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[2007-06-08T06:17:44+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Well, even if I say so myself my logs have more detail than chuck's. I don't want to start a topic war so does anyone object to listing both in there?
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[2007-06-08T06:27:14+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I find it absolutley hilarious that chuck changes the topic so it shows his logs even though he know that they are broken.
[2007-06-08T06:29:34+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Adding ability to record topic changes.
[2007-06-08T06:29:45+00:00] <freenode-connect> 
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[2007-06-08T06:29:51+00:00] <Lcarsdata> w00t 6 second restart time
[2007-06-08T06:31:02+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Removing crappy code
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[2007-06-08T06:31:33+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Crappy code removed
[2007-06-08T06:32:02+00:00] <Lcarsdata> -part
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[2007-06-08T06:32:32+00:00] <Lcarsdata> hmm
[2007-06-08T06:32:47+00:00] <Lcarsdata> 
ACTION didn't remove enough crappy code

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[2007-06-08T06:33:06+00:00] <Lcarsdata> w00t no freenode-connect version item
[2007-06-08T06:33:53+00:00] <Lcarsdata> The log bot is probably finished now, if I could get it to make all the lines line up neatly that would be cool.
[2007-06-08T06:34:05+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Anyway, I might have a go at intergrating this into lcrabot later.
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[2007-06-08T06:34:59+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Anyway, I must go to school now.
[2007-06-08T06:35:01+00:00] <Lcarsdata> goodbye
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[2007-06-08T09:36:17+00:00] <yrithinnd> :(
[2007-06-08T09:36:19+00:00] <yrithinnd> stupid replag
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[2007-06-08T11:41:52+00:00] <Filnik> Hello
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[2007-06-08T12:56:47+00:00] <stv> hemlock is going down for reboot
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[2007-06-08T13:02:46+00:00] <chuck> stv: when?
[2007-06-08T13:03:36+00:00] <_syphilis_> in 3 minutes!
[2007-06-08T13:03:37+00:00] <stv> in 3 minutes
[2007-06-08T13:03:42+00:00] <stv> right...
[2007-06-08T13:03:52+00:00] <chuck> ah ok
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[2007-06-08T13:04:25+00:00] <Tangotango> Is Hemlock going to be rebooted?
[2007-06-08T13:04:32+00:00] <_syphilis_> yes
[2007-06-08T13:04:53+00:00] <Tangotango> Ah, okay. Do you have an ETA?
[2007-06-08T13:05:03+00:00] <_syphilis_> 5 minutes
[2007-06-08T13:05:08+00:00] <Tangotango> Okay, thanks :)
[2007-06-08T13:05:14+00:00] <_syphilis_> POST is pretty slow on these systems
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[2007-06-08T13:05:25+00:00] <_syphilis_> although better than zedler with its two scsi controllers..
[2007-06-08T13:05:39+00:00] <Tangotango> Oh :/
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[2007-06-08T13:16:35+00:00] <chuck> i'm wondering why LogicBot hasn't left the channel yet :/
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[2007-06-08T13:18:34+00:00] <chuck> `greet chuck
[2007-06-08T13:18:54+00:00] <LogicBot> Hello there #wikimedia-toolserver
[2007-06-08T13:19:38+00:00] <chuck> _syphilis_: isn't the server restarting yet?
[2007-06-08T13:22:44+00:00] <Shadow42> I think it's in the process of; SSH is down.
[2007-06-08T13:23:14+00:00] <chuck> shoot
[2007-06-08T13:23:15+00:00] <chuck> `write
[2007-06-08T13:23:16+00:00] <LogicBot> Wrote 17 factoids and 139 karma data.
[2007-06-08T13:23:16+00:00] <ToolserverLog> Wrote 18 factoids.
[2007-06-08T13:26:42+00:00] <_syphilis_> linux audit fucked up again
[2007-06-08T13:26:44+00:00] <_syphilis_> hang on :)
[2007-06-08T13:28:18+00:00] <chuck> lol
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[2007-06-08T13:32:44+00:00] <_syphilis_> okay, mark requested a remote power cycle
[2007-06-08T13:33:21+00:00] <chuck> lol so is LogicBot actually going to leave now?
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[2007-06-08T13:39:45+00:00] <C-M> hey - are there some problems with ssh in the moment?
[2007-06-08T13:39:50+00:00] <chuck> yeah
[2007-06-08T13:39:52+00:00] <chuck> check the topic
[2007-06-08T13:39:56+00:00] <chuck> oh nvm
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[2007-06-08T13:40:25+00:00] <C-M> ok :)
[2007-06-08T13:40:53+00:00] <chuck> :P
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[2007-06-08T13:56:34+00:00] <_syphilis_> so while here's waiting, here's a general knowledge question to keep you busy:
[2007-06-08T13:56:43+00:00] <_syphilis_> why do light scratches that don't break the skin, bleed?
[2007-06-08T13:57:29+00:00] <Tangotango> do they bleed?
[2007-06-08T13:58:18+00:00] <_syphilis_> sure, like if you catch your arm on something sharp, it bleeds a little.  but it definitely didn't reach a vein or anything.  so is there blood in the skin, or what?
[2007-06-08T13:58:36+00:00] <C-M> _syphilis_: I think so
[2007-06-08T13:59:04+00:00] <Tangotango> Oh, hmm :/
[2007-06-08T13:59:35+00:00] <C-M> _syphilis_: otherwise the cells of the lower skin would die (the ones on top are allready dead)
[2007-06-08T13:59:36+00:00] <Mike42> well, you'd think oxygen would have to get to every cell, yeah?
[2007-06-08T14:00:05+00:00] <Mike42> so maybe it sort of seeps out? (I have no idea)
[2007-06-08T14:00:05+00:00] <_syphilis_> ah, that makes sense
[2007-06-08T14:00:49+00:00] <Tangotango> maybe you bleed from the small veins that reach everywhere? i forgot what it was called in english
[2007-06-08T14:01:05+00:00] <Mike42> capillary?
[2007-06-08T14:01:15+00:00] <C-M> Mike42: sounds good :)
[2007-06-08T14:01:17+00:00] <Tangotango> Mike42: Yup! That's it :)
[2007-06-08T14:01:22+00:00] <chuck> no, those connect veins to arteries ( i think)
[2007-06-08T14:01:29+00:00] <Tangotango> Oh :/
[2007-06-08T14:01:53+00:00] <C-M> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:3DScience_skin_section_labeled.jpg
[2007-06-08T14:02:20+00:00] <C-M> so there are small arterys and veins
[2007-06-08T14:02:56+00:00] <chuck> there we go :)
[2007-06-08T14:03:03+00:00] <C-M> and both are connected :)
[2007-06-08T14:03:55+00:00] <chuck> so there are capillaries
[2007-06-08T14:04:14+00:00] <chuck> grr when is the server going to be restarted? i need a tool on it lol
[2007-06-08T14:04:37+00:00] <C-M> 
ACTION has to restart a bot

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[2007-06-08T14:05:50+00:00] <chuck> yeah i'm wondering why mine hasn't quit yet
[2007-06-08T14:06:06+00:00] <chuck> i might as well quit it myself to prevent any unwanted side effects
[2007-06-08T14:06:08+00:00] <chuck> `leave
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[2007-06-08T14:12:50+00:00] <chuck> 
ACTION curses stv for restarting the server in the first place lol

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[2007-06-08T14:12:58+00:00] <chuck> why did it have to be restarted?
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[2007-06-08T14:25:26+00:00] <heinz> !replag
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[2007-06-08T14:26:31+00:00] <chuck> hey Lcarsdata
[2007-06-08T14:26:49+00:00] <chuck> i would show you my IRC Logger, but hemlock is having some problems lol
[2007-06-08T14:27:01+00:00] <Lcarsdata> hi
[2007-06-08T14:27:03+00:00] <Lcarsdata> chuck: Your log thing wasn't logging everything.
[2007-06-08T14:27:18+00:00] <chuck> i know
[2007-06-08T14:27:30+00:00] <chuck> do you mean like quits and joins and parts?
[2007-06-08T14:27:36+00:00] <chuck> and timestamps
[2007-06-08T14:27:39+00:00] <Lcarsdata> yeah,
[2007-06-08T14:27:45+00:00] <Lcarsdata> yeah
[2007-06-08T14:27:53+00:00] <Lcarsdata> why do you keep removing my log thing from the url?
[2007-06-08T14:27:55+00:00] <Lcarsdata> *topic
[2007-06-08T14:28:10+00:00] <chuck> because it's confusing lol it's just raw irc text
[2007-06-08T14:28:21+00:00] <Lcarsdata> not any more
[2007-06-08T14:28:22+00:00] <chuck> it can be read and it shows more info than mine
[2007-06-08T14:28:25+00:00] <chuck> oh?
[2007-06-08T14:28:41+00:00] <Lcarsdata> i updated it this morning
[2007-06-08T14:28:53+00:00] <Lcarsdata> i tracked it to a broken regex
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[2007-06-08T15:18:35+00:00] <chuck> !replag
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[2007-06-08T15:18:44+00:00] <chuck> i don't think i'm going to add anything to my logging bot
[2007-06-08T15:19:10+00:00] <Lcarsdata> why?
[2007-06-08T15:19:18+00:00] <chuck> i dunno
[2007-06-08T15:19:25+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ok
[2007-06-08T15:19:38+00:00] <chuck> i'm going to add joins, parts, and nick changes, but i might not do time stampts
[2007-06-08T15:19:41+00:00] <chuck> *stamps
[2007-06-08T15:19:55+00:00] <Lcarsdata> why?
[2007-06-08T15:20:30+00:00] <chuck> well, i will if i find out how to get time in perl
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[2007-06-08T15:26:31+00:00] <Lcarsdata> loggin?
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[2007-06-08T15:27:13+00:00] <Lcarsdata> maybe now?
[2007-06-08T15:27:49+00:00] <Lcarsdata> kl, linux has safe file locking
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[2007-06-08T15:30:04+00:00] <Lcarsdata> tsr
[2007-06-08T15:30:15+00:00] <Lcarsdata> chuck: http://tools.wikimedia.de/~robert/irclogs.html
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[2007-06-08T15:30:48+00:00] <chuck> wtf how does that work?
[2007-06-08T15:30:56+00:00] <chuck> did you just make a symlink to your log file?
[2007-06-08T15:30:59+00:00] <Lcarsdata2> no
[2007-06-08T15:31:05+00:00] <Lcarsdata2> i make my bot record two files
[2007-06-08T15:31:09+00:00] <Lcarsdata2> it is broken atm one sec
[2007-06-08T15:31:09+00:00] <chuck> ah
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[2007-06-08T15:32:33+00:00] <Lcarsdata2> chuck: it should work now
[2007-06-08T15:32:57+00:00] <Lcarsdata2> might need a bit more work, but it works
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[2007-06-08T15:33:19+00:00] <chuck> 
ACTION says hi

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[2007-06-08T15:33:36+00:00] <chuck> the actions need a bit more work lol
[2007-06-08T15:33:38+00:00] <chuck> same for me
[2007-06-08T15:35:03+00:00] <Lcarsdata> 
ACTION found the problem

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[2007-06-08T15:35:45+00:00] <Lcarsdata> should be fixed now
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[2007-06-08T15:36:11+00:00] <Lcarsdata> well, nearly
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[2007-06-08T15:36:18+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ($4 instead of $3)
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[2007-06-08T15:36:51+00:00] <Lcarsdata> \o/
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[2007-06-08T15:41:54+00:00] <chuck> testing
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[2007-06-08T15:42:27+00:00] <chuck> wow! it worked
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[2007-06-08T15:42:41+00:00] <Lcarsdata> on yours?
[2007-06-08T15:42:55+00:00] <chuck> yes, yours also
[2007-06-08T15:54:36+00:00] <Lcarsdata> chuck: why do you have a shortcut to IrcLogger.log in /mnt/aux0/archiv ?
[2007-06-08T15:55:06+00:00] <_syphilis_> symlink!  shortcut is a windows thing
[2007-06-08T15:55:18+00:00] <Lcarsdata> oh, yeah
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[2007-06-08T15:58:12+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: is there a quick way to logout and login again using a keyboard command?
[2007-06-08T15:58:24+00:00] <_syphilis_> what are you trying to achieve by doing that?
[2007-06-08T15:58:57+00:00] <Lcarsdata> reset the console
[2007-06-08T15:59:03+00:00] <_syphilis_> reset how?
[2007-06-08T15:59:21+00:00] <Lcarsdata> so it updates to my .profile
[2007-06-08T15:59:30+00:00] <_syphilis_> ". ~/.profile"
[2007-06-08T15:59:38+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ok
[2007-06-08T16:02:37+00:00] <chuck> Lcarsdata: it's a symlink because i wasn't sure if the data in /mnt/aux0/archiv/ was temporary or permanent, so i made the log file in my home directory readible and made a symlink to the file in /mnt/aux0/archiv/
[2007-06-08T16:02:53+00:00] <Lcarsdata> oh, ok
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[2007-06-08T16:10:45+00:00] <chuck> brb
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[2007-06-08T16:15:17+00:00] <Lcarsdata> bored bbl
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[2007-06-08T16:17:41+00:00] <chuck> !replag
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[2007-06-08T16:20:19+00:00] <chuck> `replag
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[2007-06-08T16:27:54+00:00] <Connel> hmmm.  Years of rants against public logging of IRC, and now http://tools.wikimedia.de/~robert/irclogs.html .  I wonder why they finally came around.
[2007-06-08T16:28:32+00:00] <_syphilis_> Connel: people who aren't insane have no problems with logging irc
[2007-06-08T16:28:34+00:00] <_syphilis_> :)
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[2007-06-08T16:28:46+00:00] <_syphilis_> that rule comes from foundation people who think irc is somehow private
[2007-06-08T16:29:53+00:00] <Connel> public logging is better, for at least three reasons I can see right off.  But still, it is a curious change.
[2007-06-08T16:30:12+00:00] <_syphilis_> we used to have tim's logs here ages ago
[2007-06-08T16:30:53+00:00] <_syphilis_> (and there's never been a rule against logging in this channel, whatever those people try to say)
[2007-06-08T16:31:04+00:00] <Connel> OTOH, it is good to have IRC logs /archived/ to /dev/null periodically.
[2007-06-08T16:33:35+00:00] <Connel> I understand that one might feel as if they can speak more candidly if there is an impression that a channel is not publicly logged.  But the "keep em honest" aspects of logging outweight those concerns, IMHO.
[2007-06-08T16:34:10+00:00] <_syphilis_> but you really can't.  i could be logging #wikipedia now and publish it tomorrow.  no-one knows i'm not.
[2007-06-08T16:34:14+00:00] <Connel> The only bad thing is that now people might actually see how many tpyos I really make.
[2007-06-08T16:34:40+00:00] <Connel> _syphilis_: I said "impression that..."   :-)
[2007-06-08T16:35:25+00:00] <Connel> Oh wow, you're logging #wikipedia?  Good show.
[2007-06-08T16:35:47+00:00] <_syphilis_> sometimes i think about it just to make a point
[2007-06-08T16:36:11+00:00] <chuck> lol me too
[2007-06-08T16:36:20+00:00] <chuck> yeah, i agree, that rule is stupid
[2007-06-08T16:37:45+00:00] <chuck> "Don't post public logs of any channels without prior permission from all persons quoted. This is a good rule of thumb, but some channels do not have this restriction - if in doubt, check."
[2007-06-08T16:37:47+00:00] <chuck> lol
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[2007-06-08T16:54:26+00:00] <erwin85> Hi, I use crontab to run some scripts and store the output in a log file. However as of today I'm receiving e-mails with the output? Does anyone know why and how I can use log files again?
[2007-06-08T16:54:31+00:00] <erwin85> My crontab file looks like:
[2007-06-08T16:54:32+00:00] <erwin85> 00 * * * * /home/erwin85/bin/runcommands >> /home/erwin85/log/runcommands/$(date +\%Y\%m\%d).log
[2007-06-08T16:54:46+00:00] <_syphilis_> was the output an error?  >> only redirects normal output, not errors
[2007-06-08T16:54:54+00:00] <_syphilis_> (add 2>&1 at the end if you want errors to go there too)
[2007-06-08T16:54:59+00:00] <Lcarsdata> have you inserted a newline at the end of the file?
[2007-06-08T16:55:03+00:00] <erwin85> No, there were no errors.
[2007-06-08T16:55:15+00:00] <erwin85> Lcarsdata, don't know. I'll check.
[2007-06-08T16:56:01+00:00] <erwin85> Nope, added a blank line. I'll see in 5 minutes if that works, but I don't remember changing my crontab lately.
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[2007-06-08T16:58:24+00:00] <_syphilis_> erwin85: i see output in ~erwin85/log/runcommands/20070608.log.  what was mailed to you?
[2007-06-08T16:58:56+00:00] <erwin85> Geen opdrachten
[2007-06-08T17:00:39+00:00] <erwin85> It appear some of the runs are indeed written to the log file. Since 7 UTC or something like that I've been receiving e-mails.
[2007-06-08T17:00:46+00:00] <_syphilis_> 7 AM?
[2007-06-08T17:01:15+00:00] <Shadow42> _syphilis_: (While we're talking about cron) Does the # column in the crontab correspond to the job ID?
[2007-06-08T17:01:23+00:00] <_syphilis_> the # column?
[2007-06-08T17:01:26+00:00] <Shadow42> Yeah
[2007-06-08T17:01:53+00:00] <Shadow42> In my crontab I see "# m h  dom mon dow   command"
[2007-06-08T17:02:06+00:00] <_syphilis_> Shadow42: the # marks a comment, it's not a column legend
[2007-06-08T17:02:13+00:00] <Shadow42> Aaah.
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[2007-06-08T17:02:29+00:00] <_syphilis_> erwin85: according to the comment in output() in wikipedia.py, it goes to stderr unless you tell it not to, and that command doesn't tell it not to
[2007-06-08T17:02:32+00:00] <Shadow42> Makes sense, dunno why I didn't see that
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[2007-06-08T17:04:45+00:00] <_syphilis_> erwin85: according to the comment in output() in wikipedia.py, it goes to stderr unless you tell it not to, and that command doesn't tell it not to
[2007-06-08T17:05:09+00:00] <erwin85> Ah I see.
[2007-06-08T17:05:17+00:00] <erwin85> I did update pywikipedia this morning.
[2007-06-08T17:05:22+00:00] <erwin85> So I guess that's new.
[2007-06-08T17:05:27+00:00] <erwin85> Thanks!
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[2007-06-08T17:40:13+00:00] <_syphilis_> after reboots, hardly any memory is being used.  it makes me happy.
[2007-06-08T17:40:16+00:00] <heinz> !replag
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[2007-06-08T17:41:03+00:00] <chuck> `uptime
[2007-06-08T17:41:06+00:00] <LogicBot> 0
[2007-06-08T17:41:08+00:00] <chuck> :(
[2007-06-08T17:41:09+00:00] <Lcarsdata> lol
[2007-06-08T17:41:17+00:00] <chuck> :P
[2007-06-08T17:41:45+00:00] <chuck> what's the command to kill all of my processes?
[2007-06-08T17:42:36+00:00] <Lcarsdata> pkill -u chuck
[2007-06-08T17:42:38+00:00] <_syphilis_> pkill -U $LOGNAME
[2007-06-08T17:42:45+00:00] <Lcarsdata> pkill -u charlie
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[2007-06-08T17:45:17+00:00] <Filnik> Hello
[2007-06-08T17:45:19+00:00] <chuck> there we go
[2007-06-08T17:45:50+00:00] <valhallasw> why is monkey patching such an hellish business?
[2007-06-08T17:46:15+00:00] <valhallasw> well, it's evil, of course
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[2007-06-08T18:04:04+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: What causes the memory to go up in use?
[2007-06-08T18:05:12+00:00] <chuck> Lcarsdata: more programs running lol
[2007-06-08T18:05:26+00:00] <Lcarsdata> i guess
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[2007-06-08T18:55:53+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Wow, the toolserver seems to be running fast today.
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[2007-06-08T19:13:21+00:00] <bayo_O> !replag please
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[2007-06-08T19:25:08+00:00] <bayo_O> hello, is any body know how find help about the database ?
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[2007-06-08T19:25:57+00:00] <bayo_O> for exemple i would like to know why the table "redirect" dont have all redirections
[2007-06-08T19:26:14+00:00] <bayo_O> *contain
[2007-06-08T19:32:28+00:00] <Bryan> somebody has experience with tunneling mysql using putty?
[2007-06-08T19:32:45+00:00] <Bryan> I've put 3306 in source port
[2007-06-08T19:32:59+00:00] <Bryan> and sql:3306 in destination
[2007-06-08T19:33:41+00:00] <valhallasw> that should work
[2007-06-08T19:33:47+00:00] <valhallasw> connect to localhost:3306 on your computer
[2007-06-08T19:34:07+00:00] <valhallasw> bayo_O: either it is an outdated table or it is a cache table
[2007-06-08T19:34:23+00:00] <valhallasw> 'select page_redirect from page' would be the correct way to check for redirects
[2007-06-08T19:35:18+00:00] <Bryan> no connection on localhost:3306
[2007-06-08T19:35:37+00:00] <chuck> did you leave the PuTTY window open?
[2007-06-08T19:35:52+00:00] <Bryan> yes
[2007-06-08T19:36:18+00:00] <Bryan> using plink:
[2007-06-08T19:36:23+00:00] <Bryan> plink -ssh -R 3306:sql:3306 bryan@hemlock.ts.wikimedia.org
[2007-06-08T19:36:25+00:00] <Bryan> works neither
[2007-06-08T19:36:42+00:00] <_syphilis_> in normal ssh, you would use -L, not -R, -R is for forwarding a remote port to the local system
[2007-06-08T19:36:46+00:00] <_syphilis_> not sure if plink is the same
[2007-06-08T19:37:19+00:00] <Bryan> oh ok
[2007-06-08T19:37:21+00:00] <Bryan> yes, that works
[2007-06-08T19:37:23+00:00] <Bryan> thanks
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[2007-06-08T19:38:43+00:00] <bayo_O> valhallasw, thanks a lot of your explain.  Problem with page_redirect is in some cases its hard to know the target name
[2007-06-08T19:38:57+00:00] <valhallasw> bayo_O: hmmm
[2007-06-08T19:39:10+00:00] <valhallasw> I'm not sure how the redirect table is generated
[2007-06-08T19:39:15+00:00] <valhallasw> it might be a toolserver cache table
[2007-06-08T19:39:27+00:00] <valhallasw> which is (was?) generated from the content
[2007-06-08T19:39:57+00:00] <bayo_O> how can we knwo it ?
[2007-06-08T19:40:16+00:00] <_syphilis_> no such table was created by us
[2007-06-08T19:40:40+00:00] <valhallasw> bayo_O: the entries that are missing; are they old or new?
[2007-06-08T19:41:22+00:00] <bayo_O> :/
[2007-06-08T19:41:28+00:00] <bayo_O> relay dont know
[2007-06-08T19:41:57+00:00] <valhallasw> I assume you've found a missing redirect?
[2007-06-08T19:42:05+00:00] <bayo_O> a page from 2006/11/2 is into the table
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[2007-06-08T19:43:40+00:00] <bayo_O> for exemple the redirection http://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pro_gamer&redirect=no is not in the table 'frwiki_p.redirect'
[2007-06-08T19:44:45+00:00] <valhallasw> 20060820...
[2007-06-08T19:44:54+00:00] <valhallasw> hm.
[2007-06-08T19:44:57+00:00] <valhallasw> weird
[2007-06-08T19:46:33+00:00] <bayo_O> i ask this onlt to know, its not a big *important* question :)
[2007-06-08T19:46:45+00:00] <bayo_O> only
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[2007-06-09T06:10:40+00:00] <Connel> While I go to read up on the latest rules, could someone explain the rationale for such a rule?
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[2007-06-09T06:57:43+00:00] <TheLetterE> Does anyone know when the next update of Toolserver/New accounts
[2007-06-09T07:01:03+00:00] <TheLetterE> will happen?
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[2007-06-09T09:20:41+00:00] <valhallasw> Connel: er?
[2007-06-09T09:21:06+00:00] <valhallasw> sounds like a really bad joke tbh
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[2007-06-09T10:09:28+00:00] <Filnik> Hello
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[2007-06-09T10:34:15+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Connel: The reason you are not permitted to have such a page is because it can cause issues (websites complaining to the toolservers internet privider about it querying other websites)
[2007-06-09T10:35:05+00:00] <TheLetterE> Lcarsdata: Do you know when the next toolserv new accounts update will be? DaB. said it would be last weekend, but it never happened...
[2007-06-09T10:35:23+00:00] <Lcarsdata> TheLetterE: Apparently this weekend AFAIK.
[2007-06-09T10:37:29+00:00] <TheLetterE> Alright... I've been waiting for ages as I have two bots waiting for the toolserv account request to either succeed or be declined...
[2007-06-09T10:38:13+00:00] <Lcarsdata> They are done about once a month however this month was delayed because of account expiration that had to be sorted out.
[2007-06-09T10:38:34+00:00] <TheLetterE> Alright thanks for clearing that up.
[2007-06-09T10:54:16+00:00] <valhallasw> oh, wait, I misread Connel
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[2007-06-09T10:54:58+00:00] <valhallasw> I read your message as 'I am not allowed to have a page on the toolserver because of the detection of open proxies'
[2007-06-09T10:55:02+00:00] <valhallasw> so ignore me, again ;)
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[2007-06-09T11:48:26+00:00] <Lcarsdata> On the toolserver is Sunday day 0 or 7 in crontab?
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[2007-06-09T12:18:51+00:00] <valhallasw> there is no way to check from the database whether a certain section exists or not, right?
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[2007-06-09T12:30:00+00:00] <ST47> Why is toolserv saying Your account will expire on Friday, 07 December 2007.
[2007-06-09T12:30:03+00:00] <ST47> ?
[2007-06-09T12:30:15+00:00] <ST47> That's a long time from now :(
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[2007-06-09T12:33:50+00:00] <valhallasw> ST47: becaust it will expire then ;)
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[2007-06-09T12:37:11+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ST47: Accounts are scheduled to expire every six months.
[2007-06-09T12:37:17+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Read [[Toolserver]]
[2007-06-09T12:37:17+00:00] <unilinky> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Toolserver?redirect=no
[2007-06-09T12:37:50+00:00] <ST47> yeah, I know that, but last time it didn't bug me about it until about a month beforehand
[2007-06-09T12:38:14+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: Recently enabled\added the thing which does that.
[2007-06-09T12:38:24+00:00] <Lcarsdata> She was intending to for quite a while AFAIK.
[2007-06-09T12:39:47+00:00] <valhallasw> hum.
[2007-06-09T12:39:54+00:00] <valhallasw> nlwiki_p.langlinks seems kinda.. fooked
[2007-06-09T12:40:05+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ST47: I would hardly say that it 'bugs' you either. The message on login is now much shorter than it used to be anyway.
[2007-06-09T12:40:14+00:00] <Lcarsdata> valhallasw: I will have a look.
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[2007-06-09T12:40:23+00:00] <valhallasw> no ll_title entries it seems
[2007-06-09T12:40:35+00:00] <valhallasw> or at least
[2007-06-09T12:40:39+00:00] <valhallasw> lots are missing :|
[2007-06-09T12:41:45+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I have looked.
[2007-06-09T12:41:49+00:00] <Lcarsdata> There are some ll_title entires.
[2007-06-09T12:41:55+00:00] <valhallasw> yes
[2007-06-09T12:42:10+00:00] <heinz> !replag
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[2007-06-09T12:49:34+00:00] <valhallasw> great
[2007-06-09T12:49:43+00:00] <valhallasw> why does a sum function return NULL >_<
[2007-06-09T12:50:19+00:00] <Lcarsdata> valhallasw: which programming language?
[2007-06-09T12:50:51+00:00] <valhallasw> sql
[2007-06-09T12:51:19+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ok
[2007-06-09T12:51:39+00:00] <valhallasw> it sums over zero entries
[2007-06-09T12:51:44+00:00] <valhallasw> and thus returns null
[2007-06-09T12:52:30+00:00] <_syphilis_> Connel: some sites see port scanning, proxy testing, etc. as malicious activity.  even though it's not, we don't want the hassle of dealing with it.
[2007-06-09T12:57:59+00:00] <valhallasw> geez. My entry for the evil sql haxor contest:
[2007-06-09T12:58:05+00:00] <valhallasw> select sum(length(ll_lang)+length(ll_title)+5) as sum from langlinks right join page on ll_from=page_id where page_title='Grebbelinie' and page_namespace='0' group by ll_from;
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[2007-06-09T13:03:30+00:00] <valhallasw> oh wait, it's getting worse
[2007-06-09T13:03:33+00:00] <valhallasw> select coalesce(sum(length(ll_lang)+length(ll_title)+5),0) as sum from langlinks right join page on ll_from=page_id where page_title='Grebbelinie' and page_namespace='0' group by ll_from;
[2007-06-09T13:03:37+00:00] <valhallasw> :')
[2007-06-09T13:04:23+00:00] <valhallasw> now I wonder...
[2007-06-09T13:04:56+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: Would you happen to know why when I visit google.com on the toolserver (via lynx) i get redirected to google.nl (even when I use the link to google.com on google.nll)
[2007-06-09T13:05:12+00:00] <_syphilis_> because google redirects you to the local site
[2007-06-09T13:05:15+00:00] <_syphilis_> use google.com/ncr
[2007-06-09T13:05:20+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ok, thanks
[2007-06-09T13:05:37+00:00] <_syphilis_> (same reason it takes you to google.co.uk in the uk)
[2007-06-09T13:05:51+00:00] <valhallasw> google does that on IP basis and not on language header basis?
[2007-06-09T13:06:15+00:00] <_syphilis_> yes
[2007-06-09T13:06:25+00:00] <valhallasw> ah, k
[2007-06-09T13:06:44+00:00] <Lcarsdata> eww, google looks ugly in lynx
[2007-06-09T13:06:59+00:00] <_syphilis_> use links, it has more advanced rendering
[2007-06-09T13:07:13+00:00] <Lcarsdata> kl
[2007-06-09T13:08:56+00:00] <Lcarsdata> yeah, it looks much better
[2007-06-09T13:09:41+00:00] <Lcarsdata> It is amazing how much stuff people manage to make work ont he command line.
[2007-06-09T13:09:54+00:00] <Lcarsdata> an irc client and a web browser
[2007-06-09T13:10:26+00:00] <Lcarsdata> if all this came preinstalled and wi-fi just worked (tm) on linux I would install and use linux from the command line
[2007-06-09T13:11:07+00:00] <_syphilis_> i find it more amazing that anyone thinks a GUI IRC client is a good idea :)
[2007-06-09T13:11:22+00:00] <Lcarsdata> :D
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[2007-06-09T13:14:34+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Hmm, less is so much better than more for some reason
[2007-06-09T13:14:41+00:00] <Lcarsdata> and my irc logger is broken
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[2007-06-09T13:17:07+00:00] <Lcarsdata> should be fixed now
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[2007-06-09T13:17:46+00:00] <Lcarsdata> that is better
[2007-06-09T13:18:34+00:00] <Lcarsdata> this is frustrating, my weblinkchecker for the commons has taken over an hour and I want to know how long it takes so I can calculate how long the en.wp one will take
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[2007-06-09T14:03:23+00:00] <Lcarsdata> hmm,
[2007-06-09T14:03:32+00:00] <Lcarsdata> this has taken nearly two hours
[2007-06-09T14:05:00+00:00] <Lcarsdata> The English Wikipedia is 22.6 times bigger than the Wikimedia Commons so therefore the Wikipedia check should take about 23 times longer.
[2007-06-09T14:05:12+00:00] <Lcarsdata> However the English Wikipedia has more external links I would guess.
[2007-06-09T14:05:30+00:00] <Lcarsdata> so it would take about three days
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[2007-06-09T14:08:35+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Martinp23: Sorry to bug you, but have you run your bot yet?
[2007-06-09T14:15:08+00:00] <Martinp23> Lcarsdata: /me looks now
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[2007-06-09T14:24:23+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Argh, all my screen sessions are jumbled.
[2007-06-09T14:24:39+00:00] <Lcarsdata>  I will brb
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[2007-06-09T14:29:30+00:00] <valhallasw> I do have more than one screen session locally
[2007-06-09T14:29:36+00:00] <valhallasw> one for chat, one for downloading, etc
[2007-06-09T14:30:20+00:00] <valhallasw> my pywikipedia-toolserver-patch is getting better and better :)
[2007-06-09T14:30:39+00:00] <Lcarsdata> eww
[2007-06-09T14:30:50+00:00] <valhallasw> (uses database queries for as much as possible)
[2007-06-09T14:30:54+00:00] <valhallasw> whats 'eww' about that?
[2007-06-09T14:31:01+00:00] <Lcarsdata> no about screen
[2007-06-09T14:31:05+00:00] <valhallasw> ah
[2007-06-09T14:31:31+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: I ^AC-d out of the two php sessions (for the irc bots) but I can only get back into irssi (the one I ac-d first)
[2007-06-09T14:32:03+00:00] <Lcarsdata> it is really odd
[2007-06-09T14:32:07+00:00] <valhallasw> ^A0 ^A1 ^A2 etc
[2007-06-09T14:32:24+00:00] <Lcarsdata> that doesn't work
[2007-06-09T14:32:26+00:00] <valhallasw> :o
[2007-06-09T14:32:31+00:00] <valhallasw> what does it do then?
[2007-06-09T14:32:44+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ^A0 etc. do nothing
[2007-06-09T14:32:49+00:00] <valhallasw> it should popup a list of windows when an illegal number is inputted
[2007-06-09T14:32:52+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ^A gets me back into irssi
[2007-06-09T14:32:52+00:00] <valhallasw> :|
[2007-06-09T14:32:59+00:00] <valhallasw> er.
[2007-06-09T14:33:15+00:00] <valhallasw> sounds like you've got one char in the command buffer or something
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[2007-06-09T14:34:14+00:00] <lcarsdata2> I just crasjed screen
[2007-06-09T14:35:02+00:00] <valhallasw> :O
[2007-06-09T14:35:38+00:00] <lcarsdata2> let me kill everything
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[2007-06-09T14:36:58+00:00] <valhallasw> now this is one of the functions that is going to rock on a database
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[2007-06-09T14:37:02+00:00] <valhallasw> Page.getReferences
[2007-06-09T14:37:08+00:00] <Lcarsdata> So, everything killed - I will try again
[2007-06-09T14:37:21+00:00] <valhallasw> hehe
[2007-06-09T14:38:32+00:00] <Lcarsdata> actually
[2007-06-09T14:38:36+00:00] <Lcarsdata> it kinda works
[2007-06-09T14:39:34+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: You are going shopping?
[2007-06-09T14:40:21+00:00] <_syphilis_> Lcarsdata: http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002892.html
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[2007-06-09T14:41:10+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ok...
[2007-06-09T14:41:34+00:00] <Lcarsdata> tapping ^A twice seems to switch to the last screen thing you had open
[2007-06-09T14:41:47+00:00] <_syphilis_> yes
[2007-06-09T14:42:20+00:00] <Lcarsdata> but...
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[2007-06-09T14:52:59+00:00] <valhallasw> heh.
[2007-06-09T14:56:11+00:00] <valhallasw> lolol
[2007-06-09T14:59:37+00:00] <valhallasw> Speciaal:VerwijzingenNaarHier
[2007-06-09T14:59:38+00:00] <valhallasw> :r
[2007-06-09T14:59:55+00:00] <valhallasw> that is just the worst translation ever
[2007-06-09T15:00:12+00:00] <_syphilis_> "Links to here"?
[2007-06-09T15:00:19+00:00] <valhallasw> yes
[2007-06-09T15:00:44+00:00] <valhallasw> how on earth is anyone going to remember that
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[2007-06-09T15:43:38+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I have had time to think about my predicement with screen.
[2007-06-09T15:43:50+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I think it might be related to my SSH client.
[2007-06-09T15:44:23+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I will look at the Wikipedia comparison article regarding them.
[2007-06-09T15:44:35+00:00] <_syphilis_> putty works fine with screen
[2007-06-09T15:44:43+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Hmm,
[2007-06-09T15:45:01+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I still don't understand why ^A0 ^A1 etc. don't work
[2007-06-09T15:45:03+00:00] <Lcarsdata> then.
[2007-06-09T15:45:47+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ^A ^A works fine for switching between two windows, but I will have at least three windows running when I use the toolserver.
[2007-06-09T15:45:47+00:00] <_syphilis_> run screen.  type "echo foo".  type ^A c.  type "echo bar".  type ^A 0
[2007-06-09T15:46:01+00:00] <Lcarsdata> o
[2007-06-09T15:46:02+00:00] <Lcarsdata> k
[2007-06-09T15:46:56+00:00] <Lcarsdata> That doesn't work.
[2007-06-09T15:47:38+00:00] <_syphilis_> what happens?
[2007-06-09T15:47:42+00:00] <Lcarsdata> nothing
[2007-06-09T15:47:55+00:00] <_syphilis_> you are typing ^A 0, not ^A ^0, right?
[2007-06-09T15:48:10+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I am holding the ctrl a and 0 keys
[2007-06-09T15:48:15+00:00] <_syphilis_> no
[2007-06-09T15:48:30+00:00] <_syphilis_> hold ctrl, press A, release both keys, press 0
[2007-06-09T15:48:31+00:00] <Lcarsdata> is that incorrect?
[2007-06-09T15:48:34+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ahh
[2007-06-09T15:48:35+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I see
[2007-06-09T15:48:49+00:00] <Lcarsdata> voilla - it works!
[2007-06-09T15:48:57+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: You are the best sysadmin ever. Thanks.
[2007-06-09T15:49:02+00:00] <Lcarsdata> brb
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[2007-06-09T15:51:17+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Wow, this actually works!
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[2007-06-09T15:52:46+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I can only open 10 of these thing right?
[2007-06-09T15:53:34+00:00] <_syphilis_> you can open more but you have to switch by typing ^A '
[2007-06-09T15:53:40+00:00] <_syphilis_> it'll ask you for a window number
[2007-06-09T15:53:49+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I see.
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[2007-06-09T15:54:04+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Cool.
[2007-06-09T15:56:09+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Hmm, Putty just hung o.O
[2007-06-09T15:57:53+00:00] <valhallasw> :O
[2007-06-09T15:58:00+00:00] <valhallasw> sounds like a hanging ^A
[2007-06-09T15:58:01+00:00] <valhallasw> or something
[2007-06-09T15:58:07+00:00] <Lcarsdata> yeah
[2007-06-09T16:00:51+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I think it was, me idiot.
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[2007-06-09T16:08:41+00:00] <_syphilis_> welcome to the vast ranks of unix screen users
[2007-06-09T16:08:41+00:00] <_syphilis_> :)
[2007-06-09T16:08:54+00:00] <Lcarsdata> :D
[2007-06-09T16:09:07+00:00] <Lcarsdata> that has to e double deja vu
[2007-06-09T16:09:46+00:00] <Lcarsdata> seriously though, I was just about to type a message (then you sent one) and I had just done a /channel and saw Bryan wasn't here then he joined.
[2007-06-09T16:10:05+00:00] <Bryan> huh, what?
[2007-06-09T16:10:12+00:00] <Lcarsdata> dw
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[2007-06-09T16:11:35+00:00] <Bryan> derivative work?
[2007-06-09T16:13:54+00:00] <Lcarsdata> don't worry
[2007-06-09T16:21:37+00:00] <valhallasw> hum
[2007-06-09T16:21:53+00:00] <valhallasw> Bryan: what is the mysql module in pywikipedia for?
[2007-06-09T16:22:10+00:00] <Bryan> it's for automatic reconnection on connection loss
[2007-06-09T16:22:16+00:00] <valhallasw> mysql_autoconnection.py
[2007-06-09T16:22:42+00:00] <Bryan> if a query fails because mysql died, it will retry until mysql is back
[2007-06-09T16:22:51+00:00] <valhallasw> okay
[2007-06-09T16:22:54+00:00] <Bryan> up until a certain limit
[2007-06-09T16:22:59+00:00] <valhallasw> why is it in pywikipedia would be the right question :)
[2007-06-09T16:23:44+00:00] <Bryan> because it is a dependency for the updated checkusage.py i'm about to checkin :)
[2007-06-09T16:23:49+00:00] <valhallasw> ah :)
[2007-06-09T16:24:09+00:00] <valhallasw> I already was afraid I was doing double work with my mysql version of wikipedia.py
[2007-06-09T16:24:37+00:00] <valhallasw> the good news is it doesn't copy wikipedia.py, the bad news is it's a monkey patch
[2007-06-09T16:24:57+00:00] <valhallasw> but that's the only way I can find to change eg. functions in wikipedia.Page without changing wikipedia.py itself
[2007-06-09T16:25:05+00:00] <valhallasw> (because ImagePage etc inherit Page)
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[2007-06-09T16:41:30+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I have come to the conclusion that now I can actually use it successfully Linux is better than Windows.
[2007-06-09T16:42:01+00:00] <Lcarsdata> If only the web browser had a GUI and you could play Windows games on it.
[2007-06-09T16:43:05+00:00] <Bryan> cedega
[2007-06-09T16:43:20+00:00] <Bryan> and there are a lot of gui browsers on linux
[2007-06-09T16:46:30+00:00] <Lcarsdata> hmm
[2007-06-09T16:46:33+00:00] <Lcarsdata> let me try
[2007-06-09T16:47:14+00:00] <Lcarsdata> oh, the toolserver doesn't have that
[2007-06-09T16:47:29+00:00] <Bryan> of course not, toolserver doesn't have X ;)
[2007-06-09T16:47:36+00:00] <Lcarsdata> oh
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[2007-06-09T17:10:09+00:00] <Dodek> i suppose he means X Window System.
[2007-06-09T17:10:09+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I see.
[2007-06-09T17:10:09+00:00] <Bryan> in *nix, the window system is generally not baked into the kernel
[2007-06-09T17:10:09+00:00] <Lcarsdata> :P
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[2007-06-09T17:10:09+00:00] <_syphilis_> aalib
[2007-06-09T17:10:09+00:00] <_syphilis_> converts them to ascii art :)
[2007-06-09T17:10:09+00:00] <Lcarsdata> :p
[2007-06-09T17:10:09+00:00] <valhallasw> actually it's possible to play openttd from a console
[2007-06-09T17:10:09+00:00] <valhallasw> SDL has a console output option
[2007-06-09T17:10:09+00:00] <valhallasw> to 'play'.
[2007-06-09T17:10:09+00:00] <valhallasw> 80x25 resolution just doesn't work too well
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[2007-06-09T17:10:09+00:00] <_syphilis_> drat, kernel is compiled without quotas
[2007-06-09T17:12:05+00:00] <Lcarsdata> quotas?
[2007-06-09T17:14:35+00:00] <_syphilis_> disk quotas
[2007-06-09T17:17:37+00:00] <valhallasw> why isn't this working... *sigh*
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[2007-06-09T17:24:24+00:00] <_syphilis_> kernel kills processes until there's enough
[2007-06-09T17:29:25+00:00] <Lcarsdata> detaching
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[2007-06-09T17:52:26+00:00] <Agony|> can someone tell is personal database size calculated in total quota?
[2007-06-09T17:52:57+00:00] <_syphilis_> no
[2007-06-09T17:53:28+00:00] <Agony|> ok, thx
[2007-06-09T18:00:14+00:00] <siebrand> Agony|: thinking about migrating to binary db storage? ;0
[2007-06-09T18:01:23+00:00] <valhallasw> someone here who can help me with some UTF troubles?
[2007-06-09T18:02:06+00:00] <heinz> !replag
[2007-06-09T18:02:08+00:00] <replagbot> heinz: s2: 0d 0h 25m 19s (1519s) [+1516s in 19197s]; s3: 1d 18h 52m 28s (154348s) [+5480s in 19197s]; s1: 129d 21h 54m 31s (11224471s) [+19177s in 19197s]
[2007-06-09T18:02:28+00:00] <_syphilis_> whats the question
[2007-06-09T18:02:42+00:00] <valhallasw> 'Doorverwijscaf\xc3\x83\xc2\xa9' is the raw string I got from the database (in python)
[2007-06-09T18:02:56+00:00] <valhallasw> but python fails to decode it to a correct unicode string
[2007-06-09T18:03:05+00:00] <_syphilis_> hm, dunno python
[2007-06-09T18:03:07+00:00] <valhallasw> it's a page_title
[2007-06-09T18:03:15+00:00] <valhallasw> should be utf-8, right?
[2007-06-09T18:04:02+00:00] <_syphilis_> yes, but the database thinks its latin-1
[2007-06-09T18:04:50+00:00] <valhallasw> yes
[2007-06-09T18:06:04+00:00] <valhallasw> when I decode it as utf-8, I get a string that looks like a windows-1232-decode of an utf string
[2007-06-09T18:06:10+00:00] <valhallasw> using http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/cgi/unicode-decoder/utf8-decoder
[2007-06-09T18:06:41+00:00] <_syphilis_> what i usually do in java is get the raw bytes of the string and create a new string using utf-8 encoding
[2007-06-09T18:06:59+00:00] <valhallasw> hmmm
[2007-06-09T18:07:07+00:00] <_syphilis_> (new String(s.getBytes("ISO-8859-1"), "UTF-8"))
[2007-06-09T18:09:52+00:00] <pgk> For python it'd be something like    unicodestring = unicode(rawstring,'UTF-8')
[2007-06-09T18:09:52+00:00] <valhallasw> hum.
[2007-06-09T18:10:07+00:00] <valhallasw> it should be 'rawstring'.decode('utf-8')
[2007-06-09T18:10:16+00:00] <valhallasw> >>> b.decode('utf-8')
[2007-06-09T18:10:17+00:00] <valhallasw> u'Doorverwijscaf\xc3\xa9'
[2007-06-09T18:10:38+00:00] <pgk> That works too
[2007-06-09T18:10:54+00:00] <valhallasw> but that is not exactly an unicode-decoded string
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[2007-06-09T18:12:18+00:00] <_syphilis_> are you sure that's the real string?
[2007-06-09T18:12:23+00:00] <_syphilis_> it looks like it's been encoded twice
[2007-06-09T18:13:20+00:00] <valhallasw> yeah
[2007-06-09T18:13:43+00:00] <_syphilis_> should be Doorverwijscafé
[2007-06-09T18:14:25+00:00] <_syphilis_> Doorverwijscaf\xc3\xa9
[2007-06-09T18:14:43+00:00] <valhallasw> e with forward accent
[2007-06-09T18:14:50+00:00] <_syphilis_> yes
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[2007-06-09T18:15:24+00:00] <valhallasw> the utf-8 decoded string looks like the windows-1232 representation of the correct string
[2007-06-09T18:15:57+00:00] <_syphilis_> i suspect python is getting the utf-8 bytes, treating it as latin-1 and creating the unicode string Doorverwijscafé
[2007-06-09T18:16:03+00:00] <_syphilis_> (which is what it should be, according to the db)
[2007-06-09T18:18:15+00:00] <valhallasw> I'll try #python
[2007-06-09T18:18:37+00:00] <valhallasw> I'm having some trouble with unicode
[2007-06-09T18:18:38+00:00] <valhallasw> er
[2007-06-09T18:18:39+00:00] <valhallasw> wait
[2007-06-09T18:18:49+00:00] <valhallasw> I may have the problem
[2007-06-09T18:19:24+00:00] <valhallasw> check
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[2007-06-09T18:20:18+00:00] <valhallasw> for some reason I had a kwargs['charset'] = 'utf8' in my database layer
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[2007-06-09T18:20:34+00:00] <valhallasw> looks better now :_
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[2007-06-09T18:31:03+00:00] <Lcarsdata> the colors vim uses for syntax highlighting are groovy
[2007-06-09T18:34:26+00:00] <Bryan> does it work with """?
[2007-06-09T18:34:32+00:00] <Bryan> because nano doesn't
[2007-06-09T18:35:32+00:00] <Lcarsdata> hat do you mean?
[2007-06-09T18:35:36+00:00] <Lcarsdata> *what
[2007-06-09T18:35:37+00:00] <valhallasw> Bryan: yes
[2007-06-09T18:35:50+00:00] <valhallasw> all my SQL queries in python are multi-line ;)
[2007-06-09T18:36:03+00:00] <Bryan> great
[2007-06-09T18:36:14+00:00] <Bryan> now only have to learn :i:qw! and stuff
[2007-06-09T18:36:42+00:00] <valhallasw> :w = write, :q = quit, :q! = quit, nosave, :wq = save,quit
[2007-06-09T18:36:45+00:00] <valhallasw> :o = open
[2007-06-09T18:36:58+00:00] <valhallasw> those are the most important ;)
[2007-06-09T18:37:27+00:00] <Bryan> why should you save, if you don't know how to edit ;)
[2007-06-09T18:37:39+00:00] <valhallasw> oh
[2007-06-09T18:37:46+00:00] <valhallasw> and insert and escape :D
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[2007-06-09T18:43:19+00:00] <Lcarsdata> valhallasw: Does :w save?
[2007-06-09T18:43:26+00:00] <valhallasw> yes
[2007-06-09T18:43:26+00:00] <valhallasw> write
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[2007-06-09T18:43:42+00:00] <Lcarsdata> thanks
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[2007-06-09T18:55:02+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I want to be able to add and delete stuff from my subversion repo using my toolserver account. How can I do this without uplaoding my private key to the toolserver?
[2007-06-09T18:55:16+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Or is that actually dangerous?
[2007-06-09T18:55:27+00:00] <Lcarsdata> i.e. Is it safe to upload my key to the toolserver?
[2007-06-09T18:56:21+00:00] <valhallasw> in theory, you can forward ssh keys
[2007-06-09T18:56:35+00:00] <Lcarsdata> theory that is
[2007-06-09T18:56:39+00:00] <valhallasw> or you could create a new key for on the toolserver
[2007-06-09T18:56:47+00:00] <valhallasw> theory as in I have never tried
[2007-06-09T18:56:51+00:00] <Lcarsdata> true
[2007-06-09T18:57:01+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I will do that.
[2007-06-09T18:57:05+00:00] <valhallasw> k
[2007-06-09T18:57:21+00:00] <Lcarsdata> The fact of the matter is that no-one can do anything without the password to my key anyway.
[2007-06-09T18:58:48+00:00] <Bryan> Lcarsdata: you don't need to use ssh...
[2007-06-09T18:58:51+00:00] <Bryan> use file://
[2007-06-09T18:59:13+00:00] <_syphilis_> lcars: if you type your passphrase on hemlock, anyone with root could find it
[2007-06-09T18:59:13+00:00] <Lcarsdata> cool
[2007-06-09T18:59:20+00:00] <Bryan> (svn is somewhat weird... takes some time to understand it)
[2007-06-09T18:59:36+00:00] <valhallasw> 'somewhat' is somewhat an understatement ;)
[2007-06-09T18:59:45+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: Are the people with root not trusted to not disclose any information.
[2007-06-09T19:00:17+00:00] <valhallasw> with passwords, avoid giving people even the possibility of getting it
[2007-06-09T19:00:58+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Bryan: So is this meant to work? svn checkout file://robert@home/robert/subversion svnout
[2007-06-09T19:01:16+00:00] <Bryan> without the username
[2007-06-09T19:01:21+00:00] <Bryan> file:///home, etc
[2007-06-09T19:01:24+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ...
[2007-06-09T19:01:41+00:00] <Lcarsdata> svn: Unable to open an ra_local session to URL
[2007-06-09T19:01:42+00:00] <Lcarsdata> svn: Local URL 'file://home/robert/subversion' contains unsupported hostname
[2007-06-09T19:01:53+00:00] <Lcarsdata> o.o
[2007-06-09T19:01:54+00:00] <Bryan> the username in the svn+ssh://username@hem[...] is only used for ssh
[2007-06-09T19:02:00+00:00] <Bryan> Lcarsdata: tripple /
[2007-06-09T19:02:16+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ok
[2007-06-09T19:02:34+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Bryan: neat!
[2007-06-09T19:07:44+00:00] <valhallasw> yeah
[2007-06-09T19:08:02+00:00] <valhallasw> and svn+ssh actually starts a new svn server that tunnels all data as text through the ssh terminal
[2007-06-09T19:16:35+00:00] <Lcarsdata> lol @ beepmode
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[2007-06-09T19:27:46+00:00] <_syphilis_> Lcarsdata: yes, but what if the system is compromised?
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[2007-06-09T20:58:14+00:00] <LeonWP> _syphilis_, what quota will I get?
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[2007-06-09T20:59:42+00:00] <_syphilis_> LeonWP: is 1GB reasonable?
[2007-06-09T21:00:13+00:00] <LeonWP> yes
[2007-06-09T21:00:16+00:00] <LeonWP> it's ok
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[2007-06-09T21:51:59+00:00] <_syphilis_> akl: hello
[2007-06-09T21:52:09+00:00] <_syphilis_> akl: would you please change tools.wikimedia.de to be a cname for hemlock.ts.wikimedia.org?
[2007-06-09T21:53:19+00:00] <akl> hiho
[2007-06-09T21:53:45+00:00] <Misza13> yes, plz - /me lazy - /me not want update .ssh/config ;)
[2007-06-09T21:54:03+00:00] <_syphilis_> Misza13: the old name will still work (forever)
[2007-06-09T21:54:33+00:00] <akl> _syphilis_: hemlock.ts.wikimedia.org instead of hemlock.knams.wikimedia.org ?
[2007-06-09T21:54:37+00:00] <Misza13> oh, ok - but I use tools.wikimedia.de everywhere :)
[2007-06-09T21:54:43+00:00] <_syphilis_> akl: yes
[2007-06-09T21:55:00+00:00] <akl> _syphilis_: same for pgcount.wikimedia.de and bibliography.wikimedia.de ?
[2007-06-09T21:55:06+00:00] <_syphilis_> akl: yep
[2007-06-09T21:55:55+00:00] <akl> _syphilis_: done (all three)
[2007-06-09T21:56:01+00:00] <_syphilis_> thanks
[2007-06-09T22:02:09+00:00] <_syphilis_> akl: btw, we got a delivery date on the switch (see topic).  mark was at the colo last week and confirmed the server and array are there, they've both been racked
[2007-06-09T22:02:43+00:00] <_syphilis_> i wonder, if we'd waited until now to buy it, would we have gotten a better price? :)
[2007-06-09T22:03:30+00:00] <TheLetterE> Hmm, whats happening on en-wp? "Due to high database server lag, changes newer than 155 seconds might not be shown in this list.
[2007-06-09T22:04:11+00:00] <TheLetterE> 200 secs now ;\
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[2007-06-09T22:04:35+00:00] <akl> _syphilis_: thanks. great!
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[2007-06-10T09:19:34+00:00] <Filnik> Hello
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[2007-06-10T11:03:47+00:00] <_syphilis_> hmm, i meant to reboot again last night but i fell asleep
[2007-06-10T11:05:17+00:00] <_syphilis_> so it'll have to be now, sorry
[2007-06-10T11:06:34+00:00] <Filnik> _syphilis_: why i have thise message? The system is going DOWN for reboot in 9 minutes!
[2007-06-10T11:06:43+00:00] <Filnik> (on toolserver)
[2007-06-10T11:07:01+00:00] <_syphilis_> Filnik: because it is
[2007-06-10T11:07:02+00:00] <_syphilis_> :)
[2007-06-10T11:07:05+00:00] <_syphilis_> it'll be back shortly
[2007-06-10T11:07:23+00:00] <Filnik> _syphilis_: ah.... but, i'll lost all my processes open?
[2007-06-10T11:08:34+00:00] <_syphilis_> Filnik: yes
[2007-06-10T11:08:42+00:00] <Filnik> :(
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[2007-06-10T11:09:41+00:00] <valhallasw> reboot? o noes!
[2007-06-10T11:09:57+00:00] <Filnik> valhallasw: indeed...
[2007-06-10T11:10:06+00:00] <Filnik> :(
[2007-06-10T11:11:11+00:00] <valhallasw> why doesn't my stupid query thing work :|
[2007-06-10T11:11:43+00:00] <_syphilis_> cuz its stupid huhu
[2007-06-10T11:11:50+00:00] <_syphilis_> ;-)
[2007-06-10T11:11:50+00:00] <valhallasw> ;)
[2007-06-10T11:11:57+00:00] <valhallasw> PyDoc runs mysqldb
[2007-06-10T11:12:19+00:00] <valhallasw> and for some reason it's trying to connect to hemlock as sql server :|
[2007-06-10T11:12:24+00:00] <erwin85> _syphilis_, would I get an e-mail if such a broadcast/reboot were made during a crontab job which sends it's output to a log file?
[2007-06-10T11:12:33+00:00] <_syphilis_> erwin85: no
[2007-06-10T11:12:59+00:00] <valhallasw> as long as it does not scream to /dev/stderr
[2007-06-10T11:13:00+00:00] <erwin85> So my cron tab would simply fail without me knowing? Hmm.. got to check the edits/logs then.
[2007-06-10T11:13:20+00:00] <_syphilis_> erwin85: you could log in and notice that the `uptime` is smaller
[2007-06-10T11:13:25+00:00] <_syphilis_> if you suspect something went wrong
[2007-06-10T11:13:28+00:00] <erwin85> Good point
[2007-06-10T11:13:29+00:00] <valhallasw> *grin*
[2007-06-10T11:14:15+00:00] <valhallasw> geeeeeeez
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[2007-06-10T14:40:48+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Okay.
[2007-06-10T14:40:59+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Explains why all my processes died.
[2007-06-10T14:41:19+00:00] <_syphilis_> someone was working on linux kernel reloading without a reboot
[2007-06-10T14:41:26+00:00] <_syphilis_> dunno how that's going
[2007-06-10T14:45:50+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: Has a disk quota been decided on?
[2007-06-10T14:46:01+00:00] <_syphilis_> read the mailing list
[2007-06-10T14:46:30+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Okay, I am going through my mail at the moment - thanks.
[2007-06-10T14:47:51+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I see, fair enough.
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[2007-06-10T15:00:47+00:00] <Bjelleklang> _syphilis_: do you have a list of expired accounts? I replied to dab as per the mailing list, but now I can't access the toolserver for some reason
[2007-06-10T15:01:03+00:00] <Bjelleklang> and the public_html is also down
[2007-06-10T15:15:06+00:00] <_syphilis_> Bjelleklang: your account was expired.  shall i unexpire it?
[2007-06-10T15:15:34+00:00] <Bjelleklang> yes please :)
[2007-06-10T15:16:33+00:00] <_syphilis_> okay, done.  you'll need to reset permissions on your public_html.  (755 or so)
[2007-06-10T15:17:17+00:00] <Bjelleklang> ok, thanks for the help :)
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[2007-06-10T15:38:04+00:00] <_syphilis_> Connel: are you here?
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[2007-06-10T15:47:30+00:00] <_syphilis_> WarX: you're over 256M of disk space and i didn't get a reply to the mail i sent you.  will you delete some files or do you want a larger quota?
[2007-06-10T15:47:44+00:00] <WarX> I will move
[2007-06-10T15:47:50+00:00] <WarX> in next few minutes
[2007-06-10T15:47:55+00:00] <WarX> my data to another machine
[2007-06-10T15:48:04+00:00] <_syphilis_> okay.
[2007-06-10T15:48:17+00:00] <_syphilis_> (you can leave it there if you want, no problem.  but you need to do one or the other)
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[2007-06-10T15:50:03+00:00] <_Duesentrieb_> we have quotas now?
[2007-06-10T15:50:20+00:00] <_syphilis_> again, yes
[2007-06-10T15:50:26+00:00] <_syphilis_> you need to reply to that mail too :)
[2007-06-10T15:50:33+00:00] <_syphilis_> (i guess you were a bit busy before)
[2007-06-10T15:50:40+00:00] <_Duesentrieb_> i was
[2007-06-10T15:50:52+00:00] <_Duesentrieb_> i read the mail and deleted about 30% auf that stuff.
[2007-06-10T15:51:22+00:00] <_Duesentrieb_> i must have missed the "reply" bit :)
[2007-06-10T15:51:53+00:00] <_Duesentrieb_> most space is used by two copies of mediawiki (different revisions) and my rrd files for tool statistics.
[2007-06-10T15:51:59+00:00] <_syphilis_> you can reply on irc if you like
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[2007-06-10T15:52:10+00:00] <_syphilis_> just say if you need more than the standard quota (256M)
[2007-06-10T15:52:18+00:00] <_Duesentrieb_> i guess i am :)
[2007-06-10T15:53:01+00:00] <_Duesentrieb_> i guess i do. at least twice that i guess.
[2007-06-10T15:53:33+00:00] <_syphilis_> okay, i gave you 512M.  you can change it if you like: quotatool -b -u daniel -q 512M -l 768M /home
[2007-06-10T15:53:48+00:00] <_Duesentrieb_> yea, thanks.
[2007-06-10T15:54:08+00:00] <WarX> _syphilis_: I'm moving 300 MB of data to Wrocław
[2007-06-10T15:56:25+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Does the toolserver happen to have some undeletion software installed on it?
[2007-06-10T15:56:34+00:00] <_syphilis_> no
[2007-06-10T15:57:19+00:00] <_syphilis_> there are nightly backups of /home if you need something
[2007-06-10T15:57:45+00:00] <Lcarsdata> :( - /me accidentally removed a config file because svn confused him. Doesn't matter really (and it was only created about ten minutes ago)
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[2007-06-10T15:59:01+00:00] <WarX> _syphilis_: done
[2007-06-10T15:59:12+00:00] <_syphilis_> thx
[2007-06-10T15:59:23+00:00] <_syphilis_> WarX: you got standard quota then.  say if you need more
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[2007-06-10T16:33:24+00:00] <Bryan>  /usr/local/bin/showquota appears not to be working
[2007-06-10T16:33:36+00:00] <Bryan>  /usr/local/bin/showquota: line 3: quotatool: not found
[2007-06-10T16:33:38+00:00] <Bryan> at login
[2007-06-10T16:39:21+00:00] <_syphilis_> hm
[2007-06-10T16:39:37+00:00] <_syphilis_> should be fixed now
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[2007-06-10T16:41:47+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Neat, I am using 57MB of my 256MB quota.
[2007-06-10T16:42:19+00:00] <_syphilis_> you can get more detail from 'quota -s'
[2007-06-10T16:42:24+00:00] <_syphilis_> showquota is just a summary for login
[2007-06-10T16:42:40+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ahh
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[2007-06-10T16:45:54+00:00] <valhallasw> 168MB here
[2007-06-10T16:45:59+00:00] <valhallasw> might want to do some cleaning ;)
[2007-06-10T16:46:07+00:00] <Lcarsdata> you still have nearly 100MB
[2007-06-10T16:46:16+00:00] <valhallasw> yeah
[2007-06-10T16:57:39+00:00] <valhallasw> Bryan?
[2007-06-10T16:57:50+00:00] <Bryan> ?
[2007-06-10T16:58:07+00:00] <valhallasw> http://tools.wikimedia.de/websvn/listing.php?repname=valhallasw&path=%2Flibs%2Fpython%2Fpywikipedia%2F&rev=0&sc=0 -> wikipedia_ts.py and catlib_ts.py (and toolserver.py)
[2007-06-10T16:58:17+00:00] <valhallasw> still in development, but I'm getting somewhere
[2007-06-10T16:58:31+00:00] <valhallasw> and yes, I am monkey patching pywikipedia ;)
[2007-06-10T17:01:21+00:00] <vishwin60> !replag
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[2007-06-10T17:07:09+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Odd,
[2007-06-10T17:07:16+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I can't send messages to #mediawiki
[2007-06-10T17:07:33+00:00] <_syphilis_> yes you can, you're flooding the channel
[2007-06-10T17:07:42+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ach
[2007-06-10T17:08:08+00:00] <Lcarsdata> sorry
[2007-06-10T17:08:13+00:00] <valhallasw> 8)7
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[2007-06-10T17:15:09+00:00] <Bryan> valhallasw: monkey?
[2007-06-10T17:15:24+00:00] <valhallasw> Bryan: yes.
[2007-06-10T17:15:45+00:00] <valhallasw> overwriting eg. wikipedia.Site.dbName with another function
[2007-06-10T17:16:30+00:00] <Bryan> that is...
[2007-06-10T17:16:42+00:00] <Bryan> a wrong way of programming ;P
[2007-06-10T17:16:59+00:00] <valhallasw> it's the only way to accomplish this without copying wikipedia.py :p
[2007-06-10T17:17:31+00:00] <valhallasw> so no, it's not a wrong way of programming, it's a way of keeping things easy to maintain
[2007-06-10T17:17:41+00:00] <valhallasw> because you haven't got two wikipedia.py's with 90% the same code
[2007-06-10T17:17:41+00:00] <Bryan> well, you could have Site accept an imageclass variable
[2007-06-10T17:17:58+00:00] <Bryan> and then instead of of calling directly ImagePage(), self.imageclass()
[2007-06-10T17:18:39+00:00] <valhallasw> yes
[2007-06-10T17:18:43+00:00] <valhallasw> might work for class
[2007-06-10T17:18:45+00:00] <valhallasw> for Site
[2007-06-10T17:18:46+00:00] <Bryan> but that is a lot of work
[2007-06-10T17:18:47+00:00] <valhallasw> not for Page
[2007-06-10T17:18:56+00:00] <valhallasw> as ImagePage etc. are subclasses of Page
[2007-06-10T17:18:57+00:00] <Bryan> hm ok.
[2007-06-10T17:19:17+00:00] <valhallasw> I agree with you it's not the nicest way to code it, but I cannot find a better way to do it
[2007-06-10T17:19:36+00:00] <valhallasw> and I'm trying to keep it as clear as possible..
[2007-06-10T17:19:48+00:00] <valhallasw> compare it with goto's; they are evil, but can be used in a clear way ;)
[2007-06-10T17:20:23+00:00] <Bryan> yeah :)
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[2007-06-10T17:34:52+00:00] <valhallasw> what the... wait
[2007-06-10T17:34:55+00:00] <valhallasw> maybe I should save
[2007-06-10T17:35:20+00:00] <_syphilis_> valhallasw: you fail your save against BOFH.  BOFH deletes 10 of your files!-More-
[2007-06-10T17:36:22+00:00] <valhallasw> <space>
[2007-06-10T17:36:43+00:00] <_syphilis_> Your account expires.
[2007-06-10T17:37:09+00:00] <valhallasw> :O
[2007-06-10T17:37:30+00:00] <valhallasw> now if I don't reboot my computer I will stay logged in \\o
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[2007-06-10T17:42:07+00:00] <para> are non latin-1 characters supposed to work ok in filenames on the toolserver and apache? There seems to be a problem with ü
[2007-06-10T17:42:16+00:00] <para> that one might actually belong in latin-1, hmm
[2007-06-10T17:42:23+00:00] <_syphilis_> yes, but probably only in UTF-8
[2007-06-10T17:43:09+00:00] <para> http://tools.wikimedia.de/~para/temp/ shows up odd
[2007-06-10T17:43:56+00:00] <para> I was going to demonstrate how there's no character problems with my tools, but I end up having them for the demonstration files. figures :)
[2007-06-10T17:44:08+00:00] <_syphilis_> encoding is sent as UTF-8 but your filenames aren't
[2007-06-10T17:44:21+00:00] <para> how do I know what they're in?
[2007-06-10T17:44:38+00:00] <_syphilis_> can't easily
[2007-06-10T17:44:46+00:00] <_syphilis_> you could try viewing them in various encodings and see what looks right
[2007-06-10T17:44:52+00:00] <para> hmm, probably some environment variable change
[2007-06-10T17:45:02+00:00] <_syphilis_> but latin-1 text is still valid latin-2 (for example); it just will have different letters
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[2007-06-10T17:46:17+00:00] <para> export LANG=utf8 stars showing them as question marks, but tab completion still shows them as Ü. I don't get it
[2007-06-10T17:46:38+00:00] <_syphilis_> maybe your shell is operating on bytes rather than characters
[2007-06-10T17:47:12+00:00] <_syphilis_> ls will show them as ? since it's not valid in your encoding (utf-8)
[2007-06-10T17:48:04+00:00] <_syphilis_> if the invalid character is meant to be a Ue, i guess they are in latin-1
[2007-06-10T17:51:51+00:00] <para> fine I'll just call them test then. no idea how to fix it otherwise
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[2007-06-10T19:42:40+00:00] <valhallasw> watchlists are unavailable on the toolserver, right?
[2007-06-10T19:46:22+00:00] <Cbrown1023> ?
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[2007-06-10T19:48:33+00:00] <DaB|Laptop> valhallasw: yes
[2007-06-10T19:48:50+00:00] <valhallasw> k
[2007-06-10T19:48:58+00:00] <valhallasw> I'll cache then
[2007-06-10T19:56:02+00:00] <Duesentrieb_> valhallasw: cache what? how would you get user's watchlists?
[2007-06-10T19:56:08+00:00] <Duesentrieb_> you shouldn't be able to.#
[2007-06-10T19:56:37+00:00] <valhallasw> Duesentrieb_: grin. no, not the watchlist of random users
[2007-06-10T19:56:41+00:00] <valhallasw> but of pywikipedia
[2007-06-10T20:07:36+00:00] <stv> sql down
[2007-06-10T20:07:36+00:00] <Bryan> zedler is dead?
[2007-06-10T20:08:06+00:00] <valhallasw> :O
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[2007-06-10T20:08:21+00:00] <valhallasw> zedler lives, sql is dead
[2007-06-10T20:08:30+00:00] <valhallasw> sql is dead, long live sql? ;)
[2007-06-10T20:08:36+00:00] <DaB|Laptop> doing selfrepair at the moment
[2007-06-10T20:08:41+00:00] <valhallasw> ah
[2007-06-10T20:09:28+00:00] <Bryan> well, that's a nice time to try to see whether my auto reconnector works
[2007-06-10T20:09:46+00:00] <valhallasw> hehe
[2007-06-10T20:09:55+00:00] <valhallasw> I still have to build it into my querier
[2007-06-10T20:09:57+00:00] <valhallasw> or vice versa
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[2007-06-10T20:15:12+00:00] <Misza13> oh my, I just wanted to make a file executable and typed...
[2007-06-10T20:15:18+00:00] <Misza13> /mode +x filename
[2007-06-10T20:15:47+00:00] <Shadow42> MySQL down for anyone else?
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[2007-06-10T20:16:10+00:00] <Misza13> down here
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[2007-06-10T20:16:33+00:00] <Shadow42> Ah.
[2007-06-10T20:16:35+00:00] <Bryan> before somebody else asks :P
[2007-06-10T20:16:40+00:00] <valhallasw> heh
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[2007-06-10T20:18:55+00:00] <valhallasw> Bryan: retry_timeout = ?
[2007-06-10T20:19:00+00:00] <valhallasw> the time to wait before a new try?
[2007-06-10T20:19:04+00:00] <Bryan> yes
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[2007-06-10T20:19:13+00:00] <Bryan> well, actually not totally
[2007-06-10T20:19:23+00:00] <Bryan> time to wait for the first retry
[2007-06-10T20:19:37+00:00] <Bryan> the n-th retry will wait n*retry_timeout seconds
[2007-06-10T20:24:12+00:00] <valhallasw> ah
[2007-06-10T20:24:12+00:00] <valhallasw> nice
[2007-06-10T20:24:34+00:00] <valhallasw> and what does a callback function do?
[2007-06-10T20:24:46+00:00] <valhallasw> call back when data has been recieved?
[2007-06-10T20:25:59+00:00] <Bryan> callback when something goes wrong
[2007-06-10T20:26:11+00:00] <Bryan> so that some message can be outputted, etc
[2007-06-10T20:26:21+00:00] <valhallasw> k
[2007-06-10T20:26:25+00:00] <Bryan> I use this in delinker.py:
[2007-06-10T20:26:27+00:00] <Bryan> def wait_callback(object):
[2007-06-10T20:26:28+00:00] <Bryan> 	output(u'Connection has been lost in %s. Attempting reconnection.' % repr(object), False)
[2007-06-10T20:26:38+00:00] <valhallasw> right
[2007-06-10T20:27:04+00:00] <valhallasw> repr(object) <-- grin. I am the evil object.__repr__()-user :)
[2007-06-10T20:27:12+00:00] <valhallasw> might so some search and replace on that
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[2007-06-10T20:27:34+00:00] <valhallasw> :)
[2007-06-10T20:30:18+00:00] <Misza13> any plans on installing python 2.5 anytime soon? (just wondering)
[2007-06-10T20:31:54+00:00] <Cbrown1023> what's going on with http://tools.wikimedia.de/~daniel/WikiSense/CheckUsage.php ?
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[2007-06-10T20:33:52+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Cbrown1023: Zedler is down.
[2007-06-10T20:34:07+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Cbrown1023: Sorry to be a smart arse, but if you read the topic... ;)
[2007-06-10T20:34:20+00:00] <Cbrown1023> :-P
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[2007-06-10T20:34:38+00:00] <Cbrown1023> of course....
[2007-06-10T20:34:47+00:00] <Cbrown1023> zedler *has* to go down when I need it :)
[2007-06-10T20:34:51+00:00] <valhallasw> *grin*
[2007-06-10T20:35:12+00:00] <valhallasw> Bryan|away: any chance of returning the reconnect time to the callback function?
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[2007-06-10T20:35:52+00:00] <Cbrown1023> :)
[2007-06-10T20:36:26+00:00] <Lcarsdata> They could let us do queries on the master and the slave db servers for the wikis and then there would never by any replag (although _syphilis_ wouldn't have anything to code)
[2007-06-10T20:36:42+00:00] <Lcarsdata> and we could use some of the apaches for our web space.
[2007-06-10T20:36:50+00:00] <Lcarsdata> s/web space/home accounts
[2007-06-10T20:38:06+00:00] <Bryan|away> valhallasw: well, you can calculate it yourself
[2007-06-10T20:38:06+00:00] <Lcarsdata> They are probably worried we will perform some excessively long mysql query and crash all the wikis though.
[2007-06-10T20:38:18+00:00] <valhallasw> Bryan|away: true
[2007-06-10T20:38:22+00:00] <Bryan|away> because you get the entire connection object returned
[2007-06-10T20:38:30+00:00] <valhallasw> ah yes
[2007-06-10T20:38:37+00:00] <valhallasw> I'm creating a __repr__ function anyway ;)
[2007-06-10T20:38:41+00:00] <DaB|Laptop> 80% at the moment
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[2007-06-10T20:40:47+00:00] <valhallasw> speedy ;)
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[2007-06-10T20:44:58+00:00] <Lcarsdata> secret?
[2007-06-10T20:45:07+00:00] <Lcarsdata> oh, lol
[2007-06-10T20:45:07+00:00] <Cbrown1023> +s
[2007-06-10T20:45:12+00:00] <Lcarsdata> yeah
[2007-06-10T20:45:19+00:00] <Lcarsdata> that is weird
[2007-06-10T20:45:29+00:00] <valhallasw> not really
[2007-06-10T20:45:32+00:00] <Cbrown1023> I've noticed it before
[2007-06-10T20:45:34+00:00] <valhallasw> good way to keep bots out
[2007-06-10T20:45:45+00:00] <Lcarsdata> there are no bots on freenode really
[2007-06-10T20:45:51+00:00] <valhallasw> i.e. spambots who do /list
[2007-06-10T20:45:57+00:00] <Lcarsdata> valhallasw: ever heard of +b ?
[2007-06-10T20:45:57+00:00] <valhallasw> not many, true
[2007-06-10T20:46:02+00:00] <valhallasw> yes
[2007-06-10T20:46:08+00:00] <valhallasw> prevention works
[2007-06-10T20:46:13+00:00] <Lcarsdata> we could go one better and make it +i
[2007-06-10T20:46:18+00:00] <valhallasw> and anyone who needs this channel will find it
[2007-06-10T20:46:35+00:00] <Cbrown1023> why would we go +i ?
[2007-06-10T20:46:39+00:00] <Cbrown1023> that would be stupid :-P
[2007-06-10T20:47:13+00:00] <Lcarsdata> we could be elitest
[2007-06-10T20:47:17+00:00] <Lcarsdata> *elitist
[2007-06-10T20:47:35+00:00] <DaB|Laptop> 98%
[2007-06-10T20:47:59+00:00] <Lcarsdata> w00t
[2007-06-10T20:49:18+00:00] <valhallasw> works \\o
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[2007-06-10T20:49:22+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> Cbrown1023: I was only kidding.
[2007-06-10T20:49:33+00:00] <Cbrown1023> :)
[2007-06-10T20:49:38+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I am rubbish at jokes aren't I White_Cat,
[2007-06-10T20:49:45+00:00] <Cbrown1023> lol
[2007-06-10T20:49:54+00:00] <White_Cat> probably not
[2007-06-10T20:50:00+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> Huh?
[2007-06-10T20:50:02+00:00] <White_Cat> it appears you are trying too hard
[2007-06-10T20:50:08+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I gues.
[2007-06-10T20:50:14+00:00] <White_Cat> Much like Data
[2007-06-10T20:50:31+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> The human-like android from Star Trek?
[2007-06-10T20:50:36+00:00] <White_Cat> yes
[2007-06-10T20:50:38+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Who shares my name.
[2007-06-10T20:50:39+00:00] <White_Cat> is there another?
[2007-06-10T20:50:44+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> No.
[2007-06-10T20:50:54+00:00] <Lcarsdata> s/my name/the last part of my pseudonym
[2007-06-10T20:51:03+00:00] <White_Cat> I think you are stealing his name
[2007-06-10T20:51:10+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> Why?
[2007-06-10T20:51:15+00:00] <White_Cat> well
[2007-06-10T20:51:37+00:00] <White_Cat> you were far too small to impact entertainment industry when data first came about over a decade ago
[2007-06-10T20:51:47+00:00] <White_Cat> two decades I think
[2007-06-10T20:51:50+00:00] <White_Cat> man time flies
[2007-06-10T20:52:12+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Two decades? Holy crap.
[2007-06-10T20:52:13+00:00] <White_Cat> 28 September 1987
[2007-06-10T20:52:18+00:00] <White_Cat> first TNG ep
[2007-06-10T20:52:22+00:00] <White_Cat> we are in 2007
[2007-06-10T20:52:34+00:00] <Lcarsdata> woah
[2007-06-10T20:52:56+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> no wonder boyager and ds9 are btter
[2007-06-10T20:53:04+00:00] <Cbrown1023> wow
[2007-06-10T20:53:12+00:00] <Lcarsdata> *voyage
[2007-06-10T20:53:13+00:00] <Lcarsdata> r
[2007-06-10T20:53:14+00:00] <White_Cat> yup
[2007-06-10T20:53:16+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Cbrown1023: ?
[2007-06-10T20:53:30+00:00] <White_Cat> also DS9 wasnt using computers as nicely as they can today
[2007-06-10T20:53:36+00:00] <White_Cat> ST:ENT is mostly in computers
[2007-06-10T20:53:44+00:00] <Cbrown1023> I was wow'ing @ White_Cate before
[2007-06-10T20:53:49+00:00] <White_Cat> ds9 was model mania
[2007-06-10T20:54:03+00:00] <Lcarsdata> model?
[2007-06-10T20:54:06+00:00] <White_Cat> yup
[2007-06-10T20:54:12+00:00] <White_Cat> all those ships were mere models
[2007-06-10T20:54:21+00:00] <White_Cat> they made hundereds of them for battle of bajor
[2007-06-10T20:54:47+00:00] <White_Cat> on ST:ENT we 'finaly' seen some real computer mania
[2007-06-10T20:55:10+00:00] <Lcarsdata> yeah
[2007-06-10T20:55:24+00:00] <Lcarsdata> White_Cat: Do you have an Imax near you?
[2007-06-10T20:55:39+00:00] <White_Cat> IMAX?
[2007-06-10T20:55:55+00:00] <Lcarsdata> 3D cinema
[2007-06-10T20:56:02+00:00] <Shadow42> White_Cat: It's a movie theater on steroids
[2007-06-10T20:56:16+00:00] <White_Cat> I know what it is
[2007-06-10T20:56:27+00:00] <Lcarsdata> White_Cat: Do you have one near you?
[2007-06-10T20:56:41+00:00] <White_Cat> I heavly doubt it
[2007-06-10T20:56:50+00:00] <White_Cat> well
[2007-06-10T20:56:53+00:00] <White_Cat> london is nearby
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[2007-06-10T20:56:57+00:00] <White_Cat> only a contient away
[2007-06-10T20:57:05+00:00] <Lcarsdata> okay, well anyway - you would enjoy the latest roving mars movie
[2007-06-10T20:57:12+00:00] <Lcarsdata> while it is not 3d the cgi is awsome
[2007-06-10T20:57:54+00:00] <Lcarsdata> there is this rocket (like on the opening credits of ST:ENT) which takes off and the boosters sperate (the only difference is it doesn't go to warp and the subwoofer is out of this world)
[2007-06-10T20:58:02+00:00] <Lcarsdata> White_Cat: Planning on coming to London soon?
[2007-06-10T20:58:08+00:00] <White_Cat> no
[2007-06-10T20:58:14+00:00] <Lcarsdata> :(
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[2007-06-10T20:58:27+00:00] <White_Cat> I need a time lord first
[2007-06-10T20:58:32+00:00] <White_Cat> to transport me there
[2007-06-10T20:58:40+00:00] <White_Cat> Cbrown1023 is
[2007-06-10T20:58:48+00:00] <White_Cat> nt using his tardis
[2007-06-10T20:59:26+00:00] <Lcarsdata> White_Cat: Do you watch doctor who?
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[2007-06-10T20:59:34+00:00] <White_Cat> who doesnt?
[2007-06-10T20:59:50+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Have you seen the latest episodes released?
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[2007-06-10T21:00:03+00:00] <White_Cat> http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:f1q4yscAisQJ:www.1570films.com/newthtrs.htm+IMAX+Turkey&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2
[2007-06-10T21:00:14+00:00] <White_Cat> yes there are two IMAX ones apperantly near me :)
[2007-06-10T21:00:24+00:00] <White_Cat> I'll be going to Istanbul this Tuesday
[2007-06-10T21:01:00+00:00] <Lcarsdata> White_Cat: If you can afford it go and see Roving Mars it is the best movie I have ever seen.
[2007-06-10T21:01:31+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Woah, you have a Imax 360
[2007-06-10T21:01:50+00:00] <White_Cat> I can afford anything
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[2007-06-10T21:02:14+00:00] <White_Cat> thats practialy everything
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[2007-06-10T21:06:48+00:00] <White_Cat> no I havent watched last dr who
[2007-06-10T21:07:49+00:00] <Lcarsdata> have you watched any this series?
[2007-06-10T21:09:54+00:00] <White_Cat> yes
[2007-06-10T21:09:57+00:00] <White_Cat> all but last ep
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[2007-06-10T21:11:17+00:00] <White_Cat> I am dling the last ep starting...
[2007-06-10T21:11:18+00:00] <White_Cat> now
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[2007-06-10T21:13:12+00:00] <Lcarsdata> White_Cat: the latest ones are quite boring
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[2007-06-10T21:26:45+00:00] <valhallasw> Bryan: you might be interested in /home/valhallasw/libs/python/pywikipedia/querier.py; its a simple 'abstraction layer' that saves the hassle with cursors etc
[2007-06-10T21:27:00+00:00] <Bryan> will look at it
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[2007-06-10T21:27:37+00:00] <valhallasw> finally converted it to four-space-tabs :)
[2007-06-10T21:27:57+00:00] <yrithinnd> !replag
[2007-06-10T21:27:58+00:00] <replagbot> yrithinnd: s2: 0d 1h 12m 14s (4334s) [+4332s in 6651s]; s3: 1d 10h 37m 8s (124628s) [+7157s in 15997s]; s1: 131d 1h 16m 2s (11322962s) [+15981s in 15997s]
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[2007-06-10T21:28:54+00:00] <Bryan> bah, tabs are tabulator
[2007-06-10T21:28:57+00:00] <Bryan> s
[2007-06-10T21:28:59+00:00] <Bryan> not spaces
[2007-06-10T21:29:11+00:00] <valhallasw> er.
[2007-06-10T21:29:27+00:00] <valhallasw> not in 90% of python source codes ;)
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[2007-06-10T21:30:27+00:00] <valhallasw> maybe pywikipedia should take on some coding convention :p
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[2007-06-10T21:47:23+00:00] <valhallasw> Bryan: I broke something
[2007-06-10T21:47:34+00:00] <Bryan> in what?
[2007-06-10T21:47:50+00:00] <valhallasw> mysql_autoconnection triggered a recursive loop
[2007-06-10T21:48:42+00:00] <valhallasw> ah yes
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[2007-06-10T23:17:28+00:00] <valhallasw> Duesentrieb_: is it possible to get multiple revisions at once through wikiproxy?
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[2007-06-10T23:20:28+00:00] <Duesentrieb_> no. that would require some type of wrapper format.
[2007-06-10T23:21:02+00:00] <_syphilis_> XML!!!!!
[2007-06-10T23:21:23+00:00] <_syphilis_> does ext3 has any automatic compression support?
[2007-06-10T23:21:43+00:00] <Duesentrieb_> for example. but it doesn't make much sense anyway, because i need to pull each revision individually anyway. well, at least if it's not yet cached.
[2007-06-10T23:23:18+00:00] <_syphilis_> hmm, apparently not
[2007-06-10T23:25:22+00:00] <valhallasw> Duesentrieb_: query.php has a content property
[2007-06-10T23:26:46+00:00] <valhallasw> how are you getting content atm?
[2007-06-10T23:26:53+00:00] <Duesentrieb_> action=raw
[2007-06-10T23:27:20+00:00] <valhallasw> mkay
[2007-06-10T23:29:18+00:00] <valhallasw> query.php does not support specific revid's though
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[2007-06-10T23:30:28+00:00] <valhallasw> nn
[2007-06-10T23:32:10+00:00] <valhallasw> in any case, my pywikipedia-toolserver-implementation is nearing completion
[2007-06-10T23:33:14+00:00] <valhallasw> (pywikipedia has a getFullVersionHistory function, which retrieves it from special:export; I have now implemented it with seperate requests to wikiproxy, which is painfully slow)
[2007-06-10T23:34:07+00:00] <valhallasw> (and I have implemented the throttle for get requests to be triggered when a non-cached result is returned... which makes it even slower ;))
[2007-06-10T23:34:30+00:00] <valhallasw> anyway, gn.
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[2007-06-11T00:14:32+00:00] <Betacommand> DaB|Laptop: you about?
[2007-06-11T00:15:11+00:00] <DaB|Laptop> about what?
[2007-06-11T00:15:47+00:00] <Betacommand> can you kill all the currently running threads on my account?
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[2007-06-11T00:15:57+00:00] <Betacommand> I cant get them to close
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[2007-06-11T00:16:22+00:00] <Betacommand> screen -d isnt seeming to work
[2007-06-11T00:16:34+00:00] <_syphilis_> Betacommand: you can too: pkill -U betacommand
[2007-06-11T00:16:42+00:00] <Betacommand> Ahh
[2007-06-11T00:16:46+00:00] <Betacommand> will do
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[2007-06-11T00:26:42+00:00] <Connel> _syphilis_: here now, what's up?
[2007-06-11T00:27:29+00:00] <_syphilis_> Connel: you're using more than the standard quota (256MB).  would you like to delete some files, or request a larger quota?
[2007-06-11T00:28:05+00:00] <Connel> Um, I don't recall anything big hanging around.  I'd better check first.
[2007-06-11T00:29:29+00:00] <Connel> all better now?
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[2007-06-11T00:30:04+00:00] <_syphilis_> yep.  okay, i gave you the standard quota.  ask if you need more
[2007-06-11T00:31:45+00:00] <Connel> ok, thanks for the heads-up
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[2007-06-11T00:42:16+00:00] <yrithinnd> _syphilis_, could be available any partition o directory (perphaps /var/tmp) with unlimited space being this directory cleaned every weeks/days. sometimes i have download dumps to generate any summaries for es:
[2007-06-11T00:42:31+00:00] <_syphilis_> yrithinnd: you can put dumps in /mnt/aux0/archiv
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[2007-06-11T00:43:29+00:00] <yrithinnd> oh :O ok fantastic
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[2007-06-11T07:13:21+00:00] <Filnik> Hello
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[2007-06-11T19:06:56+00:00] <Stephaknee> hi, how come my account says it's expired?
[2007-06-11T19:07:52+00:00] <Shadow42> Did you reply to DaB's account expiration email?
[2007-06-11T19:08:06+00:00] <Stephaknee> uh
[2007-06-11T19:08:24+00:00] <Stephaknee> what would the subject of it be?
[2007-06-11T19:08:47+00:00] <Shadow42> "List of accounts which will be expired soon"
[2007-06-11T19:08:50+00:00] <Stephaknee> anyway, i *just* got it re-enabled a month or two ago, after a couple years inactivity
[2007-06-11T19:10:51+00:00] <Stephaknee> well. I don't see that message anywhere....maybe it got junked. :)
[2007-06-11T19:11:22+00:00] <Stephaknee> oh, i found it.
[2007-06-11T19:13:43+00:00] <Stephaknee> I figured since i just had my account re-enabled, i would be in the clear for atleast a month. I don't suppose any admins are around?
[2007-06-11T19:20:41+00:00] <DaB|Essen> re
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[2007-06-11T19:20:59+00:00] <DaB|Laptop> Stephaknee: username?
[2007-06-11T19:21:22+00:00] <Stephaknee> DaB|Laptop: stephanie
[2007-06-11T19:22:48+00:00] <DaB|Laptop> ok
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[2007-06-11T19:46:26+00:00] <Stephaknee> DaB|Laptop: still here?
[2007-06-11T19:46:33+00:00] <DaB|Laptop> yes
[2007-06-11T19:46:44+00:00] <Stephaknee> what do i have to do to make it not give a 403 when i go to http://tools.wikimedia.de/~stephanie/?
[2007-06-11T19:47:29+00:00] <DaB|Laptop> give apache read-right at your public_html-dir
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[2007-06-11T22:40:41+00:00] <Cbrown1023> !replag-2
[2007-06-11T22:40:46+00:00] <Cbrown1023> !replag
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[2007-06-11T22:41:21+00:00] <Cbrown1023> Commons is set 2, right?
[2007-06-11T22:43:18+00:00] <para> yep
[2007-06-11T22:44:40+00:00] <Cbrown1023> thanks
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[2007-06-11T23:29:42+00:00] <ST47> [+2895s in 2899s]
[2007-06-11T23:29:49+00:00] <ST47> :(
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[2007-06-11T23:31:45+00:00] <Cbrown1023> :(
[2007-06-11T23:31:54+00:00] <Cbrown1023> but we have new stuff coming :)
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[2007-06-11T23:32:27+00:00] <ST47> :)
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[2007-06-12T14:44:25+00:00] <chuck> umm did something weird happen with the toolserver?
[2007-06-12T14:44:36+00:00] <chuck> my ssh key isn't working anymore :/
[2007-06-12T14:45:11+00:00] <Lcarsdata> me thinks no
[2007-06-12T14:45:31+00:00] <Lcarsdata> chuck: I guess you'll no longer be able to maintain the toolservlog bots
[2007-06-12T14:45:40+00:00] <chuck> lol
[2007-06-12T14:45:50+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Wait, your bots aren't even active.
[2007-06-12T14:46:06+00:00] <chuck> i know
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[2007-06-12T14:46:42+00:00] <chuck> my ssh key won't work, and i know it's a problem on the toolserver side because i can still use it to login to other servers :/
[2007-06-12T14:46:54+00:00] <Filnik> Hello
[2007-06-12T14:46:57+00:00] <Lcarsdata> hi
[2007-06-12T14:47:34+00:00] <Filnik> hi Lcarsdata :)
[2007-06-12T14:47:46+00:00] <Lcarsdata> chuck: has your account expired
[2007-06-12T14:48:07+00:00] <Lcarsdata> your home dir gives a 403 error
[2007-06-12T14:48:12+00:00] <Lcarsdata> s/home dir/website
[2007-06-12T14:48:45+00:00] <chuck> no, i just reactivated it a few weeks ago
[2007-06-12T14:49:05+00:00] <chuck> _syphilis_: Do you know why?
[2007-06-12T14:52:11+00:00] <_syphilis_> please paste the output of 'ssh -vvv hemlock' at www.rafb.net/paste
[2007-06-12T14:53:41+00:00] <chuck> http://rafb.net/p/IE4YDx72.html
[2007-06-12T14:54:05+00:00] <_syphilis_> i meant that you'd type the entire hostname, so it tries to connect :)
[2007-06-12T14:54:10+00:00] <chuck> lol
[2007-06-12T14:54:30+00:00] <chuck> http://rafb.net/p/6rpiWq59.html
[2007-06-12T14:55:07+00:00] <_syphilis_> debug1: Connecting to hemlock.ts.wikimedia.de [80.67.17.138] port 22.
[2007-06-12T14:55:14+00:00] <_syphilis_> your hostname typing fu is weak today
[2007-06-12T14:55:17+00:00] <_syphilis_> it's wikimedia.org
[2007-06-12T14:55:24+00:00] <chuck> O.o
[2007-06-12T14:55:26+00:00] <chuck> lol
[2007-06-12T14:55:27+00:00] <chuck> ok thanks
[2007-06-12T15:01:15+00:00] <heinz> !replag
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[2007-06-12T15:15:48+00:00] <chuck> wow, when did we start getting 256mb quotas lol
[2007-06-12T15:16:02+00:00] <Lcarsdata> chuck: Read the mailing list.
[2007-06-12T15:16:33+00:00] <chuck> i didn't get any message :/
[2007-06-12T15:16:41+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> Everyone says that ;)
[2007-06-12T15:16:49+00:00] <chuck> lol
[2007-06-12T15:18:08+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> chuck: Are you still doing your logs?
[2007-06-12T15:18:20+00:00] <chuck> nah
[2007-06-12T15:18:22+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> If not they should be removed from the topic as they won't be up-to date
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[2007-06-12T15:19:07+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Woah, did that just happen.
[2007-06-12T15:19:17+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I sent to messages to the channel but they never came out.
[2007-06-12T15:19:27+00:00] <_syphilis_> you were probably scrolled up
[2007-06-12T15:19:50+00:00] <_syphilis_> chuck: if you didn't get a message on the list you need to fix your subscription
[2007-06-12T15:19:59+00:00] <_syphilis_> all users are required to read the list
[2007-06-12T15:20:12+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: They arrived two minutes after I sent them o.O
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[2007-06-12T15:54:28+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: How much disk space does the toolserver have?
[2007-06-12T15:55:05+00:00] <_syphilis_> hemlock has 2 72G disks.  zedler has 6 146G disks and 12 400G disks
[2007-06-12T15:55:24+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Okay, :(
[2007-06-12T15:56:04+00:00] <Lcarsdata> bah, I guess I will just have to get the 500GB hard drive I need to perform analysis on the wikimedia commons image banks myself
[2007-06-12T15:56:04+00:00] <chuck> i think the command for checking diskspace is "df" or something like that
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[2007-06-12T17:26:33+00:00] <Lcarsdata2> Martinp23: Really sorry to bug you, but what is the status of the bedfordshire wikiproject infobox bot?
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[2007-06-12T18:20:52+00:00] <Bryan> mysql died?
[2007-06-12T18:33:15+00:00] <Bryan> hm
[2007-06-12T18:33:22+00:00] <Shadow42> looks like it
[2007-06-12T18:46:37+00:00] <para> why does it keep doing that? the answer to "what is it doing" is always the same (I forget what, some repair), so what is it really doing then? repair of unclosed ... thingies?
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[2007-06-12T19:16:39+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Bryan, siebrand you're both here!
[2007-06-12T19:16:45+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I was looking for you both earlier.
[2007-06-12T19:16:49+00:00] <Bryan> :)
[2007-06-12T19:16:51+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I was wondering whether something was possible.
[2007-06-12T19:16:56+00:00] <Bryan> siebrand is actually busy
[2007-06-12T19:17:03+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ok,
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[2007-06-12T19:17:25+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Your bots posess the ability to delink images and could be programmed to delete images on the commons right?
[2007-06-12T19:17:33+00:00] <Bryan> yes
[2007-06-12T19:17:38+00:00] <siebrand> Lcarsdata: I'm in a meeting arm.
[2007-06-12T19:17:38+00:00] <Bryan> but it will not do that
[2007-06-12T19:17:53+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Bryan: Hypothetically.
[2007-06-12T19:17:56+00:00] <Bryan> yes
[2007-06-12T19:18:48+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Would it be a good idea (one that will work flawlessly) to automatically delink and delete duplicates and incorrectly named images?
[2007-06-12T19:18:53+00:00] <Bryan> no
[2007-06-12T19:19:02+00:00] <Bryan> bots are not humans
[2007-06-12T19:19:08+00:00] <Bryan> and cannot judge such a thing
[2007-06-12T19:19:14+00:00] <Bryan> unless they are excact duplicates
[2007-06-12T19:19:27+00:00] <Bryan> I actually have thought about this before
[2007-06-12T19:19:31+00:00] <Lcarsdata> How so? We only delete on exact duplicates.
[2007-06-12T19:19:44+00:00] <Bryan> about [0-9]{1,3}}px- uploads
[2007-06-12T19:20:07+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ahh,
[2007-06-12T19:20:09+00:00] <Bryan> Lcarsdata: what if a vandal adds {{badname}} on an image?
[2007-06-12T19:20:10+00:00] <unilinky> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:badname?redirect=no
[2007-06-12T19:20:19+00:00] <Lcarsdata> cannot they be handled manually
[2007-06-12T19:20:35+00:00] <siebrand> Bryan: there's file compare routine with MD5 in pywikipediabot. Check now_commons.py
[2007-06-12T19:21:02+00:00] <siebrand> Bryan: I added -autonomous to that ;)
[2007-06-12T19:21:44+00:00] <Bryan> Lcarsdata: the bot is programmed as such that there exists a possibility to build an api to give the bot {{universal replace}} commands
[2007-06-12T19:21:44+00:00] <unilinky> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:universal_replace?redirect=no
[2007-06-12T19:22:15+00:00] <Bryan> or, better explained, you can create a bot that tells commonsdelinker to universally delink an image
[2007-06-12T19:22:48+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Bryan: The bot scans the duplicates category, then goes through the page to compare the image marked as a duplicate with the image it is marked as a duplicate of using a SHA2 hash then if the hashes match replace the duplicate to be deleted with the duplicate not to be deleted then if it successfully delinks all occurances it erases the duplicate to be deleted
[2007-06-12T19:23:01+00:00] <Bryan> that's possible.
[2007-06-12T19:23:32+00:00] <Bryan> That should be a seperate bot anyway, but it is an idea.
[2007-06-12T19:24:05+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I am not good enough to work on such a thing, but seeing as no one is interested I will add it to my to do list.
[2007-06-12T19:24:45+00:00] <Bryan> it's not too much work
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[2007-06-12T19:36:14+00:00] <Bryan> !replag
[2007-06-12T19:36:15+00:00] <replagbot> Bryan: s2: unknown; s3: unknown; s1: unknown
[2007-06-12T19:36:17+00:00] <Bryan> :(
[2007-06-12T19:37:57+00:00] <_syphilis_> restarting server
[2007-06-12T19:38:24+00:00] <_syphilis_> will it crash?  prace bets now!!
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[2007-06-12T19:39:43+00:00] <_syphilis_> well, it started up okay
[2007-06-12T19:39:49+00:00] <_syphilis_> cant wait to reinstall zedler
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[2007-06-12T19:41:07+00:00] <Bryan> hah! I won
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[2007-06-12T19:45:22+00:00] <valhallasw> Bryan!
[2007-06-12T19:45:25+00:00] <valhallasw> I fixed the problem
[2007-06-12T19:45:41+00:00] <valhallasw> the point is an incorrect SQL query triggers an operationalerror
[2007-06-12T19:45:48+00:00] <Bryan> huh?
[2007-06-12T19:45:50+00:00] <Bryan> no.
[2007-06-12T19:45:54+00:00] <Bryan> that should be ProgrammingError
[2007-06-12T19:46:23+00:00] <valhallasw> er, yes
[2007-06-12T19:46:47+00:00] <Bryan> I should probably ping() first before reconnecting
[2007-06-12T19:46:47+00:00] <valhallasw> let me see
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[2007-06-12T19:47:12+00:00] <valhallasw> Bryan: anyway
[2007-06-12T19:47:20+00:00] <valhallasw> the programmingerror triggered
[2007-06-12T19:47:34+00:00] <valhallasw> (MySQLdb.OperationalError, MySQLdb.InterfaceError)
[2007-06-12T19:47:37+00:00] <valhallasw> one of those two
[2007-06-12T19:47:43+00:00] <skenmy> oooh
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[2007-06-12T19:47:52+00:00] <valhallasw> the added if fixed it, but I'm not sure why then
[2007-06-12T19:49:13+00:00] <valhallasw> even though it's not a subclass of either of them
[2007-06-12T19:49:14+00:00] <valhallasw> weird
[2007-06-12T19:51:13+00:00] <Bryan> hmm
[2007-06-12T19:51:16+00:00] <Bryan> you committed it?
[2007-06-12T19:52:47+00:00] <valhallasw> what?
[2007-06-12T19:52:53+00:00] <valhallasw> I cannot commit to pywikipedia
[2007-06-12T19:53:22+00:00] <valhallasw> oh, and I changed another thing
[2007-06-12T19:53:33+00:00] <valhallasw> def cursor used MySQLdb.cursors.Cursor when not defined
[2007-06-12T19:53:40+00:00] <valhallasw> it now uses the standard database cursor
[2007-06-12T19:53:43+00:00] <Bryan> where is it?
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[2007-06-12T19:54:04+00:00] <valhallasw> er, /home/valhallasw/libs/python/pywikipedia/mysql_autoconnection.py
[2007-06-12T19:54:07+00:00] <valhallasw> ah
[2007-06-12T19:54:12+00:00] <Bryan> ah
[2007-06-12T19:55:38+00:00] <Bryan> valhallasw: that if is definitely wrong
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[2007-06-12T19:56:00+00:00] <Bryan> because it will now not reconnect on an unexpected connection loss
[2007-06-12T19:56:04+00:00] <siebrand> any idea when 'sql' will be up again?
[2007-06-12T19:56:12+00:00] <Bryan> self.connected is only said by close() and connect()
[2007-06-12T19:56:14+00:00] <Bryan> siebrand: it is
[2007-06-12T19:56:16+00:00] <valhallasw> okay
[2007-06-12T19:56:20+00:00] <siebrand> ah
[2007-06-12T19:56:51+00:00] <valhallasw> I tried adding self.wait()
[2007-06-12T19:57:13+00:00] <valhallasw> which kinda... didn't work
[2007-06-12T19:57:33+00:00] <valhallasw> anyway, haven't got time now
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[2007-06-12T20:03:27+00:00] <Bryan> valhallasw: committed new version
[2007-06-12T20:03:54+00:00] <valhallasw> k
[2007-06-12T20:08:18+00:00] <valhallasw> Bryan: cvs is stupid
[2007-06-12T20:08:26+00:00] <Bryan> yes
[2007-06-12T20:08:35+00:00] <valhallasw> my toolserver svn $Id$ is still in wikipedia.py >_<
[2007-06-12T20:08:41+00:00] <Bryan> try cvs unedit
[2007-06-12T20:08:55+00:00] <valhallasw> I haven't got cvs rights
[2007-06-12T20:09:05+00:00] <valhallasw> and I mena
[2007-06-12T20:09:10+00:00] <valhallasw> in the pywikipediabot cvs tree
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[2007-06-12T20:10:07+00:00] <valhallasw> possibly because cvs doesn't update $Id :)
[2007-06-12T20:10:10+00:00] <valhallasw> http://pywikipediabot.cvs.sourceforge.net/pywikipediabot/pywikipedia/wikipedia.py?r1=1.905&r2=1.906&view=patch
[2007-06-12T20:16:54+00:00] <heinz> !replag
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[2007-06-12T20:20:41+00:00] <skenmy> do .htaccess files work on hemlock?
[2007-06-12T20:20:54+00:00] <_syphilis_> yes
[2007-06-12T20:21:10+00:00] <skenmy> wonderous
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[2007-06-12T20:41:15+00:00] <Bryan> hm.
[2007-06-12T20:41:20+00:00] <Bryan> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Albert_Einstein_%28Nobel%29.png?uselang=en shows a lot of links
[2007-06-12T20:41:22+00:00] <Bryan> but
[2007-06-12T20:41:33+00:00] <Bryan> select * from frwiki_p.imagelinks where il_to = 'Albert_einstein_(nobel).png';
[2007-06-12T20:41:44+00:00] <Bryan> ... nothing
[2007-06-12T20:42:51+00:00] <_syphilis_> river@sql:frwiki_p> select count(*) from imagelinks where il_to = 'Albert_Einstein_(Nobel).png'\G
[2007-06-12T20:42:51+00:00] <_syphilis_> *************************** 1. row ***************************
[2007-06-12T20:42:51+00:00] <_syphilis_> count(*): 57
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[2007-06-12T20:44:24+00:00] <Bryan> huh?
[2007-06-12T20:44:33+00:00] <_syphilis_> check your case
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[2007-06-12T20:44:58+00:00] <valhallasw> Einstein instead of einstein, and Nobel instead of nobel ;)
[2007-06-12T20:45:17+00:00] <Bryan> ... stupid...
[2007-06-12T20:45:22+00:00] <valhallasw> :D
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[2007-06-12T21:01:12+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Martinp23: You here?
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[2007-06-12T21:33:27+00:00] <heinz> !replag
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[2007-06-12T22:33:41+00:00] <_syphilis_> hmm
[2007-06-12T22:33:59+00:00] <_syphilis_> i sort of wish we had a standard account name format, like <first initial><first 7 letters of lastname>
[2007-06-12T22:40:13+00:00] <Jhs> _syphilis_, so, what are the first 7 letters of my last name?
[2007-06-12T22:40:40+00:00] <valhallasw> imo nickname would be more appropriate
[2007-06-12T22:40:49+00:00] <_syphilis_> jhs: soby (or something else if you prefer to transliterate differently)
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[2007-06-12T22:41:52+00:00] <Jhs> but what do we do with the whitespace? :o
[2007-06-12T22:41:52+00:00] <valhallasw> and there is another reason not to use real names
[2007-06-12T22:42:00+00:00] <Jhs> jsoby___
[2007-06-12T22:42:01+00:00] <valhallasw> not everyone wants everyone to know their real name
[2007-06-12T22:42:07+00:00] <Jhs> jsoby000
[2007-06-12T22:42:07+00:00] <_syphilis_> jhs: <= 7 letters
[2007-06-12T22:42:19+00:00] <_syphilis_> (only truncating it at 8 because that's the standard limit for unix usernames)
[2007-06-12T22:42:53+00:00] <valhallasw> 'van deen' would become van dee? or vandeen? or just deen? :P
[2007-06-12T22:44:38+00:00] <siebrand> Database Error: Server: zedler.ts-local; error:
[2007-06-12T22:45:09+00:00] <valhallasw> siebrand: something wrong with your script
[2007-06-12T22:45:32+00:00] <valhallasw> possibly connection losses not handled correctly
[2007-06-12T22:45:35+00:00] <siebrand> valhallasw: http://tools.wikimedia.de/~daniel/WikiSense/UntaggedImages.php?wikifam=commons.wikimedia.org&wikilang=en&order=img_timestamp&since=-331d&until=-300d usually just works...
[2007-06-12T22:46:14+00:00] <valhallasw> _Duesentrieb_: ping
[2007-06-12T22:47:08+00:00] <_syphilis_> (apart from that, we probably should have imposed 8 char limit, having usernames truncated in output is annoying :)
[2007-06-12T22:51:31+00:00] <valhallasw> _syphilis_: as long no two users are using the same 8 char prefix
[2007-06-12T22:51:59+00:00] <_syphilis_> that would be really confusing even if they differed later in the name
[2007-06-12T22:52:18+00:00] <valhallasw> yes
[2007-06-12T22:52:29+00:00] <valhallasw> but as long no two users have the same prefix, <tab> works
[2007-06-12T22:52:31+00:00] <_syphilis_> so we would not want to allow that anyway :)
[2007-06-12T22:52:49+00:00] <_syphilis_> yes, but e.g. 'w' truncates at 8 chars
[2007-06-12T22:52:49+00:00] <valhallasw> ;)
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[2007-06-12T23:08:13+00:00] <_syphilis_> you can new change your shell or gecos information: pwtool [-s shell] [-g gecos]
[2007-06-12T23:11:05+00:00] <ST47> can we retrieve that stuff, so we know what it should be changed to?
[2007-06-12T23:11:13+00:00] <_syphilis_> 'finger <username>'
[2007-06-12T23:11:36+00:00] <_syphilis_> (by default your gecos will be empty.  usually it would contain your real name)
[2007-06-12T23:13:23+00:00] <ST47> ni!
[2007-06-12T23:13:24+00:00] <ST47> st47@hemlock:~$ pwtool -g 'Dan Collins'
[2007-06-12T23:13:24+00:00] <ST47> pwtool: cannot chown /etc/passwd.tmp: Operation not permitted
[2007-06-12T23:13:37+00:00] <_syphilis_> yeah, hang on, i broke it :)
[2007-06-12T23:13:47+00:00] <ST47> :(
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[2007-06-12T23:14:48+00:00] <ST47> That kinda describes my life.
[2007-06-12T23:17:31+00:00] <ST47> fixed
[2007-06-12T23:17:41+00:00] <_syphilis_> yeah, should work now
[2007-06-12T23:22:50+00:00] <Cbrown1023> _syphilis_: thanks :)
[2007-06-12T23:25:06+00:00] <_syphilis_> ST47: you can create ~/.plan :)
[2007-06-12T23:25:14+00:00] <_syphilis_> (probably no-one will read it, though)
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[2007-06-13T01:21:19+00:00] <_syphilis_> i cleaned up [[Toolserver/For users]] a little
[2007-06-13T01:21:19+00:00] <unilinky> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Toolserver/For_users?redirect=no
[2007-06-13T01:21:27+00:00] <_syphilis_> it was getting kind of random with people adding stuff everywhere
[2007-06-13T01:21:41+00:00] <ST47> yey
[2007-06-13T01:23:37+00:00] <_syphilis_> i wonder why the default editor is joe.  silly debian
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[2007-06-13T01:31:34+00:00] <ST47> _syphilis_, could you have a lok at Cbrown1023's crontab to make sure I haven't taught him to kill the system next time it reboots?
[2007-06-13T01:31:50+00:00] <Cbrown1023> hehe
[2007-06-13T01:32:03+00:00] <_syphilis_> use "screen -D -m"
[2007-06-13T01:32:07+00:00] <_syphilis_> oops
[2007-06-13T01:32:10+00:00] <_syphilis_> i mean "-d -m"
[2007-06-13T01:32:20+00:00] <_syphilis_> (to auto-detach at startup)
[2007-06-13T01:32:40+00:00] <ST47> cbrown, that's another crontab -e, if you didn't know :)
[2007-06-13T01:33:06+00:00] <Cbrown1023> so:
[2007-06-13T01:33:08+00:00] <Cbrown1023> contrab -e
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[2007-06-13T01:33:11+00:00] <Cbrown1023> then
[2007-06-13T01:33:14+00:00] <_syphilis_> Cbrown1023: http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Unix-Stan-Kelly-Bootle/dp/0782114997
[2007-06-13T01:33:15+00:00] <Cbrown1023> screen -d -m
[2007-06-13T01:33:15+00:00] <_syphilis_> :)
[2007-06-13T01:33:17+00:00] <Cbrown1023> ?
[2007-06-13T01:33:24+00:00] <_syphilis_> (one day i'm going to scan that book and put it online)
[2007-06-13T01:33:34+00:00] <Cbrown1023> lol
[2007-06-13T01:33:36+00:00] <ST47> screen -d -m python /home/cbrown1023/pywikipedia/welcome.py
[2007-06-13T01:33:53+00:00] <Cbrown1023> so... I am chaning my previous one?
[2007-06-13T01:33:57+00:00] <ST47> yeh
[2007-06-13T01:34:01+00:00] <Cbrown1023> or just make that new one and be lazy?
[2007-06-13T01:34:09+00:00] <ST47> that's what -e does, -e means edit
[2007-06-13T01:34:21+00:00] <ST47> Change the existing one, you don't need it itn there twice
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[2007-06-13T01:35:37+00:00] <ST47> as long as it only says welcome.py once, and doesn't say sudo rm -rf /, then you're good
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[2007-06-13T01:35:47+00:00] <Cbrown1023> right?
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[2007-06-13T01:36:34+00:00] <ST47> bed.
[2007-06-13T01:37:33+00:00] <_syphilis_> (really, that book is very old, but it's the best text for Unix users i've seen.  and it doesn't spend half the book discussing how to install 62 different linux distributions like most unix books)
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[2007-06-13T06:07:09+00:00] <dungodung> will someone fix s3, please? :)
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[2007-06-13T06:37:01+00:00] <heinz> !replag
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[2007-06-13T06:39:33+00:00] <stv> s3 broken?
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[2007-06-13T08:45:52+00:00] <Connel> stv: see topic...hardware (which will be S3) ETA 6/24 - 6/30.
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[2007-06-13T13:17:54+00:00] <White_Cat> ST47
[2007-06-13T13:17:56+00:00] <White_Cat> hey
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[2007-06-13T13:17:59+00:00] <White_Cat> you around?
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[2007-06-13T13:48:00+00:00] <ST47> I am now.
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[2007-06-13T14:06:51+00:00] <White_Cat> ST47 hi
[2007-06-13T14:06:57+00:00] <ST47> !
[2007-06-13T14:07:05+00:00] <White_Cat> centrix is still reverting my sigs
[2007-06-13T14:07:38+00:00] <ST47> Then post to [[WP:AN]]
[2007-06-13T14:07:39+00:00] <unilinky> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WP:AN?redirect=no
[2007-06-13T14:07:50+00:00] <ST47> [[w:WP:AN]]
[2007-06-13T14:07:50+00:00] <unilinky> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/w:WP:AN?redirect=no
[2007-06-13T14:08:00+00:00] <White_Cat> okay
[2007-06-13T14:08:13+00:00] <White_Cat> but I actualy am semi-happy about it
[2007-06-13T14:08:29+00:00] <White_Cat> I want wopr's edits to be revetred
[2007-06-13T14:08:51+00:00] <ST47> :)
[2007-06-13T14:08:55+00:00] <White_Cat> since I want to sort my sigs by year
[2007-06-13T14:09:04+00:00] <ST47> (When you say wopr, I want a whopper)
[2007-06-13T14:09:18+00:00] <White_Cat> ST47 I would however prefer a bot flaged bot to do the reverts
[2007-06-13T14:09:29+00:00] <White_Cat> ST47 actualy its name is intended to give you that feel
[2007-06-13T14:10:07+00:00] <ST47> Hey Martinp23, ping.
[2007-06-13T14:10:27+00:00] <ST47> Meh.
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[2007-06-13T14:10:36+00:00] <ST47> Yeah, that's probably better.
[2007-06-13T14:10:53+00:00] <White_Cat> you mean my lick?
[2007-06-13T14:10:56+00:00] <ST47> No.
[2007-06-13T14:11:01+00:00] <ST47> A bot flag.
[2007-06-13T14:11:01+00:00] <White_Cat> :D
[2007-06-13T14:11:06+00:00] <White_Cat> ST47 also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Centrix#A_query...
[2007-06-13T14:12:21+00:00] <ST47> Martin, answer or I will light you up in every channel I can find, and when you get back, you client will be bright red.
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[2007-06-13T14:13:25+00:00] <White_Cat> ST47 hmm
[2007-06-13T14:13:30+00:00] <ST47> Anyway
[2007-06-13T14:13:32+00:00] <White_Cat> why not bright yellow?
[2007-06-13T14:14:13+00:00] <ST47> Martin, would you approve a bot to revert WOPR's edits?
[2007-06-13T14:14:30+00:00] <Martinp23> gargh - what's wrong with rollback?
[2007-06-13T14:14:38+00:00] <ST47> Well, bot flags are good.
[2007-06-13T14:14:39+00:00] <Martinp23> but meh - show me the proposal :)
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[2007-06-13T14:15:43+00:00] <ST47> Yay, password bypass in xscreensaver.
[2007-06-13T14:15:53+00:00] <ST47> The hackers are everywhere
[2007-06-13T14:16:26+00:00] <ST47> Who was I setting up with toolserver last night?
[2007-06-13T14:16:47+00:00] <White_Cat> :)
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[2007-06-13T14:17:01+00:00] <ST47> Yay for skenmy
[2007-06-13T14:17:06+00:00] <skenmy> \o/
[2007-06-13T14:17:10+00:00] <White_Cat> Martinp23 it isnt a proposal
[2007-06-13T14:17:10+00:00] <ST47> No, it wasn't you :(
[2007-06-13T14:17:15+00:00] <skenmy> I'd like to thank my family!
[2007-06-13T14:17:26+00:00] <White_Cat> I would like you to remove [[w:User:WOPR]]'s edits per my request
[2007-06-13T14:17:26+00:00] <unilinky> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/w:User:WOPR?redirect=no
[2007-06-13T14:17:32+00:00] <White_Cat> err remove -> revert
[2007-06-13T14:18:53+00:00] <Martinp23> I see...
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[2007-06-13T14:19:33+00:00] <Martinp23> I think AWB can do it...
[2007-06-13T14:19:40+00:00] <ST47> AWB can revert?
[2007-06-13T14:19:48+00:00] <ST47> Wow...
[2007-06-13T14:19:54+00:00] <Martinp23> but I'm not in Windows, so rollback will do the job (slowly) :)
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[2007-06-13T14:20:15+00:00] <Martinp23> ST47: There's the IRCMonitor thingy in it, which lets you revert edits
[2007-06-13T14:20:24+00:00] <ST47> Oh
[2007-06-13T14:20:30+00:00] <ST47> Ni
[2007-06-13T14:21:00+00:00] <Martinp23> (I think :))
[2007-06-13T14:21:14+00:00] <Martinp23> All I remember is seeing the function pop up in intellisense ;)
[2007-06-13T14:21:55+00:00] <Martinp23> White_Cat: does WOPR have a bot flag?
[2007-06-13T14:22:07+00:00] <White_Cat> no
[2007-06-13T14:22:12+00:00] <ST47> It was never approved
[2007-06-13T14:22:19+00:00] <White_Cat> was whelmingly opposed
[2007-06-13T14:22:25+00:00] <White_Cat> ST47 disaproved it
[2007-06-13T14:22:28+00:00] <White_Cat> all ST47's fault
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[2007-06-13T14:22:40+00:00] <White_Cat> :)
[2007-06-13T14:22:45+00:00] <ST47> There wasn't community concensus to run it
[2007-06-13T14:22:49+00:00] <White_Cat> I knwo I know
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[2007-06-13T14:23:05+00:00] <White_Cat> concencuc
[2007-06-13T14:23:16+00:00] <White_Cat> sonsensus
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[2007-06-13T14:23:25+00:00] <Martinp23> :P
[2007-06-13T14:23:27+00:00] <White_Cat> as a test
[2007-06-13T14:23:28+00:00] <ST47> it's that second c that always gets me
[2007-06-13T14:23:48+00:00] <ST47> Martinp23, trial was granted, and the length of the trial wasn't specified
[2007-06-13T14:23:50+00:00] <White_Cat> Martinp23 I have been harrased/bashed/annoyed about it for more than enough
[2007-06-13T14:24:01+00:00] <ST47> The longest trial in the history of WP
[2007-06-13T14:24:03+00:00] <ST47> :)
[2007-06-13T14:24:07+00:00] <Martinp23> ST47, White_Cat: OK :S
[2007-06-13T14:24:07+00:00] <White_Cat> not longest
[2007-06-13T14:24:18+00:00] <White_Cat> longest is centrix :)
[2007-06-13T14:24:24+00:00] <White_Cat> centrix is a bot :P
[2007-06-13T14:24:29+00:00] <ST47> :)
[2007-06-13T14:25:07+00:00] <valhallasw> White_Cat: whi rollback...
[2007-06-13T14:25:09+00:00] <valhallasw> why*
[2007-06-13T14:25:19+00:00] <White_Cat> ST47 what should I do about him in your opinion
[2007-06-13T14:25:22+00:00] <valhallasw> it costs more resources than keeping things the way they are now
[2007-06-13T14:25:25+00:00] <Martinp23> I'm actually just wondering that :S
[2007-06-13T14:25:44+00:00] <White_Cat> since his rationale didnt even convince gruntness
[2007-06-13T14:26:01+00:00] <White_Cat> valhallasw because User:Centrix will revert it
[2007-06-13T14:26:13+00:00] <White_Cat> weather you aproach him with that logical fact or not
[2007-06-13T14:26:26+00:00] <White_Cat> why?
[2007-06-13T14:26:26+00:00] <White_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Centrix#A_query...
[2007-06-13T14:27:59+00:00] <ST47> Then WP:AN him and get him blocked for disruption
[2007-06-13T14:29:14+00:00] <White_Cat> well
[2007-06-13T14:30:02+00:00] <Martinp23> !unhilight martinbot
[2007-06-13T14:30:07+00:00] <ST47> >.>
[2007-06-13T14:30:13+00:00] <ST47> martinbot
[2007-06-13T14:30:18+00:00] <Martinp23> :|
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[2007-06-13T14:30:35+00:00] <ST47> martinbot!!!
[2007-06-13T14:31:33+00:00] <Martinp23> all fixed now :)
[2007-06-13T14:31:47+00:00] <ST47> martinbot!!!
[2007-06-13T14:31:49+00:00] <valhallasw> I hope my reaction doesnt count as a personal attack on en.wp :p
[2007-06-13T14:32:05+00:00] <ST47> Pfft
[2007-06-13T14:32:17+00:00] <ST47> on en.wp, everything is a personal attack
[2007-06-13T14:33:04+00:00] <ST47> Someone told me that giving a user a vandalism warning was a personal attack
[2007-06-13T14:33:10+00:00] <valhallasw> :')
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[2007-06-13T14:33:59+00:00] <White_Cat> valhallasw I do not care who thinks what
[2007-06-13T14:34:01+00:00] <White_Cat> I requested it
[2007-06-13T14:34:34+00:00] <valhallasw> White_Cat: you requested to run a bot to change your sig
[2007-06-13T14:34:39+00:00] <valhallasw> which is bad, but anyway
[2007-06-13T14:34:47+00:00] <White_Cat> Not really
[2007-06-13T14:34:50+00:00] <White_Cat> its trivial
[2007-06-13T14:34:54+00:00] <White_Cat> not worth even a discussion
[2007-06-13T14:34:58+00:00] <valhallasw> it's unnecessary server load
[2007-06-13T14:35:03+00:00] <White_Cat> not really
[2007-06-13T14:35:16+00:00] <Martinp23> [[WP:REDIRECT]].... springs to mind, I'm afraid
[2007-06-13T14:35:16+00:00] <unilinky> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WP:REDIRECT?redirect=no
[2007-06-13T14:35:26+00:00] <White_Cat> they are redlinks not redirects
[2007-06-13T14:35:32+00:00] <White_Cat> and I want to alter how they redirect
[2007-06-13T14:35:42+00:00] <White_Cat> I want to sort my sigs by year
[2007-06-13T14:35:58+00:00] <White_Cat> that way I can check debates I participated by year
[2007-06-13T14:36:10+00:00] <valhallasw> create a toolserver script for that
[2007-06-13T14:36:16+00:00] <valhallasw> oh wait
[2007-06-13T14:36:17+00:00] <valhallasw> en.wp
[2007-06-13T14:36:21+00:00] <White_Cat> Exactly
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[2007-06-13T14:36:32+00:00] <valhallasw> then wait two weeks and create a script :P
[2007-06-13T14:36:41+00:00] <Martinp23> My refernce to that was to say "just make a redirect from your old pages to your new".  I don't like the idea of changing sigs, under any circumstances....
[2007-06-13T14:36:43+00:00] <ST47> So, create a script for that in
[2007-06-13T14:36:46+00:00] <ST47> yeah
[2007-06-13T14:36:59+00:00] <White_Cat> ST47 I dont want to
[2007-06-13T14:37:00+00:00] <ST47> Or a redirect
[2007-06-13T14:37:12+00:00] <valhallasw> indeed, there is no reason not to just create a redirect
[2007-06-13T14:37:14+00:00] <White_Cat> I dont want a redirect or let me rephrase
[2007-06-13T14:37:18+00:00] <White_Cat> I want to alter the redirect
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[2007-06-13T14:37:26+00:00] <ST47> Changing all your sigs is NOT an option
[2007-06-13T14:37:32+00:00] <ST47> there.
[2007-06-13T14:37:36+00:00] <White_Cat> oh I'll do it eventualy ST47
[2007-06-13T14:37:37+00:00] <valhallasw> your sigs link to User:Coolcat
[2007-06-13T14:37:41+00:00] <valhallasw> right?
[2007-06-13T14:37:48+00:00] <valhallasw> so redirect that to User:White_Cat
[2007-06-13T14:37:49+00:00] <White_Cat> and [[User:Cool Cat]]
[2007-06-13T14:37:49+00:00] <unilinky> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Cool_Cat?redirect=no
[2007-06-13T14:37:50+00:00] <ST47> food done
[2007-06-13T14:37:52+00:00] <White_Cat> valhallasw NO
[2007-06-13T14:37:56+00:00] <ST47> YES
[2007-06-13T14:38:01+00:00] <valhallasw> because?
[2007-06-13T14:38:04+00:00] <White_Cat> it was deleted via mfd
[2007-06-13T14:38:10+00:00] <valhallasw> the redirect?
[2007-06-13T14:38:15+00:00] <White_Cat> yes
[2007-06-13T14:38:20+00:00] <Martinp23> why?
[2007-06-13T14:38:20+00:00] <valhallasw> because?
[2007-06-13T14:38:22+00:00] <White_Cat> some idiot repetively recreated it
[2007-06-13T14:38:39+00:00] <White_Cat> my userpsace is my problem thats why
[2007-06-13T14:38:42+00:00] <Martinp23> well, it should exist...
[2007-06-13T14:38:46+00:00] <White_Cat> bah pointless to discuss this with you
[2007-06-13T14:38:49+00:00] <valhallasw> no
[2007-06-13T14:38:51+00:00] <Martinp23> maybe :)
[2007-06-13T14:38:53+00:00] <White_Cat> I dictate weather it should or not
[2007-06-13T14:39:01+00:00] <White_Cat> my userpage isnt critical
[2007-06-13T14:39:20+00:00] <White_Cat> its my problem
[2007-06-13T14:39:43+00:00] <Lcarsdata> White_Cat: What is your reason for wanting to change all your sigs?
[2007-06-13T14:39:43+00:00] <valhallasw> I honestly still don't understand what the problem of a redirect is
[2007-06-13T14:39:46+00:00] <White_Cat> if we cant agree on at least this much, no reason to even discuss anything on the matter
[2007-06-13T14:40:09+00:00] <White_Cat> valhallasw because I want to establish myself as "User:White Cat"
[2007-06-13T14:40:11+00:00] <Lcarsdata> White_Cat: I might be able to help, what is your reason?
[2007-06-13T14:40:16+00:00] <valhallasw> yes
[2007-06-13T14:40:25+00:00] <White_Cat> Lcarsdata the short answer is "I'd like that"
[2007-06-13T14:40:42+00:00] <Lcarsdata> White_Cat: AWB?
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[2007-06-13T14:41:03+00:00] <White_Cat> long answer is "there are people stalking me and the change would help me better see people referancing me"
[2007-06-13T14:41:09+00:00] <ST47> it's too controversial for AWB
[2007-06-13T14:41:20+00:00] <White_Cat> it isnt conroversial at all
[2007-06-13T14:41:26+00:00] <White_Cat> [[Kurdistan]] is controversial
[2007-06-13T14:41:27+00:00] <unilinky> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Kurdistan?redirect=no
[2007-06-13T14:41:30+00:00] <White_Cat> this is maintanance
[2007-06-13T14:41:42+00:00] <Lcarsdata> White_Cat: You could use AWB to do it, simply visit every [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Cool_cat]] using AWB and set a regex to change the sig
[2007-06-13T14:41:42+00:00] <unilinky> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Cool_cat?redirect=no
[2007-06-13T14:41:46+00:00] <ST47> Then why did I deny the bot? Why are there 3 topic at WP:AN? Why is an ADMIN reverting the edits?
[2007-06-13T14:41:54+00:00] <White_Cat> Lcarsdata if I do that I'll be blocked
[2007-06-13T14:42:00+00:00] <Lcarsdata> White_Cat: why?
[2007-06-13T14:42:09+00:00] <valhallasw> no, this is adding 1K edits for something that is not essential for wikipedia
[2007-06-13T14:42:11+00:00] <White_Cat> becuase editing archives is something we must never do
[2007-06-13T14:42:27+00:00] <Lcarsdata> White_Cat: Then how is it possible to change your signature project wide then?
[2007-06-13T14:42:32+00:00] <ST47> Lcarsdata, because the edits are unnecessary?
[2007-06-13T14:42:36+00:00] <ST47> Lcarsdata, it isn't
[2007-06-13T14:42:44+00:00] <White_Cat> Lcarsdata well
[2007-06-13T14:42:44+00:00] <valhallasw> Lcarsdata: not, except when using a template
[2007-06-13T14:42:48+00:00] <Lcarsdata> White_Cat, ST47: bot account?
[2007-06-13T14:42:48+00:00] <valhallasw> which is a crime on en.wp, too, iirc
[2007-06-13T14:42:49+00:00] <White_Cat> that was what I was threatened with
[2007-06-13T14:42:51+00:00] <Martinp23> Why should one ever, reasonably, need to change their sig?
[2007-06-13T14:43:05+00:00] <ST47> Lcarsdata, that bot would never be approved
[2007-06-13T14:43:07+00:00] <valhallasw> 16:41 < White_Cat> long answer is "there are people stalking me and the change would help me better see people referancing me"
[2007-06-13T14:43:07+00:00] <_syphilis_> if you think you need to change your signature, it's too complicated
[2007-06-13T14:43:13+00:00] <White_Cat> Martinp23 because they feel like it is more than adequate
[2007-06-13T14:43:23+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Martinp23: Busy?
[2007-06-13T14:43:27+00:00] <White_Cat> its been frequently done
[2007-06-13T14:43:38+00:00] <White_Cat> ST47 you may not know about this but people frequently alter their sigs
[2007-06-13T14:43:45+00:00] <ST47> If people are stalking you, you can abandon your account and make another
[2007-06-13T14:43:50+00:00] <ST47> And that argument sucks.
[2007-06-13T14:43:54+00:00] <White_Cat> ST47 I refuse to do that
[2007-06-13T14:44:16+00:00] <ST47> It doesn't work on AFD, it doesn't work against spam links, it doesn't work here
[2007-06-13T14:44:21+00:00] <White_Cat> I am not going to dump my entire wiki-bonds simply because a troll forces me to
[2007-06-13T14:44:22+00:00] <Martinp23> Lcarsdata: Not very, but I'll have enough free time this weekend to either boot into windows and sort it, or get mono working... (I'll also need to find the source, I think :))
[2007-06-13T14:44:27+00:00] <_syphilis_> do you think that changing your account name and editing every signature will stop people "stalking" you?
[2007-06-13T14:44:31+00:00] <Martinp23> Lcarsdata: But keep poking me :)
[2007-06-13T14:44:40+00:00] <White_Cat> _syphilis_ no
[2007-06-13T14:44:41+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Martinp23: Okay, thanks :)
[2007-06-13T14:44:49+00:00] <White_Cat> but it would let me better see it
[2007-06-13T14:45:01+00:00] <White_Cat> Pathoschild does this
[2007-06-13T14:45:07+00:00] <White_Cat> slowly but surely
[2007-06-13T14:45:12+00:00] <White_Cat> 10-20 edits per day
[2007-06-13T14:45:23+00:00] <White_Cat> er week
[2007-06-13T14:45:32+00:00] <White_Cat> he has ceased doing it for a while
[2007-06-13T14:45:39+00:00] <valhallasw> what did he do then
[2007-06-13T14:46:15+00:00] <White_Cat> he altered all sigs of "User:Pathoschild" to "User:Pathoschild/sig"
[2007-06-13T14:46:25+00:00] <White_Cat> or at least thats what he was doing
[2007-06-13T14:46:36+00:00] <valhallasw> ah, to a template
[2007-06-13T14:46:44+00:00] <White_Cat> many people altered their sigs to remove their real name
[2007-06-13T14:47:04+00:00] <White_Cat> I want my sigs to link to stuff like User:White Cat/07 /06 /05
[2007-06-13T14:47:08+00:00] <White_Cat> ddepending on my edit
[2007-06-13T14:47:39+00:00] <valhallasw> changing sigs to remove real names seems more reasonable to me than changing from one nick to another
[2007-06-13T14:49:25+00:00] <White_Cat> I dont see a diference
[2007-06-13T14:50:35+00:00] <valhallasw> maybe that's the problem then
[2007-06-13T14:50:50+00:00] <valhallasw> most people do not see a need to change signatures
[2007-06-13T14:52:21+00:00] <White_Cat> valhallasw talking to the devs the number of edits in question arent that many
[2007-06-13T14:52:26+00:00] <White_Cat> 1000 edits isnt that many
[2007-06-13T14:52:30+00:00] <valhallasw> true
[2007-06-13T14:52:41+00:00] <White_Cat> so it isnt a big waste
[2007-06-13T14:52:47+00:00] <valhallasw> but each unnecessary edit is one ;)
[2007-06-13T14:52:58+00:00] <ST47> This isn't a performance problem.
[2007-06-13T14:53:03+00:00] <ST47> Not totally.
[2007-06-13T14:53:06+00:00] <White_Cat> not at all
[2007-06-13T14:53:14+00:00] <White_Cat> so whats the problem?
[2007-06-13T14:53:15+00:00] <Martinp23> It's a consensus issue.
[2007-06-13T14:53:20+00:00] <White_Cat> oh come on
[2007-06-13T14:53:23+00:00] <ST47> noone wants you to
[2007-06-13T14:53:23+00:00] <White_Cat> consensus is clear on this
[2007-06-13T14:53:24+00:00] <Martinp23> You need the approval of the community to run a bot.
[2007-06-13T14:53:30+00:00] <White_Cat> oh that
[2007-06-13T14:53:34+00:00] <valhallasw> so
[2007-06-13T14:53:36+00:00] <White_Cat> Martinp23 I want to do thse without a bot
[2007-06-13T14:53:44+00:00] <valhallasw> edit them by hand :D
[2007-06-13T14:53:50+00:00] <White_Cat> I am not allowed to
[2007-06-13T14:53:55+00:00] <White_Cat> I will be banned for doing so
[2007-06-13T14:53:56+00:00] <valhallasw> because?
[2007-06-13T14:54:01+00:00] <White_Cat> one admin ruled to that end
[2007-06-13T14:54:15+00:00] <White_Cat> there is no consensus in prohibating manual edits
[2007-06-13T14:54:21+00:00] <valhallasw> and he is allowed to do that?
[2007-06-13T14:54:25+00:00] <ST47> Because it's against policy and it's disruptive
[2007-06-13T14:55:42+00:00] <ST47> I've been arguing with you about it for 30 minutes, that is disruptive. An admin has threatened to block you, has reverted you, that is disruptive.
[2007-06-13T14:56:31+00:00] <White_Cat> valhallasw no he is not
[2007-06-13T14:56:37+00:00] <ST47> Edit the encyclopedia like any other user does.
[2007-06-13T14:57:02+00:00] <White_Cat> ST47 it isnt agains policy
[2007-06-13T14:57:14+00:00] <White_Cat> as Gruntness demosntrated
[2007-06-13T14:57:30+00:00] <ST47> Really? 'Don't fix links to redirects that aren't broken'?
[2007-06-13T14:57:45+00:00] <ST47> You're just deleting and bypassing a redirect
[2007-06-13T14:58:09+00:00] <White_Cat> 'Don't fix links to redirects that aren't broken' does not apply to signatures
[2007-06-13T14:58:14+00:00] <Martinp23> It does.
[2007-06-13T14:58:17+00:00] <ST47> 'The burden of proof is on the bot operator to establish that a bot is useful, not a server hog'
[2007-06-13T14:58:30+00:00] <ST47> White_Cat, now you're pulling stuff out of your head
[2007-06-13T14:58:32+00:00] <ST47> Why the hell not
[2007-06-13T14:58:53+00:00] <White_Cat> ST47 these arent bot related anymore
[2007-06-13T14:59:00+00:00] <White_Cat> Martinp23 no it doesnt
[2007-06-13T14:59:02+00:00] <ST47> No, let's talk about redirects
[2007-06-13T14:59:09+00:00] <White_Cat> lets not
[2007-06-13T14:59:19+00:00] <ST47> Why doesn't policy apply to you?
[2007-06-13T14:59:24+00:00] <White_Cat> I am off of this discussion as it is as productive as talking to a wall
[2007-06-13T14:59:53+00:00] <ST47> Yeah, I've been getting that idea, except the wall is talking back to me.
[2007-06-13T14:59:57+00:00] <ST47> Enjoy.
[2007-06-13T15:02:33+00:00] <valhallasw> now let's go back to useful things
[2007-06-13T15:04:10+00:00] <White_Cat> ok
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[2007-06-13T15:05:15+00:00] <_syphilis_> (and it even works on solaris, since it's written in java :)
[2007-06-13T15:05:21+00:00] <valhallasw> nice :)
[2007-06-13T15:08:49+00:00] <_syphilis_> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kate&curid=707357&diff=137902203&oldid=133607199 < what the fuck
[2007-06-13T15:09:40+00:00] <valhallasw> right.
[2007-06-13T15:10:50+00:00] <ST47> NRAH!]
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[2007-06-13T15:11:27+00:00] <valhallasw> oi! keep people alive!
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[2007-06-13T15:13:18+00:00] <valhallasw> automagically?
[2007-06-13T15:13:48+00:00] <ST47> Well, I think the first 3 crashed and it's just the screen that's still running :(
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[2007-06-13T15:13:56+00:00] <valhallasw> :o
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[2007-06-13T15:16:13+00:00] <valhallasw> Martinp23: why did you revert White_Cat?
[2007-06-13T15:16:26+00:00] <White_Cat> I asked him to
[2007-06-13T15:16:31+00:00] <White_Cat> blame is mine
[2007-06-13T15:16:35+00:00] <valhallasw> okay
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[2007-06-13T15:16:50+00:00] <valhallasw> and what are you going to do when everything is reverted...?
[2007-06-13T15:16:54+00:00] <Martinp23> blame is mine for doing it without engaging brain :P
[2007-06-13T15:17:04+00:00] <valhallasw> Martinp23: lol.
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[2007-06-13T15:17:28+00:00] <White_Cat> valhallasw at the moment nothing to archive pages
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[2007-06-13T15:29:09+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Why do I ocasionally find myself running two instances of postdrop and sendmail when I have never used such things?
[2007-06-13T15:29:31+00:00] <valhallasw> scripts that send mail?
[2007-06-13T15:29:45+00:00] <_syphilis_> cron
[2007-06-13T15:29:53+00:00] <DaB|Laptop> hello all
[2007-06-13T15:29:55+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: it uses it the entire time?
[2007-06-13T15:29:57+00:00] <Lcarsdata> DaB|Laptop: Hi!
[2007-06-13T15:29:58+00:00] <_syphilis_> sendmail sends mail, postdrop is the postfix mail delivery process
[2007-06-13T15:30:17+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: So cron starts sendmail and postdrop when it starts a thing?
[2007-06-13T15:30:31+00:00] <Lcarsdata> valhallasw: I never received any mail from the script.
[2007-06-13T15:30:51+00:00] <_syphilis_> Lcarsdata: probably
[2007-06-13T15:30:56+00:00] <Lcarsdata> okay,
[2007-06-13T15:31:11+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: Is there anyway to see what a cronjob is doing while it is running?
[2007-06-13T15:31:22+00:00] <_syphilis_> crontobs should be short, if you start something long-running, background it
[2007-06-13T15:31:29+00:00] <_syphilis_> Lcarsdata: not really
[2007-06-13T15:31:40+00:00] <_syphilis_> you could run the program under screen
[2007-06-13T15:31:45+00:00] <_syphilis_> screen -d -m /some/program
[2007-06-13T15:31:46+00:00] <Lcarsdata> pfft
[2007-06-13T15:32:23+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I wanted the programs to run regularly...
[2007-06-13T15:33:32+00:00] <Lcarsdata> What does the TIME+ column in top refer to?
[2007-06-13T15:33:34+00:00] <_syphilis_> yes, you use screen -d -m in the cron job
[2007-06-13T15:33:39+00:00] <_syphilis_> CPU time the process has used
[2007-06-13T15:33:45+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: cool
[2007-06-13T15:33:50+00:00] <Lcarsdata> CPU time...
[2007-06-13T15:34:42+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: What do I set /some/program as?
[2007-06-13T15:34:49+00:00] <_syphilis_> the program you want to run
[2007-06-13T15:35:02+00:00] <Lcarsdata> oh, ok
[2007-06-13T15:35:50+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: Can that be a python script, or does that have to have to be an executable
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[2007-06-13T15:36:19+00:00] <_syphilis_> a python script is an executable
[2007-06-13T15:36:34+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ok.....
[2007-06-13T15:37:23+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: So like this? 0 12 * * 3 screen -d -m python /home/robert/pywikipedia/weblinkchecker.py -lang:en -family:wikipedia
[2007-06-13T15:37:37+00:00] <_syphilis_> yes
[2007-06-13T15:37:50+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ok, thanks
[2007-06-13T15:40:33+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Is there anyway to calculate how long a program has been running for?
[2007-06-13T15:41:19+00:00] <LeonWP> _syphilis_, did you change anything on hemlock relating my rrdtool-script, rrdtool itself or bash?
[2007-06-13T15:41:31+00:00] <LeonWP> on monday or tuesday
[2007-06-13T15:41:55+00:00] <LeonWP> s/script/scripts
[2007-06-13T15:42:25+00:00] <_syphilis_> LeonWP: several days ago i changed /bin/sh to be "dash" instead of "bash"
[2007-06-13T15:42:48+00:00] <_syphilis_> (dash is a smaller shell suitable for scripting)
[2007-06-13T15:43:33+00:00] <LeonWP> hm, I'm using #!/bin/bash explicitely in my scripts, so this shouldn't matter
[2007-06-13T15:43:50+00:00] <_syphilis_> nothing else about that should have changed
[2007-06-13T15:43:57+00:00] <_syphilis_> what is the problem?
[2007-06-13T15:44:15+00:00] <ST47> quick question. interwiki.py, will it edit with any bots in my user-config, or do I somehow have to specify which languages to edit?
[2007-06-13T15:44:30+00:00] <LeonWP> hm. it's just because I'm getting one mail per minute from cron which tells that rrdtool cries about some syntax errors in my scripts
[2007-06-13T15:44:46+00:00] <LeonWP> which I haven't touched for months
[2007-06-13T15:44:46+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ST47: python interwiki.py -lang:en -family:wikipedia
[2007-06-13T15:44:49+00:00] <_syphilis_> which script?
[2007-06-13T15:44:51+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ST47: python interwiki.py -lang:en -family:wikiquote
[2007-06-13T15:44:56+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ST47: python interwiki.py -lang:de -family:wikiquote
[2007-06-13T15:44:58+00:00] <Lcarsdata> e.g.
[2007-06-13T15:45:05+00:00] <DaB|Laptop> LeonWP: Perhaps rrdtool was updatet
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[2007-06-13T15:45:31+00:00] <ST47> But, I want it to run on pages in en, but if it stubmles across something to add to ja, I want it to fix it.
[2007-06-13T15:46:06+00:00] <LeonWP> it's ~/project/stats/replag/syncstat/grapher.sh
[2007-06-13T15:46:14+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ST47: Then add all the usernames to user-config.py and it will do that
[2007-06-13T15:46:15+00:00] <LeonWP> ~leon of course
[2007-06-13T15:46:23+00:00] <ST47> Ok, great
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[2007-06-13T15:46:37+00:00] <_syphilis_> LeonWP: what's the error?
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[2007-06-13T15:46:54+00:00] <LeonWP> ERROR: Unknown control code at the end of '     current: 370 queries/min \ '
[2007-06-13T15:47:04+00:00] <_syphilis_> that's weird
[2007-06-13T15:47:26+00:00] <_syphilis_> try removing the "\ "?  what is that for?
[2007-06-13T15:47:32+00:00] <LeonWP> heh: (17:46:15) <LogicBot> Sorry, LeonWP, I don't know anything about leon of course.
[2007-06-13T15:47:51+00:00] <LeonWP> line feed
[2007-06-13T15:48:02+00:00] <_syphilis_> the \ " i mean
[2007-06-13T15:48:06+00:00] <_syphilis_> \ followed by a space
[2007-06-13T15:48:37+00:00] <LeonWP> that is a line feed in rrdtool, afair
[2007-06-13T15:49:57+00:00] <LeonWP> let me try removing it
[2007-06-13T15:51:05+00:00] <LeonWP> hrhr
[2007-06-13T15:51:08+00:00] <LeonWP> works fine :)
[2007-06-13T15:56:13+00:00] <Lcarsdata> It is so annoying how top doesn't tell you what the program actually is doing, it just tells you what the program is.
[2007-06-13T15:56:28+00:00] <_syphilis_> what do you mean, what it's doing?
[2007-06-13T15:56:53+00:00] <Lcarsdata> like it just says python, doesn't say anything about running weblinkchecker.py
[2007-06-13T15:57:04+00:00] <_syphilis_> press 'c'
[2007-06-13T15:57:13+00:00] <Lcarsdata> nice
[2007-06-13T15:57:16+00:00] <Lcarsdata> thanks
[2007-06-13T16:03:53+00:00] <LeonWP> DaB|Laptop, so you updated rrdtool?
[2007-06-13T16:04:15+00:00] <_syphilis_> the last update was: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 02:18:22 +0100
[2007-06-13T16:04:19+00:00] <_syphilis_> that was an upgrade to 1.2.19
[2007-06-13T16:04:38+00:00] <LeonWP> hm, very wierd
[2007-06-13T16:04:48+00:00] <LeonWP> weird
[2007-06-13T16:05:56+00:00] <LeonWP> I'd be interested to know how rrdtool got the idea to suddenly reject my commands.
[2007-06-13T16:06:17+00:00] <valhallasw> :D
[2007-06-13T16:06:27+00:00] <valhallasw> because rrdtool is the automated BOFH?
[2007-06-13T16:06:37+00:00] <LeonWP> .oO(was this correct english? :o)
[2007-06-13T16:06:54+00:00] <valhallasw> eh?
[2007-06-13T16:06:55+00:00] <LeonWP> valhallasw, so you mean tomorrow I'll have to fix another script?
[2007-06-13T16:07:01+00:00] <valhallasw> probably ;)
[2007-06-13T16:07:06+00:00] <valhallasw> or, no not tomorrow
[2007-06-13T16:07:11+00:00] <valhallasw> in a few weeks
[2007-06-13T16:07:18+00:00] <valhallasw> when you least expect it ;)
[2007-06-13T16:07:18+00:00] <LeonWP> oh man
[2007-06-13T16:07:26+00:00] <LeonWP> well but cron will let me now
[2007-06-13T16:07:35+00:00] <valhallasw> :)
[2007-06-13T16:07:48+00:00] <valhallasw> now why is this working like... bad things
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[2007-06-13T16:15:00+00:00] <LeonWP> hrm, not only rrdtool changed its mind, also cron is now sending the output to me, even with &> /dev/null:
[2007-06-13T16:15:03+00:00] <LeonWP> @daily /home/leon/project/stats/cron-daily.sh &> /dev/null
[2007-06-13T16:15:18+00:00] <LeonWP> _syphilis_, could that be related to dash?
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[2007-06-13T16:15:37+00:00] <_syphilis_> &> is a csh construct, POSIX sh won't support it
[2007-06-13T16:15:43+00:00] <_syphilis_> use >/dev/null 2>&1
[2007-06-13T16:15:50+00:00] <LeonWP> ok
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[2007-06-13T16:16:36+00:00] <Lcarsdata> omg this is bad
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[2007-06-13T16:17:01+00:00] <Lcarsdata> in a few hourse I am going to recieve a few hundred megabytes email
[2007-06-13T16:17:16+00:00] <_syphilis_> the system will reject a mail of that size
[2007-06-13T16:17:25+00:00] <Lcarsdata> good :)
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[2007-06-13T16:18:08+00:00] <Lcarsdata> maybe not...
[2007-06-13T16:18:37+00:00] <LeonWP> _syphilis_, what is the limit?
[2007-06-13T16:18:55+00:00] <_syphilis_> 10240000 bytes
[2007-06-13T16:19:16+00:00] <_syphilis_> (slightly under 10MB)
[2007-06-13T16:19:25+00:00] <LeonWP> ok
[2007-06-13T16:20:01+00:00] <valhallasw> hurray for my interwiki tree generator
[2007-06-13T16:20:07+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: suppose I was to create a bash script that did 'screen' then 'python...' would I be able to see the python script
[2007-06-13T16:20:20+00:00] <_syphilis_> Lcarsdata: if it does 'screen python ....' then yes
[2007-06-13T16:20:27+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ok
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[2007-06-13T16:22:39+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Is this correct syntax for no output?
[2007-06-13T16:22:40+00:00] <Lcarsdata> 0 12 * * 3 >/dev/null 2>&1screen -d -m python /home/robert/pywikipedia/weblinkchecker.py
[2007-06-13T16:22:41+00:00] <Lcarsdata> 0 12 * * 3 >/dev/null 2>&1 screen -d -m python /home/robert/pywikipedia/weblinkchecker.py -lang:en -family:wikipedia
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[2007-06-13T16:27:04+00:00] <Lcarsdata> wb
[2007-06-13T16:27:06+00:00] <_syphilis_> you're missing a space, and you don't need to redirect anything there, but yes
[2007-06-13T16:27:19+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: redirect?
[2007-06-13T16:27:25+00:00] <_syphilis_> the >
[2007-06-13T16:27:30+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ahh,
[2007-06-13T16:27:36+00:00] <Lcarsdata> wait,
[2007-06-13T16:27:50+00:00] <Lcarsdata> won't this produce absolutely zero output even when viewed from screen?
[2007-06-13T16:27:59+00:00] <Lcarsdata> or maybe npt
[2007-06-13T16:28:06+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> *not
[2007-06-13T16:28:14+00:00] <_syphilis_> no, it will redirect the output of 'screen -d -m' to /dev/null
[2007-06-13T16:28:18+00:00] <valhallasw> *grin*
[2007-06-13T16:28:19+00:00] <_syphilis_> that command produces no output anyway
[2007-06-13T16:28:24+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ahh, ok
[2007-06-13T16:28:29+00:00] <valhallasw> http://tools.wikimedia.de/~valhallasw/iw.png <-- I may have forgotten my language codes *grin*
[2007-06-13T16:28:32+00:00] <Lcarsdata> so screen -r pid will give me some stuff
[2007-06-13T16:28:48+00:00] <Lcarsdata> valhallasw: indeed :P
[2007-06-13T16:29:06+00:00] <valhallasw> but at least my pywikipedia_ts works like a charm
[2007-06-13T16:29:18+00:00] <valhallasw> just use page.interwiki() and it will use the database :)
[2007-06-13T16:30:03+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: So I don't even need the dev null bit then...
[2007-06-13T16:30:10+00:00] <_syphilis_> no
[2007-06-13T16:30:13+00:00] <valhallasw> now how to I output unicode...
[2007-06-13T16:31:02+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: No to what?
[2007-06-13T16:31:08+00:00] <_syphilis_> < Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: So I don't even need the dev null bit then...
[2007-06-13T16:31:32+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I don't understand 'no' in that context, it could theoretically have two meanings.
[2007-06-13T16:31:44+00:00] <Lcarsdata> No, I don't need to...
[2007-06-13T16:31:50+00:00] <_syphilis_> you do not need the dev null bit
[2007-06-13T16:31:54+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Okay, thanks.
[2007-06-13T16:32:06+00:00] <ST47> but if you use /dev/null, it makes you feel cooler
[2007-06-13T16:32:09+00:00] <ST47> ;)
[2007-06-13T16:32:13+00:00] <Lcarsdata> true :D
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[2007-06-13T16:38:26+00:00] <valhallasw> http://tools.wikimedia.de/~valhallasw/uit.png there :)
[2007-06-13T16:38:33+00:00] <valhallasw> now just make it left to right 8)
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[2007-06-13T16:40:03+00:00] <valhallasw> hm, no jython on the toolserver
[2007-06-13T16:40:33+00:00] <_syphilis_> 2007-06-13 16:40:25 status installed jython 2.1.0-23
[2007-06-13T16:40:52+00:00] <valhallasw> :D
[2007-06-13T16:41:04+00:00] <valhallasw> thanks
[2007-06-13T16:42:48+00:00] <valhallasw> hum
[2007-06-13T16:42:56+00:00] <valhallasw> jython does not understand yield :'(
[2007-06-13T16:44:07+00:00] <_syphilis_> Hello River,
[2007-06-13T16:44:08+00:00] <_syphilis_> The drive in SLOT 6 I would not worry about, But the drive in Slot2 Target ALERT: Gross Phase/Signal Error Detected this is the signal quality is failing. This drive is due to fail soon.
[2007-06-13T16:44:19+00:00] <_syphilis_> akl: here? :)
[2007-06-13T16:44:29+00:00] <akl> _syphilis_: yep
[2007-06-13T16:44:50+00:00] <_syphilis_> akl: can we make a warranty claim on one of the drives in zedler's array? (see above)
[2007-06-13T16:45:50+00:00] <akl> sure, can you send me some more details via email? i need to figure out, where we bought it
[2007-06-13T16:45:56+00:00] <_syphilis_> ok
[2007-06-13T16:47:23+00:00] <_syphilis_> akl@wikimedia.de?
[2007-06-13T16:50:50+00:00] <ST47> :(
[2007-06-13T16:53:16+00:00] <akl> _syphilis_: yep
[2007-06-13T16:53:47+00:00] <_syphilis_> hmm
[2007-06-13T16:53:54+00:00] <_syphilis_> there's a "submit an RMA" link on their website
[2007-06-13T16:54:01+00:00] <_syphilis_> maybe we can get a replacement directly from infortrend
[2007-06-13T16:54:39+00:00] <akl> try it, if you want. just keep me posted
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[2007-06-13T17:11:37+00:00] <_syphilis_> akl: i guess it was 3yr warranty?
[2007-06-13T17:12:41+00:00] <akl> dunno, need to check it. but i can't do that before tomorrow
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[2007-06-13T17:57:33+00:00] <Filnik> hello
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[2007-06-13T18:03:18+00:00] <Bryan> !replag
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[2007-06-13T18:03:33+00:00] <Filnik> ST47: can you make some tests in it.wiki, please? :)
[2007-06-13T18:03:36+00:00] <Filnik> (with the bot)
[2007-06-13T18:03:42+00:00] <ST47> Yeah, sure
[2007-06-13T18:03:51+00:00] <Filnik> ST47: not a lot eh :)
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[2007-06-13T18:04:28+00:00] <ST47> becasue he can't read any of them
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[2007-06-13T18:07:22+00:00] <Filnik> ST47: :)
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[2007-06-13T18:11:02+00:00] <ST47> back in 10 to check on the bot
[2007-06-13T18:15:03+00:00] <siebrand> !replag
[2007-06-13T18:15:03+00:00] <replagbot> siebrand: s2: 0d 0h 5m 27s (327s) [+219s in 705s]; s3: 1d 22h 53m 11s (168791s) [+470s in 705s]; s1: 133d 21h 46m 56s (11569616s) [+704s in 705s]
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[2007-06-13T18:16:27+00:00] <Filnik> ST47: going to see :)
[2007-06-13T18:16:34+00:00] <ST47> [[w:it:Speciale:Contributi/STBot]]
[2007-06-13T18:16:35+00:00] <unilinky> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/w:it:Speciale:Contributi/STBot?redirect=no
[2007-06-13T18:16:44+00:00] <Filnik> ST47: perfect :)
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[2007-06-13T18:17:14+00:00] <Filnik> ST47: good :)
[2007-06-13T18:17:19+00:00] <ST47> :)
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[2007-06-13T18:17:35+00:00] <Filnik> *writes
[2007-06-13T18:17:46+00:00] <Filnik> reload hu
[2007-06-13T18:17:47+00:00] <ST47> oh yeah, you're the weird +1/-1 vote people
[2007-06-13T18:17:52+00:00] <Filnik> ops
[2007-06-13T18:18:06+00:00] <Filnik> wrong screen :)
[2007-06-13T18:18:33+00:00] <Filnik> ST47: yep
[2007-06-13T18:22:14+00:00] <ST47> Yey, I get to do a trial on sv now!
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[2007-06-13T18:30:06+00:00] <stv> hello tsca2 :)
[2007-06-13T18:30:46+00:00] <_syphilis_> is ircing from hemlock the new fad? :)
[2007-06-13T18:31:12+00:00] <tsca2> hello
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[2007-06-13T18:33:24+00:00] <GChriss> does zedler allow SSH shells for non-admins?
[2007-06-13T18:33:30+00:00] <_syphilis_> no
[2007-06-13T18:33:40+00:00] <GChriss> ok, just checking
[2007-06-13T18:34:00+00:00] <GChriss> thanks
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[2007-06-13T19:22:12+00:00] <Filnik> Ehm, can i put an irc bot in my toolserver folder? (less then 10mb :) )
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[2007-06-13T19:22:22+00:00] <_syphilis_> yes, as long as it's related to wikimedia
[2007-06-13T19:22:37+00:00] <Filnik> _syphilis_: yep, for #wiktionary-it channel :)
[2007-06-13T19:22:40+00:00] <Filnik> thank you :)
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[2007-06-13T19:29:26+00:00] <_syphilis_> hm, apparently i wakeup after infortrend go to sleep
[2007-06-13T19:29:30+00:00] <_syphilis_> this could be a long conversation :)
[2007-06-13T19:32:21+00:00] <valhallasw> :D
[2007-06-13T19:34:36+00:00] <Bryan> Filnik: an irc bot of 10 MB ?
[2007-06-13T19:34:50+00:00] <Bryan> wtf have you been programming...
[2007-06-13T19:34:54+00:00] <Bryan> :P
[2007-06-13T19:35:09+00:00] <Filnik> Bryan: :D i've made an error, 10mb is the entire package :D
[2007-06-13T19:35:17+00:00] <Filnik> the bot is less then 1mb :D
[2007-06-13T19:35:35+00:00] <DaB|Laptop> and 9MB documentation? ;)
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[2007-06-13T19:35:46+00:00] <valhallasw> ARGH
[2007-06-13T19:35:48+00:00] <valhallasw> stupid
[2007-06-13T19:35:51+00:00] <valhallasw> windows
[2007-06-13T19:35:53+00:00] <Filnik> DaB|Laptop: no, other framework that i still don't know how to use :D
[2007-06-13T19:35:58+00:00] <Filnik> valhallasw: i quote :D
[2007-06-13T19:36:05+00:00] <valhallasw> it *detects* raid1 drives in winXP
[2007-06-13T19:36:16+00:00] <valhallasw> but unless you hack some files you cant access them
[2007-06-13T19:36:21+00:00] <valhallasw> not even as single drives
[2007-06-13T19:36:45+00:00] <DaB|Laptop> no driver, no idea ;)
[2007-06-13T19:37:05+00:00] <valhallasw> well, it has an idea
[2007-06-13T19:37:09+00:00] <_syphilis_> that's one reason i like SVM RAID.  you can treat one side of the mirror as a perfectly normal dik
[2007-06-13T19:37:12+00:00] <_syphilis_> no annoying extra metadata
[2007-06-13T19:37:21+00:00] <valhallasw> yeah
[2007-06-13T19:37:36+00:00] <valhallasw> probably I can use one disc as single disc in a non-windows-pc
[2007-06-13T19:37:46+00:00] <valhallasw> disk? disc? w/e
[2007-06-13T19:37:52+00:00] <_syphilis_> disk :)
[2007-06-13T19:37:59+00:00] <DaB|Laptop> Festplatte ;)
[2007-06-13T19:38:10+00:00] <_syphilis_> discs are circular (compact disc, hard disk)
[2007-06-13T19:38:31+00:00] <valhallasw> then why is it disk :p
[2007-06-13T19:38:43+00:00] <valhallasw> argh, syncing 40GB over IDE is not cool
[2007-06-13T19:39:25+00:00] <valhallasw> okay
[2007-06-13T19:40:18+00:00] <valhallasw> at least the repair backup of the registry is readable
[2007-06-13T19:40:38+00:00] <valhallasw> and older than yesterday
[2007-06-13T19:41:13+00:00] <valhallasw> now I need to learn JUNG :)
[2007-06-13T19:41:55+00:00] <valhallasw> (and I still need a way to detect which links have been added by a bot and which ones havent :S)
[2007-06-13T19:42:02+00:00] <valhallasw> (langlinks)
[2007-06-13T19:42:18+00:00] <valhallasw> edit summary analysis is evil ;)
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[2007-06-13T19:42:43+00:00] <erwin85> Are you still working on those interwiki links?
[2007-06-13T19:42:47+00:00] <valhallasw> yep
[2007-06-13T19:43:07+00:00] <valhallasw> http://tools.wikimedia.de/~valhallasw/uit.png <-- intermediate result
[2007-06-13T19:43:19+00:00] <valhallasw> and erwin85, you might like the fact wikipedia_ts.py is done ;)
[2007-06-13T19:43:31+00:00] <valhallasw> i.e. wikipedia.py as database querier
[2007-06-13T19:43:39+00:00] <siebrand> draait
[2007-06-13T19:43:46+00:00] <valhallasw> ?
[2007-06-13T19:43:46+00:00] <siebrand> oops, wls.
[2007-06-13T19:43:59+00:00] <valhallasw> :)
[2007-06-13T19:44:02+00:00] <DaB|Laptop> wls?
[2007-06-13T19:44:08+00:00] <siebrand> wrong line syndrom
[2007-06-13T19:44:30+00:00] <erwin85> What do you need the database for then? Most of wikipedia.py's functions are about getting or editing a page.
[2007-06-13T19:44:42+00:00] <valhallasw> erwin85: not at all
[2007-06-13T19:45:56+00:00] <valhallasw> templatePages, imagelinks, getReferences, getVersionHistory, categories, linkedPages, templates, interwiki, isRedirectPage, latestRevision, exists, fullVersionHistory, isEmpty
[2007-06-13T19:46:03+00:00] <valhallasw> and it gets pages through wikiproxy
[2007-06-13T19:46:11+00:00] <erwin85> You've got a point there.
[2007-06-13T19:46:23+00:00] <valhallasw> but it was mainly meant as an easy database frontend for the toolserver
[2007-06-13T19:47:29+00:00] <valhallasw> e.g. Page.interwiki() is easier than cursor.execute("select * from langlinks where ll_from = (select page_id from page where (...)", <vars>)
[2007-06-13T19:47:53+00:00] <DaB|Laptop> wow. One page of "top" shows me 5 different programm-languages. perl, php, python, java and mono. Perhaps we need a statistic ;)
[2007-06-13T19:48:06+00:00] <valhallasw> :D
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[2007-06-13T19:53:36+00:00] <_syphilis_> Betacommand: do you actually intend to run 15 copies of nrdlogger?
[2007-06-13T19:54:20+00:00] <valhallasw> python wins in number of .py files
[2007-06-13T19:54:31+00:00] <valhallasw> probably because of two dozen pywikipedia installs
[2007-06-13T19:55:42+00:00] <valhallasw> hm, drops from 1241 to 968
[2007-06-13T19:59:36+00:00] <erwin85> Just use symbolic links and only one pywikipedia install :)
[2007-06-13T19:59:56+00:00] <valhallasw> makes it hard to edit
[2007-06-13T20:00:20+00:00] <Betacommand> _syphilis_: yes
[2007-06-13T20:00:26+00:00] <_syphilis_> ok
[2007-06-13T20:02:56+00:00] <Betacommand> _syphilis_: Im checking 350,000 images and each copy is checking 25k of those
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[2007-06-13T20:53:01+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: Would you happen to know how I can make xml documents be parsed by php?
[2007-06-13T20:55:27+00:00] <Dodek> Lcarsdata, try SimpleXML (PHP5)
[2007-06-13T20:55:47+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Dodek: I meant make php by sent out as a .xml file
[2007-06-13T20:56:34+00:00] <Dodek> hm, i don't know what you're thinking about.
[2007-06-13T20:56:50+00:00] <Lcarsdata> .htaccess
[2007-06-13T20:56:57+00:00] <_syphilis_> header("Content-Type: text/xml;charset=UTF-8");
[2007-06-13T20:57:26+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: thanks
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[2007-06-13T21:07:05+00:00] <TheLetterE> Hi
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[2007-06-13T21:08:14+00:00] <_syphilis_> what
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[2007-06-13T21:08:27+00:00] <_syphilis_> ?
[2007-06-13T21:08:28+00:00] <TheLetterE> Hello there
[2007-06-13T21:08:44+00:00] <TheLetterE> I am a new person to the toolserv
[2007-06-13T21:08:49+00:00] <TheLetterE> (~E)
[2007-06-13T21:08:49+00:00] <_syphilis_> yes
[2007-06-13T21:09:01+00:00] <TheLetterE> and I seem to have forgotten my SSH passphrase
[2007-06-13T21:09:07+00:00] <TheLetterE> and may require a key change
[2007-06-13T21:09:11+00:00] <_syphilis_> already?
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[2007-06-13T21:09:19+00:00] <_syphilis_> you haven't even logged in yet
[2007-06-13T21:09:23+00:00] <TheLetterE> Its been awhile since I made the key
[2007-06-13T21:09:32+00:00] <TheLetterE> Sorry :P
[2007-06-13T21:10:18+00:00] <_syphilis_> please reply to the welcome mail (preserve the cc) and attach a new key
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[2007-06-13T21:11:48+00:00] <TheLetterE> OK, thanks for your help, I'll do that now
[2007-06-13T21:13:18+00:00] <TheLetterE> I'll have to head off to work soon, so I'll send the email and then I'll scurry away.
[2007-06-13T21:20:07+00:00] <TheLetterE> Email sent, farewell.
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[2007-06-13T21:26:25+00:00] <_syphilis_> _Duesentrieb_: are you here?
[2007-06-13T21:26:41+00:00] <_Duesentrieb_> yea
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[2007-06-13T21:26:53+00:00] <_syphilis_> is toolserver.namespace yours?  https://secure.wikimedia.org/otrs/index.pl?Action=AgentTicketZoom&TicketID=908988
[2007-06-13T21:27:34+00:00] <Duesentrieb> hm, guess so.
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[2007-06-13T21:28:29+00:00] <valhallasw> after restoring a registry backup, acrobat now thinkls Im running win2k sp0... while all the dlls are win2k sp4 :')
[2007-06-13T21:30:32+00:00] <Duesentrieb> _syphilis_: hm, how about removing the views for the three dk wikis?
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[2007-06-13T21:33:28+00:00] <_syphilis_> that seems reasonable
[2007-06-13T21:33:54+00:00] <valhallasw> are they dead?
[2007-06-13T21:34:03+00:00] <_syphilis_> there is no such language as dk
[2007-06-13T21:34:12+00:00] <valhallasw> right
[2007-06-13T21:34:22+00:00] <valhallasw> danish isnt dk?
[2007-06-13T21:34:26+00:00] <Duesentrieb> da is
[2007-06-13T21:34:26+00:00] <_syphilis_> no, da
[2007-06-13T21:34:28+00:00] <valhallasw> ah
[2007-06-13T21:34:30+00:00] <_syphilis_> dk is denmark
[2007-06-13T21:34:46+00:00] <valhallasw> yes
[2007-06-13T21:35:11+00:00] <valhallasw> however, nl is the language code for dutch.. and the code for the netherlands
[2007-06-13T21:35:28+00:00] <_syphilis_> isn't it the same word, nederlands?
[2007-06-13T21:35:42+00:00] <valhallasw> hm
[2007-06-13T21:35:43+00:00] <valhallasw> true
[2007-06-13T21:35:50+00:00] <valhallasw> nederlands, dansk
[2007-06-13T21:35:55+00:00] <valhallasw> sounds reasonable
[2007-06-13T21:36:10+00:00] <_syphilis_> anyway, it's stupid.  like uk/gb
[2007-06-13T21:36:19+00:00] <valhallasw> yes
[2007-06-13T21:36:53+00:00] <Duesentrieb> _syphilis_: tell that to the channel islands :)
[2007-06-13T21:37:18+00:00] <Duesentrieb> _syphilis_: so, should i drop the views? or will you?
[2007-06-13T21:37:25+00:00] <_syphilis_> i will
[2007-06-13T21:37:29+00:00] <_syphilis_> what about the other wikis there?
[2007-06-13T21:37:57+00:00] <Duesentrieb> oh, in the namespace table?
[2007-06-13T21:38:06+00:00] <_syphilis_> that's odd:
[2007-06-13T21:38:10+00:00] <_syphilis_> root@localhost:dkwikibooks_p> select max(rc_timestamp) from recentchanges\G
[2007-06-13T21:38:10+00:00] <_syphilis_> *************************** 1. row ***************************
[2007-06-13T21:38:10+00:00] <_syphilis_> max(rc_timestamp): 20070108225936
[2007-06-13T21:38:34+00:00] <_syphilis_> ah, some automated update probably
[2007-06-13T21:38:44+00:00] <Duesentrieb> perhaps
[2007-06-13T21:38:57+00:00] <Duesentrieb> which user?
[2007-06-13T21:39:20+00:00] <Duesentrieb> about the inconsistencies in the namespaces table: it wasn't updated when the wiki table was updated. so the new ones are missing. running an update now.
[2007-06-13T21:39:21+00:00] <_syphilis_> MediaWiki default :)
[2007-06-13T21:39:28+00:00] <Duesentrieb> good then.
[2007-06-13T21:39:43+00:00] <_syphilis_> added them to the mkdblist exclusion too, so they don't come back
[2007-06-13T21:39:58+00:00] <Duesentrieb> cool.
[2007-06-13T21:40:21+00:00] <Duesentrieb> hm, if automated updates are applied, that means they are still configured on wikimedia servers, right?
[2007-06-13T21:40:28+00:00] <Duesentrieb> just the domain isn't assigned?
[2007-06-13T21:40:30+00:00] <_syphilis_> yeah
[2007-06-13T21:40:35+00:00] <_syphilis_> asking about that now, i guess we should drop them
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[2007-06-13T21:40:43+00:00] <Duesentrieb> probably.
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[2007-06-13T22:04:42+00:00] <siebrand> ProgrammingError: (1146, "Table 'dkwiktionary_p.page' doesn't exist")
[2007-06-13T22:05:14+00:00] <_syphilis_> siebrand: fixed
[2007-06-13T22:05:22+00:00] <siebrand> _syphilis_: thanks
[2007-06-13T22:05:40+00:00] <siebrand> _syphilis_: CommonsDelinker gets all confused :)
[2007-06-13T22:08:33+00:00] <valhallasw> now
[2007-06-13T22:08:55+00:00] <valhallasw> let's edit toolserver.py again
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[2007-06-13T22:09:04+00:00] <valhallasw> I need some pattern matching :)
[2007-06-13T22:09:16+00:00] <_syphilis_> mv toolserver.py toolserver.java; vi toolserver.java
[2007-06-13T22:09:29+00:00] <valhallasw> ?
[2007-06-13T22:09:36+00:00] <_syphilis_> suggestion for how to edit it
[2007-06-13T22:09:37+00:00] <_syphilis_> :)
[2007-06-13T22:09:40+00:00] <valhallasw> ah.
[2007-06-13T22:10:19+00:00] <valhallasw> or I could abuse sort
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[2007-06-13T22:18:42+00:00] <alnokta> how do you guys upload files?
[2007-06-13T22:18:48+00:00] <_syphilis_> scp
[2007-06-13T22:19:04+00:00] <alnokta> :(
[2007-06-13T22:19:08+00:00] <alnokta> okay
[2007-06-13T22:19:12+00:00] <_syphilis_> or sftp (using lftp as an sftp client, it's pretty good)
[2007-06-13T22:19:56+00:00] <alnokta> does it have a gui?
[2007-06-13T22:20:04+00:00] <_syphilis_> no
[2007-06-13T22:20:33+00:00] <alnokta> ah, then scp is fine .. thanks
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[2007-06-13T22:20:47+00:00] <Duesentrieb> alnokta: which os?
[2007-06-13T22:21:02+00:00] <alnokta> ubuntu
[2007-06-13T22:21:04+00:00] <Duesentrieb> there are guis for scp/fish/sftp for pretty much any platform.
[2007-06-13T22:21:14+00:00] <_syphilis_> apt-get install lftp.  you might like it :)
[2007-06-13T22:21:17+00:00] <Duesentrieb> alnokta: kde has fish support build in.
[2007-06-13T22:21:33+00:00] <valhallasw> humdidum
[2007-06-13T22:21:42+00:00] <Duesentrieb> no idea about gnome, but there's very likely some gui.
[2007-06-13T22:21:43+00:00] <alnokta> kde .. noo
[2007-06-13T22:21:49+00:00] <valhallasw> xfce \\o
[2007-06-13T22:21:56+00:00] <Duesentrieb> maybe nautilus supports it or something.
[2007-06-13T22:21:56+00:00] <valhallasw> window manager wars :D
[2007-06-13T22:22:11+00:00] <Duesentrieb> valhallasw: kde and gnome are not window managers :)
[2007-06-13T22:22:18+00:00] <alnokta> not wars, the one that still work on p3
[2007-06-13T22:22:24+00:00] <valhallasw> desktop wars, okay
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[2007-06-13T22:22:54+00:00] <alnokta> :)
[2007-06-13T22:23:22+00:00] <valhallasw> oh god
[2007-06-13T22:23:31+00:00] <Duesentrieb> alnokta: simply try fish://tools.wikimedia.de/home/alnoka on whatever browser/explorer thingy you have
[2007-06-13T22:23:38+00:00] <valhallasw> I might as well write an entire tool to read interwiki comments >_<
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[2007-06-13T22:24:22+00:00] <valhallasw> SUL?
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[2007-06-13T22:24:28+00:00] <ST47> Sungle user login
[2007-06-13T22:24:31+00:00] <valhallasw> ah
[2007-06-13T22:24:43+00:00] <ST47> One login across all wikis, one watchlist, one new messages bar
[2007-06-13T22:24:50+00:00] <alnokta> bash: fish://tools.wikimedia.de/home/alnoka: No such file or directory
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[2007-06-13T22:24:56+00:00] <valhallasw> not gonna happen ;)
[2007-06-13T22:25:12+00:00] <_syphilis_> toolserver will never use SUL
[2007-06-13T22:25:36+00:00] <ST47> no, not even on toolserver
[2007-06-13T22:26:06+00:00] <_syphilis_> (except possibly if we get another login server, then you could log into both :)
[2007-06-13T22:26:13+00:00] <ST47> :)
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[2007-06-13T22:27:22+00:00] <_syphilis_> i eated it
[2007-06-13T22:27:26+00:00] <valhallasw> :O
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[2007-06-13T22:27:41+00:00] <valhallasw> give is back zie intorwebz!@
[2007-06-13T22:28:12+00:00] <valhallasw> ;)
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[2007-06-13T22:29:39+00:00] <Duesentrieb> alnokta: google for "ssh nautilus" - i'm pretty sure it suports it somehow.
[2007-06-13T22:29:55+00:00] <Duesentrieb> (but having remote files fully integrated into all apps is one of the cool things about kde..)
[2007-06-13T22:30:17+00:00] <_syphilis_> i thought that when i first tried kde, but then i never used that feature.
[2007-06-13T22:30:29+00:00] <_syphilis_> (possibly because i don't use gui file manager anyway)
[2007-06-13T22:31:00+00:00] <Duesentrieb> the longer i use linux, the less i use graphical tools for file-stuff :)
[2007-06-13T22:31:25+00:00] <valhallasw> mc still rocks though
[2007-06-13T22:31:31+00:00] <Duesentrieb> application scripting with dcop is pretty cool too, btw
[2007-06-13T22:31:41+00:00] <Duesentrieb> valhallasw: >_<
[2007-06-13T22:31:53+00:00] <Duesentrieb> it's konqueror or bash for me.
[2007-06-13T22:31:53+00:00] <valhallasw> I grew up with norton commander ;)
[2007-06-13T22:32:02+00:00] <Duesentrieb> so did i, in the dos days.
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[2007-06-13T22:32:28+00:00] <Duesentrieb> valhallasw: oh, give krusader a shot, if you use kde
[2007-06-13T22:32:39+00:00] <valhallasw> I only run linux in text mode
[2007-06-13T22:33:11+00:00] <Duesentrieb> haha! naw, i like my intarweb in color, thanks.
[2007-06-13T22:33:51+00:00] <_syphilis_> Duesentrieb: remember NS 3.x on pseudocolor displays with palette swiching? :)
[2007-06-13T22:37:26+00:00] <alnokta> Duesentrieb, thanks, found it, but i'm not using nautilus :)
[2007-06-13T22:37:55+00:00] <valhallasw> can I tell mysql to echo queries back?
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[2007-06-13T22:38:57+00:00] <ST47> Ni!
[2007-06-13T22:39:10+00:00] <alnokta> i use Thunar but it is still new
[2007-06-13T22:39:25+00:00] <alnokta> ST47, Al
[2007-06-13T22:39:53+00:00] <valhallasw> right, select \" query \"
[2007-06-13T22:39:57+00:00] <valhallasw> :')
[2007-06-13T22:43:08+00:00] <valhallasw> whoo.
[2007-06-13T22:43:35+00:00] <alnokta> is that a smile with tears?
[2007-06-13T22:43:47+00:00] <valhallasw> yes
[2007-06-13T22:44:44+00:00] <valhallasw> a face that doesnt know whether to laugh or to smile
[2007-06-13T22:45:32+00:00] <alnokta> eh, i thought they were the tears of happiness :P
[2007-06-13T22:45:42+00:00] <valhallasw> nah
[2007-06-13T22:45:55+00:00] <valhallasw> that would be too easy ;)
[2007-06-13T22:46:19+00:00] <valhallasw> Duesentrieb: ping?
[2007-06-13T22:53:27+00:00] <valhallasw> hm, nm
[2007-06-13T22:53:32+00:00] <valhallasw> running python unbuffered works
[2007-06-13T22:53:46+00:00] <valhallasw> even though that is evil :/
[2007-06-13T22:57:49+00:00] <valhallasw> time for bed
[2007-06-13T22:57:49+00:00] <valhallasw> gn
[2007-06-13T22:58:11+00:00] <alnokta> good night
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[2007-06-14T06:33:35+00:00] <Filnik> Hello
[2007-06-14T06:33:43+00:00] <Lcarsdata> hi
[2007-06-14T06:33:46+00:00] <TheLetterE> Hi
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[2007-06-14T08:28:57+00:00] <Bryan> have there been problems with mysql tonight?
[2007-06-14T08:31:41+00:00] <para> the graphs look as loaded as ever
[2007-06-14T08:33:46+00:00] <valhallasw> Bryan: scripts that failed after 4 retries? ;)
[2007-06-14T08:34:05+00:00] <Bryan> scripts that block for 6 hours... yes...
[2007-06-14T08:34:30+00:00] <valhallasw> wikipedia was down around midnight EST
[2007-06-14T08:34:38+00:00] <valhallasw> not 6 hours though
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[2007-06-14T08:44:59+00:00] <valhallasw> Bryan: do you have any clue as to why keyword expansion is not working in pywikipediabot cvs?
[2007-06-14T08:45:18+00:00] <Bryan> keyword expansion?
[2007-06-14T08:45:22+00:00] <Bryan> as in ** ?
[2007-06-14T08:45:26+00:00] <valhallasw> as in $Id: $
[2007-06-14T08:46:22+00:00] <Bryan> no, cvs
[2007-06-14T08:46:40+00:00] <valhallasw> ?
[2007-06-14T08:47:36+00:00] <Bryan> I believe cvs does not support that?
[2007-06-14T08:48:13+00:00] <valhallasw> I thought cvs was the first to implement it :)
[2007-06-14T08:48:46+00:00] <valhallasw> http://ximbiot.com/cvs/manual/cvs-1.11.13/cvs_12.html
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[2007-06-14T10:49:02+00:00] <ST47> Extranet is NOT here
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[2007-06-14T11:16:32+00:00] <byrial> mysql> UPDATE u_byrial.from_page, dawiki_p.page SET fp_toid = page_id WHERE fp_to = page_title AND page_namespace = 0;
[2007-06-14T11:16:32+00:00] <byrial> ERROR 1142 (42000): UPDATE command denied to user 'byrial'@'hemlock.ts-local' for table 'page'
[2007-06-14T11:16:32+00:00] <byrial> I do not understand this. The MySQL manual (http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/update.html) says that a multi table update only need SELECT privilege for any columns that are read but not modified. Any suggestions?
[2007-06-14T11:24:11+00:00] <valhallasw> byrial: you should use update u_byrial.from_page set (...)
[2007-06-14T11:24:13+00:00] <valhallasw> I think
[2007-06-14T11:25:08+00:00] <byrial> But I need to join with dawiki_p.page to find the needed data
[2007-06-14T11:25:47+00:00] <valhallasw> subquery?
[2007-06-14T11:28:30+00:00] <byrial> Good idea, thanks! I could use: UPDATE u_byrial.from_page SET fp_toid = (SELECT page_id FROM dawiki_p.page WHERE fp_to = page_title AND page_namespace = 0)
[2007-06-14T11:28:38+00:00] <valhallasw> yes, I think so
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[2007-06-14T13:55:16+00:00] <alnokta> nice..i've found a gui scp :)
[2007-06-14T14:09:01+00:00] <para> winscp is nice
[2007-06-14T14:11:38+00:00] <alnokta> para, in linux, its called secpanel
[2007-06-14T14:12:13+00:00] <para> now that's an odd name. why panel?
[2007-06-14T14:12:56+00:00] <alnokta> no idea :)
[2007-06-14T14:13:08+00:00] <alnokta> but it saved the passphrase
[2007-06-14T14:13:20+00:00] <alnokta> making it easier
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[2007-06-14T14:27:53+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Martinp23!
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[2007-06-14T14:29:37+00:00] <Martinp23> Lcarsdata!
[2007-06-14T14:30:07+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Martinp23: you told me to keep nudging you -t his is today's nudge.
[2007-06-14T14:30:32+00:00] <alnokta> Martinp23,
[2007-06-14T14:31:01+00:00] <Martinp23> Lcarsdata: lol - ok.  Keep poking me at the weekend - I'll get it done then, or start of next week :)
[2007-06-14T14:31:08+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ok
[2007-06-14T14:31:13+00:00] <Martinp23> alnokta, :)
[2007-06-14T14:31:57+00:00] <alnokta> where is your antivandalbot
[2007-06-14T14:57:17+00:00] <Martinp23> alnokta: It's running... http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=World_Wide_Web&diff=next&oldid=138140318
[2007-06-14T15:21:26+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: Do we get shared folders?
[2007-06-14T15:21:53+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Apparently Interiot has a public directory of shared code
[2007-06-14T15:28:26+00:00] <alnokta> Martinp23, i know, i meant on getting it on ar.wp too
[2007-06-14T15:29:25+00:00] <Martinp23> alnokta: Ohh ok.  I plan to do that over the summer (which starts in 2 weeks for me :D )
[2007-06-14T15:29:49+00:00] <Martinp23> actually, I'll be busy for a lot of the first week, but I plan to give it a shot :)
[2007-06-14T15:32:36+00:00] <alnokta> two shots please
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[2007-06-14T15:38:00+00:00] <Martinp23> ;)
[2007-06-14T15:39:22+00:00] <alnokta> Martinp23, what the 23 is for?
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[2007-06-14T15:42:51+00:00] <Martinp23> alnokta: It came from a randon username generator ;)
[2007-06-14T15:44:02+00:00] <alnokta> :( i thought it represented something notable
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[2007-06-14T16:01:44+00:00] <Martinp23> :(
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[2007-06-14T16:59:25+00:00] <DaB|Laptop> alnokta: Martinp23 is a part of THEM, but be quiete! ;)
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[2007-06-14T17:02:09+00:00] <alnokta> DaB|Laptop, no worries :D
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[2007-06-14T17:51:41+00:00] <_syphilis_> Lcarsdata: what is a shared folder?
[2007-06-14T17:52:01+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: A folder only you can write to but anyone can access and execute.
[2007-06-14T17:52:29+00:00] <_syphilis_> sure, that's the default
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[2007-06-14T17:53:00+00:00] <_syphilis_> alnokta: you shouldn't need a program to remember your passphrase, if you use ssh-agent.  it runs in the background and performs authentication on behalf of other programs (like scp)
[2007-06-14T17:53:41+00:00] <_syphilis_> Lcarsdata: because most of them don't have +r
[2007-06-14T17:53:49+00:00] <Lcarsdata> okay...
[2007-06-14T17:54:51+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: Would you happen to know how this file turned up in my home directory? /home/robert/SaxParseBug_wikipedia_en__Wed_Jun_13_15-15-31_2007.dump
[2007-06-14T17:54:57+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I don't remember creating such a file
[2007-06-14T17:55:26+00:00] <_syphilis_> do you use pywikipedia?
[2007-06-14T17:55:30+00:00] <alnokta> _syphilis_, ah, the last thing my turtle needs would be another process :)
[2007-06-14T17:55:37+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: yes
[2007-06-14T17:55:38+00:00] <alnokta> its interwiki.py thing
[2007-06-14T17:55:46+00:00] <_syphilis_> i believe it creates these files.  i don't know why
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[2007-06-14T17:56:32+00:00] <alnokta> may be it should help fixing it?
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[2007-06-14T18:01:52+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I really want to know what could have caused my two weblinkcheckers to run for several days when the commons one should have lasted a couple of hours and the wikipedia one a few days
[2007-06-14T18:02:47+00:00] <_syphilis_> told you
[2007-06-14T18:02:49+00:00] <_syphilis_> :D :D
[2007-06-14T18:03:25+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: :D but last time I ran the commons one it only lasted a couple of hours, I think something must be wrong
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[2007-06-14T21:03:38+00:00] <_syphilis_> White_Cat: would you please stop spamming my talk page with your useless signature shit
[2007-06-14T21:04:02+00:00] <White_Cat> please be civil
[2007-06-14T21:04:06+00:00] <White_Cat> what talk page shit?
[2007-06-14T21:04:30+00:00] <_syphilis_> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kate&action=history
[2007-06-14T21:04:43+00:00] <White_Cat> oh you are kate?
[2007-06-14T21:05:01+00:00] <White_Cat> I thought Kate was inactive
[2007-06-14T21:05:21+00:00] <White_Cat> man everyone is so hostile
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[2007-06-14T21:57:09+00:00] <valhalla1w> White_Cat: people are hostile because no-one sees any use for it, and you are generating 'new message!'-spam
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[2007-06-14T22:49:25+00:00] <dungodung> s3 sinking deeper :(
[2007-06-14T22:58:23+00:00] <ST47> pfft
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[2007-06-14T22:58:38+00:00] <ST47> be glad it isn't ''that'' bad!
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[2007-06-14T23:13:50+00:00] <White_Cat> ST47 yay
[2007-06-14T23:13:58+00:00] <White_Cat> my bot is loved on  TR :)
[2007-06-14T23:14:30+00:00] <ST47> :)
[2007-06-14T23:14:44+00:00] <ST47> (Which bot, and what's TR?)
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[2007-06-14T23:15:19+00:00] <White_Cat> tr.wiki
[2007-06-14T23:15:26+00:00] <White_Cat> WOPR
[2007-06-14T23:15:29+00:00] <ST47> :)
[2007-06-14T23:15:33+00:00] <ST47> What's WOPR do?
[2007-06-14T23:15:40+00:00] <White_Cat> its currently unicodifying
[2007-06-14T23:15:49+00:00] <White_Cat> it was fixing categories a minute a go
[2007-06-14T23:15:51+00:00] <White_Cat> well
[2007-06-14T23:15:52+00:00] <White_Cat> few minutes
[2007-06-14T23:16:14+00:00] <White_Cat> AWB is excelent for unicodifying
[2007-06-14T23:16:26+00:00] <White_Cat> like this: http://tr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=.bt&diff=1741011&oldid=1685373
[2007-06-14T23:17:27+00:00] <ST47> oh, cool :)
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[2007-06-14T23:30:21+00:00] <White_Cat> heh
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[2007-06-15T00:56:53+00:00] <White_Cat> hey ST47
[2007-06-15T00:57:04+00:00] <ST47> Hey
[2007-06-15T00:57:48+00:00] <White_Cat> ST47 do you have an "easy" way to get me a list of all articles (non-redirect mainspace pages) on a particular wiki?
[2007-06-15T00:58:01+00:00] <ST47> [[Special:Allpages]]?
[2007-06-15T00:58:01+00:00] <unilinky> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Allpages?redirect=no
[2007-06-15T00:58:15+00:00] <White_Cat> ST47 that displays them 400 by 400 at a time
[2007-06-15T00:58:22+00:00] <White_Cat> a pain to manualy input on AWB
[2007-06-15T00:58:35+00:00] <ST47> mmm
[2007-06-15T00:58:40+00:00] <ST47> database dump?
[2007-06-15T00:58:54+00:00] <ST47> Other than that, I can't think of anything
[2007-06-15T01:00:30+00:00] <White_Cat> ST47 err
[2007-06-15T01:00:43+00:00] <White_Cat> I dont think awb can read a db dump
[2007-06-15T01:02:06+00:00] <Betacommand> White_Cat: it can
[2007-06-15T01:02:35+00:00] <Betacommand> White_Cat: also pywiki
[2007-06-15T01:02:49+00:00] <White_Cat> pywiki is windows/unicode unfriendly
[2007-06-15T01:03:11+00:00] <Betacommand> White_Cat: I run windows
[2007-06-15T01:03:18+00:00] <Betacommand> what wiki?
[2007-06-15T01:03:45+00:00] <White_Cat> tr
[2007-06-15T01:03:54+00:00] <Betacommand> tr?
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[2007-06-15T01:04:18+00:00] <Betacommand> ah
[2007-06-15T01:05:29+00:00] <Betacommand> just give me 20 minutes and youll have an AWB compateable list
[2007-06-15T01:05:56+00:00] <White_Cat> ah ok
[2007-06-15T01:14:58+00:00] <Betacommand> White_Cat: its not done yet but http://tools.wikimedia.de/~betacommand/tr.wikipedia.org
[2007-06-15T01:16:44+00:00] <Betacommand> White_Cat: done
[2007-06-15T01:18:58+00:00] <White_Cat> Betacommand thanks
[2007-06-15T01:19:09+00:00] <White_Cat> Betacommand your bot seeks unfree images right?
[2007-06-15T01:19:17+00:00] <Betacommand> yes
[2007-06-15T01:19:18+00:00] <White_Cat> can you alter it so it does daily digets?
[2007-06-15T01:19:29+00:00] <White_Cat> I sometimes get like 20 same warning
[2007-06-15T01:19:38+00:00] <White_Cat> fills talk page
[2007-06-15T01:19:43+00:00] <White_Cat>  a list would be more useful
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[2007-06-15T01:20:15+00:00] <Betacommand> White_Cat: I dont want to do that because sometimes it crashes
[2007-06-15T01:20:23+00:00] <Betacommand> = Loss of some data
[2007-06-15T01:20:37+00:00] <White_Cat> well
[2007-06-15T01:21:00+00:00] <White_Cat> you know you can paste a fair-use rationale too :)
[2007-06-15T01:21:41+00:00] <Betacommand> White_Cat: you will get caught
[2007-06-15T01:21:53+00:00] <Betacommand> and that just makes it worse
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[2007-06-15T01:22:33+00:00] <Betacommand> the bot is terminator
[2007-06-15T01:22:40+00:00] <Betacommand> only better
[2007-06-15T01:22:49+00:00] <White_Cat> Betacommand this list isnt working well
[2007-06-15T01:22:55+00:00] <Betacommand> why?
[2007-06-15T01:23:02+00:00] <White_Cat> unicode characters are turning into ?'s when I copy paste
[2007-06-15T01:23:14+00:00] <Betacommand> dont copypaste
[2007-06-15T01:23:18+00:00] <Betacommand> save the page
[2007-06-15T01:23:27+00:00] <Betacommand> File save
[2007-06-15T01:23:35+00:00] <Betacommand> Duh
[2007-06-15T01:24:08+00:00] <White_Cat> heh
[2007-06-15T01:24:18+00:00] <White_Cat> I thought about that a second before you typed :)
[2007-06-15T01:24:45+00:00] <White_Cat> still doesnt read it properly
[2007-06-15T01:25:09+00:00] <White_Cat> Büyük baştankara
[2007-06-15T01:25:12+00:00] <Betacommand> why?
[2007-06-15T01:25:17+00:00] <White_Cat> lots of wierd symbols
[2007-06-15T01:25:20+00:00] <White_Cat> I am uncertain why
[2007-06-15T01:25:29+00:00] <Betacommand> just a sec
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[2007-06-15T01:29:11+00:00] <Betacommand> White_Cat: Im the guy for bot stuff
[2007-06-15T01:29:53+00:00] <White_Cat> :D
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[2007-06-15T01:30:51+00:00] <Betacommand> try that link now
[2007-06-15T01:31:01+00:00] <Betacommand> wait
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[2007-06-15T01:39:30+00:00] <Betacommand> sorry I discovered a logic error with unicode
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[2007-06-15T01:40:21+00:00] <Betacommand> I had to sign up for an account on tr.wikipedia
[2007-06-15T01:46:40+00:00] <Betacommand> White_Cat: It should be done shortly
[2007-06-15T01:46:57+00:00] <White_Cat> dont call me shorty!
[2007-06-15T01:46:58+00:00] <White_Cat> :D
[2007-06-15T01:47:19+00:00] <White_Cat> Betacommand I actualy want to get my many accounts renamed
[2007-06-15T01:47:48+00:00] <White_Cat> cant you come up with something to help that? :o
[2007-06-15T01:50:50+00:00] <Betacommand> talk to a steward
[2007-06-15T01:51:22+00:00] <Betacommand> they can do that easily
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[2007-06-15T01:59:53+00:00] <chuck> Did hemlock just get restarted?
[2007-06-15T01:59:56+00:00] <White_Cat> not on wikis with bcrats :)
[2007-06-15T02:00:13+00:00] <chuck> Or did I get all my processes killed for some reason lol
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[2007-06-15T02:00:46+00:00] <chuck> wb LogicBot lol
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[2007-06-15T02:01:03+00:00] <Betacommand> White_Cat: there is a quciker way
[2007-06-15T02:01:44+00:00] <Betacommand> you just have to know who's ears you have to whisper into
[2007-06-15T02:04:05+00:00] <White_Cat> Betacommand well
[2007-06-15T02:04:10+00:00] <White_Cat> I have bad wiki relationships
[2007-06-15T02:04:19+00:00] <White_Cat> most people either dislike me or outright hate me
[2007-06-15T02:04:39+00:00] <Betacommand> you think I have any better? (have you seen my talkpage?)
[2007-06-15T02:06:01+00:00] <White_Cat> not really
[2007-06-15T02:06:08+00:00] <White_Cat> fair-use fans must hate you
[2007-06-15T02:06:27+00:00] <White_Cat> in a hate competition no one can compete with me
[2007-06-15T02:06:37+00:00] <White_Cat> kate probably hates me as of today
[2007-06-15T02:24:17+00:00] <Betacommand> what language is tr?
[2007-06-15T02:24:25+00:00] <_syphilis_> turkish
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[2007-06-15T02:37:26+00:00] <White_Cat> Betacommand it is turkish
[2007-06-15T02:37:39+00:00] <White_Cat> turkish has a few non aschii chars
[2007-06-15T02:37:56+00:00] <White_Cat> ğüşıöçÖÇŞİĞÜ
[2007-06-15T02:39:58+00:00] <Betacommand> White_Cat: how many pages are on the tr.wiki?
[2007-06-15T02:40:12+00:00] <White_Cat> 82500ish
[2007-06-15T02:40:35+00:00] <White_Cat> a good number are stubs with bad unicode
[2007-06-15T02:53:53+00:00] <Betacommand> White_Cat: AWB can use this http://tr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&title=%C3%96zel%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Betacommand&namespace=
[2007-06-15T02:55:21+00:00] <White_Cat> thats 10,000 per page?
[2007-06-15T02:55:28+00:00] <White_Cat> doesnt ad up to 80,000 :P
[2007-06-15T02:56:58+00:00] <Betacommand> its not done
[2007-06-15T02:57:19+00:00] <Betacommand> I gave up fighting with python
[2007-06-15T02:57:40+00:00] <White_Cat> why?
[2007-06-15T02:57:44+00:00] <White_Cat> you a quitter?
[2007-06-15T02:58:01+00:00] <Betacommand> I couldnt get it to write unicode to a text file
[2007-06-15T02:58:13+00:00] <Betacommand> I cheated an used MediaWiki
[2007-06-15T02:59:05+00:00] <White_Cat> yes
[2007-06-15T02:59:12+00:00] <White_Cat> it makes my life easier actualy
[2007-06-15T02:59:22+00:00] <Betacommand> White_Cat: I didnt give up I just changed my method
[2007-06-15T02:59:28+00:00] <White_Cat> but you are 22500 entries short :)
[2007-06-15T02:59:48+00:00] <Betacommand> check now
[2007-06-15T02:59:56+00:00] <White_Cat> oh
[2007-06-15T02:59:58+00:00] <White_Cat> you added :)
[2007-06-15T03:00:06+00:00] <Betacommand> it wasnt done
[2007-06-15T03:00:38+00:00] <White_Cat> aw
[2007-06-15T03:01:11+00:00] <White_Cat> Betacommand would you be interested in writing a vandalism detection bot
[2007-06-15T03:01:24+00:00] <Betacommand> no
[2007-06-15T03:01:32+00:00] <White_Cat> I have many ideas but very little time to impliment it
[2007-06-15T03:01:40+00:00] <White_Cat> oh I see :/
[2007-06-15T03:01:54+00:00] <Betacommand> I dont have a decent diff parsers/reverting methods
[2007-06-15T03:04:51+00:00] <White_Cat> oh
[2007-06-15T03:04:57+00:00] <White_Cat> Betacommand thats the easy part
[2007-06-15T03:05:08+00:00] <White_Cat> you see the IRC postings are very helpful for those
[2007-06-15T03:05:38+00:00] <White_Cat> Betacommand you ever seen the rc feed on irc.wikimedia.org?
[2007-06-15T03:06:14+00:00] <Betacommand> not recently (IE over a year ago)
[2007-06-15T03:06:32+00:00] <White_Cat> well
[2007-06-15T03:06:44+00:00] <White_Cat> [06:10:23] <@rc> [[Rihanna]] M http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rihanna&diff=138273907&oldid=138272460 * Acalamari * (-14) Revert: user has been asked politely by both Luna Santin and I not to do this.
[2007-06-15T03:06:44+00:00] <unilinky> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Rihanna?redirect=no
[2007-06-15T03:06:52+00:00] <White_Cat> thats an example feed I just stolen
[2007-06-15T03:07:05+00:00] <White_Cat> &diff=138273907&oldid=138272460 can be used to generate a revert link
[2007-06-15T03:07:31+00:00] <White_Cat> "-14" can be a sign of vandalism if the number is too large
[2007-06-15T03:07:39+00:00] <Betacommand> White_Cat: I dont have the time at the moment
[2007-06-15T03:07:40+00:00] <White_Cat> you have several databases of good/bad users
[2007-06-15T03:07:44+00:00] <White_Cat> Betacommand ah ok
[2007-06-15T03:07:51+00:00] <Betacommand> talk to tawker
[2007-06-15T03:07:57+00:00] <Betacommand> he has AVB
[2007-06-15T03:07:59+00:00] <White_Cat> he is using my ocde
[2007-06-15T03:08:02+00:00] <White_Cat> *code
[2007-06-15T03:08:14+00:00] <Betacommand> then why not use that
[2007-06-15T03:08:14+00:00] <White_Cat> he already has something working :P
[2007-06-15T03:08:38+00:00] <White_Cat> because what he as is old gen
[2007-06-15T03:08:51+00:00] <White_Cat> I want to design the 3rd generation vandal fighting code
[2007-06-15T03:08:57+00:00] <Betacommand> martin is updating
[2007-06-15T03:08:57+00:00] <White_Cat> I started the second gen :P
[2007-06-15T03:13:19+00:00] <White_Cat> Betacommand can you do the same for commons?
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[2007-06-15T03:23:53+00:00] <Betacommand> White_Cat: what was that about commons?
[2007-06-15T03:24:03+00:00] <White_Cat> list of all articles
[2007-06-15T03:24:06+00:00] <White_Cat> well
[2007-06-15T03:24:08+00:00] <White_Cat> galleries
[2007-06-15T03:24:15+00:00] <White_Cat> I may preform a similar task there
[2007-06-15T03:24:19+00:00] <Betacommand> Estimates?
[2007-06-15T03:24:49+00:00] <White_Cat> 61,919 galleries
[2007-06-15T03:24:55+00:00] <Betacommand> Oh
[2007-06-15T03:24:57+00:00] <Betacommand> Ok
[2007-06-15T03:25:06+00:00] <White_Cat> so 7 pages for ya :)
[2007-06-15T03:25:13+00:00] <White_Cat> you can toss everything to one page too :P
[2007-06-15T03:25:36+00:00] <Betacommand> White_Cat: I fight MediaWiki about page lenght
[2007-06-15T03:25:45+00:00] <White_Cat> well
[2007-06-15T03:25:53+00:00] <White_Cat> you dont need to make it a long list
[2007-06-15T03:25:59+00:00] <White_Cat> bit rathed consecutinve wikilinks
[2007-06-15T03:26:05+00:00] <White_Cat> awb can still read that
[2007-06-15T03:26:12+00:00] <White_Cat> "All links on page" deal
[2007-06-15T03:26:21+00:00] <White_Cat> but do either way
[2007-06-15T03:26:33+00:00] <White_Cat> oh I'll have to click 6 extra buttons
[2007-06-15T03:26:36+00:00] <White_Cat> big deal
[2007-06-15T03:26:37+00:00] <White_Cat> :P
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[2007-06-15T03:37:41+00:00] <Betacommand> White_Cat: generating now
[2007-06-15T03:37:48+00:00] <White_Cat> thanks
[2007-06-15T03:38:17+00:00] <Betacommand> when your done tag them for speedy deletion
[2007-06-15T03:42:18+00:00] <White_Cat> I am an admin on commons
[2007-06-15T03:42:24+00:00] <White_Cat> I can just as well delete them :)
[2007-06-15T03:42:59+00:00] <White_Cat> Unicodifying & general fixes practicaly applies to every page
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[2007-06-15T03:56:55+00:00] <Betacommand> White_Cat: commons is done
[2007-06-15T03:57:10+00:00] <White_Cat> commons is never done :)
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[2007-06-15T04:16:06+00:00] <White_Cat> Betacommand you know AWB?
[2007-06-15T04:16:22+00:00] <Betacommand> esyes
[2007-06-15T04:16:26+00:00] <Betacommand> *yes
[2007-06-15T04:16:34+00:00] <Betacommand> Im fighting with it right now
[2007-06-15T04:19:36+00:00] <White_Cat> heh
[2007-06-15T04:19:42+00:00] <White_Cat> do you know how to enable it?
[2007-06-15T04:19:44+00:00] <White_Cat> it has a bot flag
[2007-06-15T04:19:49+00:00] <White_Cat> whatelse does it need?
[2007-06-15T04:19:56+00:00] <Betacommand> a check page
[2007-06-15T04:20:08+00:00] <White_Cat> is there a spesific url?
[2007-06-15T04:20:16+00:00] <Betacommand> not sure how to enable that
[2007-06-15T04:20:32+00:00] <White_Cat> shouldnt a bot flag be ok by default?
[2007-06-15T04:20:37+00:00] <Betacommand> no
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[2007-06-15T04:23:35+00:00] <White_Cat> Betacommand who do you reccomend I ask about it?
[2007-06-15T04:23:59+00:00] <Betacommand> [[WT:AWB]]
[2007-06-15T04:24:00+00:00] <unilinky> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WT:AWB?redirect=no
[2007-06-15T04:24:15+00:00] <Betacommand> that is not meta
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[2007-06-15T05:14:23+00:00] <heinz> !replag
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[2007-06-15T06:14:32+00:00] <heinz> !replag
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[2007-06-15T06:38:04+00:00] <TheLetterE> How do you list all files again when on toolserver? (Sorry, I'm new to it :P)
[2007-06-15T06:38:12+00:00] <TheLetterE> Something like lm?
[2007-06-15T06:38:15+00:00] <_syphilis_> all files where?
[2007-06-15T06:38:21+00:00] <_syphilis_> 'ls' lists the contents of the current directory
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[2007-06-15T06:38:30+00:00] <TheLetterE> That's it, thanks :)
[2007-06-15T06:38:35+00:00] <_syphilis_> TheLetterE: http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Unix-Stan-Kelly-Bootle/dp/0782114997
[2007-06-15T06:38:41+00:00] <TheLetterE> OK
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[2007-06-15T07:54:19+00:00] <TheLetterE> What is the bash command to create a new folder? and command to upload a file from local to remote using psftp?
[2007-06-15T07:54:32+00:00] <_syphilis_> mkdir, but it's just a command, nothing to do with bash
[2007-06-15T07:54:41+00:00] <_syphilis_> no idea about psftp
[2007-06-15T07:54:55+00:00] <TheLetterE> Alright, I'll search around a bit
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[2007-06-15T08:04:19+00:00] <Filnik> Hello
[2007-06-15T08:05:10+00:00] <TheLetterE> Hello
[2007-06-15T08:05:23+00:00] <Filnik> hello TheLetterE :)
[2007-06-15T08:05:48+00:00] <TheLetterE> _syphilis_: What's the command to delete a directory with files in it?
[2007-06-15T08:06:08+00:00] <TheLetterE> I know rmdir
[2007-06-15T08:06:19+00:00] <TheLetterE> But it doesn't allow deletion with files
[2007-06-15T08:06:43+00:00] <TheLetterE> Or is that the only deletion command
[2007-06-15T08:08:15+00:00] <Filnik> TheLetterE: can it be rm -f directory?
[2007-06-15T08:08:45+00:00] <Filnik> TheLetterE: snowolf said me that man rm is the help :)
[2007-06-15T08:08:46+00:00] <Annabel> maybe rm -r directory ?
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[2007-06-15T08:09:50+00:00] <TheLetterE> Annabel: Thanks, yours worked :)
[2007-06-15T08:10:07+00:00] <Filnik> :( only a letter XD
[2007-06-15T08:10:09+00:00] <Filnik> :)
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[2007-06-15T08:10:29+00:00] <Filnik> Hi Snowolf :)
[2007-06-15T08:11:23+00:00] <Snowolf> hi Filnik
[2007-06-15T08:12:52+00:00] <VasilievVV> May I run interwiki.py on toolserver?
[2007-06-15T08:17:28+00:00] <Filnik> VasilievVV: i've tried but it waste a lot of memory... but i think to be the only one :) try ;)
[2007-06-15T08:17:58+00:00] <TheLetterE> It uses heaps of memory, I don't recommend it
[2007-06-15T08:18:20+00:00] <Filnik> ahn, ok :) it's not only a my problem...
[2007-06-15T08:18:48+00:00] <VasilievVV> Ok. If it waste memory, I'll run just redirect.py
[2007-06-15T08:19:35+00:00] <_syphilis_> someone should really fix it so it doesn't use so much :)
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[2007-06-15T08:22:23+00:00] <_syphilis_> hi akl
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[2007-06-15T08:23:23+00:00] <akl> hi. got your email and will try to take care of it later today
[2007-06-15T08:23:27+00:00] <_syphilis_> ok
[2007-06-15T08:23:56+00:00] <_syphilis_> if they won't send a replacement drive before we send this one back, please buy a new one
[2007-06-15T08:24:12+00:00] <akl> okay
[2007-06-15T08:25:01+00:00] <_syphilis_> (then replace the old one anyway and we can use it as spare :)
[2007-06-15T08:40:44+00:00] <Filnik> _syphilis_: is possible that a process that isn't in anyone of my screens... is still active!?
[2007-06-15T08:41:46+00:00] <Filnik> _syphilis_: yesterday i've killed a my process without understanding why it does the same thing two times... and now i see that there still is a process that do the same thing... but only one times...
[2007-06-15T08:41:48+00:00] <Filnik> :S
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[2007-06-15T08:43:28+00:00] <TheLetterE> When I login also it says I have a few processes open but I recall killing them earlier
[2007-06-15T08:43:34+00:00] <TheLetterE> Which is wierd
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[2007-06-15T08:45:48+00:00] <Filnik_> windows... i hate you....  -_-
[2007-06-15T08:46:06+00:00] <Filnik_> _syphilis_: have you said something?
[2007-06-15T08:46:28+00:00] <Filnik_> excuse me (or my pc...)
[2007-06-15T08:46:42+00:00] <TheLetterE> Are you using PuTTY?
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[2007-06-15T08:47:19+00:00] <Filnik> TheLetterE: yes
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[2007-06-15T08:47:58+00:00] <TheLetterE> So am I
[2007-06-15T08:48:20+00:00] <Filnik> TheLetterE: have you the same problems or not?
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[2007-06-15T08:48:52+00:00] <TheLetterE> Well, I do see processes listed when I login that have previously been killed then when I try to kill them, they say process not found
[2007-06-15T08:49:02+00:00] <TheLetterE> Yes, PuTTY works fine
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[2007-06-15T08:51:34+00:00] <BryanTM> TheLetterE: try ps ux to get a list of active processes
[2007-06-15T08:52:13+00:00] <Filnik> BryanTM: ux?
[2007-06-15T08:52:18+00:00] <BryanTM> ux
[2007-06-15T08:52:18+00:00] <Filnik> or ps ux?
[2007-06-15T08:52:20+00:00] <Filnik> ok
[2007-06-15T08:52:22+00:00] <Filnik> :)
[2007-06-15T08:52:30+00:00] <BryanTM> yes px ux
[2007-06-15T08:52:33+00:00] <BryanTM> ps ux
[2007-06-15T08:52:34+00:00] <valhallasw> _syphilis_: interwiki.py loads all known interwiki pages into memory
[2007-06-15T08:52:36+00:00] <BryanTM> that one
[2007-06-15T08:52:52+00:00] <valhallasw> and that means a lot of memory generally
[2007-06-15T08:53:07+00:00] <TheLetterE> Yeah, that shows only three (which I know are running), but when you login, it says to the user the following screen sessions are active, how do you close them?
[2007-06-15T08:53:09+00:00] <Filnik> BryanTM: :O a mega-list has appearde
[2007-06-15T08:53:18+00:00] <Filnik> *appeared
[2007-06-15T08:53:25+00:00] <BryanTM> ...
[2007-06-15T08:53:31+00:00] <BryanTM> that's the list of all your active processes
[2007-06-15T08:53:37+00:00] <Filnik> ahn
[2007-06-15T08:53:57+00:00] <TheLetterE> BryanTM: How do you close open screens?
[2007-06-15T08:54:08+00:00] <TheLetterE> (Sorry, I'm new to the toolserv)
[2007-06-15T08:54:13+00:00] <Filnik> BryanTM: indeed there are two welcome.py... but i see only one :S
[2007-06-15T08:54:17+00:00] <BryanTM> you can reattach to them using "screen -R"
[2007-06-15T08:54:18+00:00] <Filnik> (in the screens list)
[2007-06-15T08:54:28+00:00] <BryanTM> and then exit them
[2007-06-15T08:54:43+00:00] <BryanTM> or you can use "kill <PID>"
[2007-06-15T08:55:02+00:00] <BryanTM> and if that doesn't work "kill -KILL <PID>"
[2007-06-15T08:55:06+00:00] <TheLetterE> Thats what I do, but they still come up as active screens when I login
[2007-06-15T08:55:23+00:00] <BryanTM> then kill them explicitly
[2007-06-15T08:55:31+00:00] <TheLetterE> How
[2007-06-15T08:55:39+00:00] <Filnik> BryanTM: thank you :)
[2007-06-15T08:55:41+00:00] <BryanTM> kill -KILL <PID>
[2007-06-15T08:56:37+00:00] <valhallasw> for i in `ps ux | sed -e 's/[0-9]* *\([0-9]*\).*/\1/'`; do kill $i; done ;)
[2007-06-15T08:56:39+00:00] <BryanTM> Filnik: you can use grep to filter only few of the processes
[2007-06-15T08:56:52+00:00] <BryanTM> I never understood sed
[2007-06-15T08:56:56+00:00] <BryanTM> and probably never will
[2007-06-15T08:57:05+00:00] <valhallasw> the above kills all your processes
[2007-06-15T08:57:25+00:00] <BryanTM> I somehow had that feeling... :P
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[2007-06-15T08:57:31+00:00] <valhallasw> sed is just a regexp evaluator ;)
[2007-06-15T08:57:39+00:00] <TheLetterE> BryanTM: It says -bash: kill: (<PID>) - No such process
[2007-06-15T08:57:55+00:00] <TheLetterE> Which is wierd, they still show as open when I login to the toolserv
[2007-06-15T08:58:02+00:00] <TheLetterE> That's my problem
[2007-06-15T08:58:12+00:00] <BryanTM> substitute <PID> by the number in the PID column of ps ux
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[2007-06-15T08:58:18+00:00] <BryanTM> but i'm gone
[2007-06-15T08:58:19+00:00] <Filnik> ok
[2007-06-15T08:58:19+00:00] <BryanTM> bye
[2007-06-15T08:58:20+00:00] <TheLetterE> I know that
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[2007-06-15T08:58:31+00:00] <TheLetterE> I have changed the <PID>
[2007-06-15T08:58:40+00:00] <TheLetterE> I'm just replacing that with the number
[2007-06-15T08:58:45+00:00] <TheLetterE> ;\
[2007-06-15T08:58:53+00:00] <Filnik> it works! :)
[2007-06-15T08:58:55+00:00] <Filnik> wow!
[2007-06-15T08:58:57+00:00] <Filnik> :D
[2007-06-15T08:59:14+00:00] <Filnik> TheLetterE: kill 27119 works with me (change the number ;) ) :)
[2007-06-15T08:59:44+00:00] <TheLetterE> Oh my, I have your process list
[2007-06-15T08:59:47+00:00] <TheLetterE> It's huge
[2007-06-15T09:00:17+00:00] <TheLetterE> 35 processes!
[2007-06-15T09:00:21+00:00] <TheLetterE> I have 3 ;P\
[2007-06-15T09:01:58+00:00] <Filnik> TheLetterE: mine? i've seen, is O.O
[2007-06-15T09:01:59+00:00] <Filnik> :D
[2007-06-15T09:02:13+00:00] <Filnik> TheLetterE: and think that i'm using only two screens :S
[2007-06-15T09:02:17+00:00] <TheLetterE> Yeah, I can see your process list
[2007-06-15T09:02:40+00:00] <Filnik> TheLetterE: no problem, nothing to hide ^^
[2007-06-15T09:02:56+00:00] <TheLetterE> There shouldn't be on the toolserv ;)
[2007-06-15T09:03:13+00:00] <Filnik> TheLetterE: indeed :)
[2007-06-15T09:05:31+00:00] <Filnik> TheLetterE: but the other processess... like ...
[2007-06-15T09:05:32+00:00] <Filnik> filnik   20683  0.0  0.0  52832  1620 ?        S    08:39   0:00 sshd: filnik@pts/13
[2007-06-15T09:05:34+00:00] <Filnik> filnik   20685  0.0  0.0  80132  1916 pts/13   Ss+  08:39   0:00 -bash
[2007-06-15T09:05:35+00:00] <Filnik> filnik   22139  0.0  0.0  90992  1068 ?        Ss   Jun11   0:00 SCREEN
[2007-06-15T09:05:38+00:00] <Filnik> what are!??!!?!?!?!? :S
[2007-06-15T09:05:48+00:00] <valhallasw> sshd is you logged in
[2007-06-15T09:05:55+00:00] <Filnik> valhallasw: yes but...
[2007-06-15T09:05:58+00:00] <valhallasw> bash is the bash shell you are running
[2007-06-15T09:06:01+00:00] <valhallasw> and screen is screen?
[2007-06-15T09:06:07+00:00] <Filnik> valhallasw: there are more or less, 40 processes like these :S
[2007-06-15T09:06:09+00:00] <TheLetterE> SCREEN is another process
[2007-06-15T09:06:21+00:00] <TheLetterE> you can kill that by going
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[2007-06-15T09:06:23+00:00] <Filnik> valhallasw: i'm not logged from 10 pc!
[2007-06-15T09:06:24+00:00] <Filnik> :S
[2007-06-15T09:06:29+00:00] <valhallasw> hmmm
[2007-06-15T09:06:30+00:00] <TheLetterE> kill -KILL <PID>
[2007-06-15T09:06:32+00:00] <Filnik> TheLetterE: one by one... O.O
[2007-06-15T09:06:38+00:00] <TheLetterE> Yep, the only way
[2007-06-15T09:06:44+00:00] <Filnik> :O my god
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[2007-06-15T09:07:03+00:00] <Filnik> shit...
[2007-06-15T09:07:10+00:00] <Filnik> kill my bash process...
[2007-06-15T09:07:15+00:00] <Filnik> logged out
[2007-06-15T09:07:17+00:00] <Filnik> -.-
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[2007-06-15T09:07:26+00:00] <valhallasw> :D
[2007-06-15T09:07:45+00:00] <TheLetterE> Hmm, best you don't kill little bash
[2007-06-15T09:08:08+00:00] <TheLetterE> bash wants to be treated nicely or he will unleash a logout if badly treated
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[2007-06-15T09:10:22+00:00] <valhallasw> killing it doesnt work, no
[2007-06-15T09:10:39+00:00] <Filnik> valhallasw: lol, problems with adsl.. :D
[2007-06-15T09:10:45+00:00] <valhallasw> ;)
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[2007-06-15T09:13:22+00:00] <TheLetterE> Thats a bit better, few more to go I believe
[2007-06-15T09:13:35+00:00] <TheLetterE> 13 to be precise
[2007-06-15T09:13:37+00:00] <Filnik> TheLetterE: yes :)
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[2007-06-15T09:14:08+00:00] <Filnik> fatal error... server closed the connection... band... died XD
[2007-06-15T09:14:13+00:00] <Filnik> *bang
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[2007-06-15T09:14:35+00:00] <Filnik> :D
[2007-06-15T09:17:32+00:00] <Filnik> shit... 50% 50% for the last connection...
[2007-06-15T09:17:34+00:00] <Filnik> :D
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[2007-06-15T09:18:45+00:00] <TheLetterE> Well done filnik, youve now got only three processes which is excellent
[2007-06-15T09:18:48+00:00] <TheLetterE> Better than 35
[2007-06-15T09:19:02+00:00] <Filnik> TheLetterE: XD
[2007-06-15T09:19:05+00:00] <Filnik> TheLetterE: i quote XD
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[2007-06-15T09:19:43+00:00] <Filnik> lol
[2007-06-15T09:19:45+00:00] <Filnik> :D
[2007-06-15T09:20:12+00:00] <TheLetterE> You enjoy that interactive cookie :)
[2007-06-15T09:20:16+00:00] <Filnik> TheLetterE: take a look now :)
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[2007-06-15T09:20:54+00:00]<!-- Filnik wow, thanx :)
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[2007-06-15T09:21:54+00:00] <TheLetterE> 2 processes, even better
[2007-06-15T09:22:00+00:00] <TheLetterE> Are you sysop Filnik?
[2007-06-15T09:22:13+00:00] <Filnik> TheLetterE: only in wiktionary-it and botwiki :)
[2007-06-15T09:22:20+00:00] <Filnik> (my wiki :D )
[2007-06-15T09:22:29+00:00] <TheLetterE> Ah
[2007-06-15T09:22:36+00:00] <Filnik> :)
[2007-06-15T09:22:51+00:00] <Filnik> TheLetterE: (but botwiki is going to be official :) )
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[2007-06-15T09:30:16+00:00] <TheLetterE> _syphilis_: What's the rename command again?
[2007-06-15T09:42:27+00:00] <yrithinnd> !replag
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[2007-06-15T09:45:43+00:00] <yrithinnd> is zedler overhead?
[2007-06-15T09:46:03+00:00] <yrithinnd> or this lag is puntual situation
[2007-06-15T09:46:45+00:00] <Snowolf> !replas s1
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[2007-06-15T09:46:52+00:00] <Snowolf> !replag s1
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[2007-06-15T09:46:56+00:00] <Snowolf> :-(
[2007-06-15T09:47:45+00:00] <alnokta> will it ever be 1 hour ?
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[2007-06-15T12:11:23+00:00] <heinz> !replag
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[2007-06-15T12:12:13+00:00] <heinz> could someone restart replication on s2, pls
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[2007-06-15T14:11:24+00:00] <heinz> !replag
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[2007-06-15T14:11:57+00:00] <heinz> could someone restart replication on s2, pls
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[2007-06-15T14:32:27+00:00] <yrithinnd> !replag
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[2007-06-15T14:54:23+00:00] <HardDisk_WP> Der Toolserver hat heute seinen ersten User dem sein Account dauerhaft entzogen wurde. Selbst schuld, wer meint, hemlock wäre ein guter Platz um MP3s zu ziehen.
[2007-06-15T14:54:30+00:00] <HardDisk_WP> *lol* who was it?
[2007-06-15T14:54:58+00:00] <alnokta> *lol* what does that means?
[2007-06-15T14:55:31+00:00] <HardDisk_WP> someones TS account was closed forever
[2007-06-15T14:55:43+00:00] <HardDisk_WP> because he/she loaded mp3s from hemlock :D
[2007-06-15T14:56:11+00:00] <alnokta> :)
[2007-06-15T14:56:28+00:00] <alnokta> may be it was mp3 related to th e projects?
[2007-06-15T14:56:39+00:00] <HardDisk_WP> surely not :D
[2007-06-15T14:57:07+00:00] <alnokta> ah
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[2007-06-15T15:14:05+00:00] <valhallasw> locate \.mp3 :P
[2007-06-15T15:19:20+00:00] <valhallasw> HardDisk_WP: wp-blog.de is DaBs blog?
[2007-06-15T15:21:28+00:00] <HardDisk_WP> yes
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[2007-06-15T15:57:56+00:00] <para> !replag
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[2007-06-15T15:58:04+00:00] <para> what happened?
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[2007-06-15T17:53:16+00:00] <heinz> !replag
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[2007-06-15T17:53:27+00:00] <heinz> could someone restart replication on s2, pls
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[2007-06-15T19:26:54+00:00] <VasilievVV> Which command gets list of databes on server?
[2007-06-15T19:27:19+00:00] <HardDisk_WP> LIST DATABASES afair
[2007-06-15T19:28:09+00:00] <VasilievVV> error 1064
[2007-06-15T19:32:43+00:00] <_syphilis_> show databases;
[2007-06-15T19:33:19+00:00] <VasilievVV> Thanks. It works normally with perl
[2007-06-15T19:33:23+00:00] <VasilievVV> &
[2007-06-15T19:33:25+00:00] <VasilievVV> ?
[2007-06-15T19:33:40+00:00] <VasilievVV> Because I want to read wiki list
[2007-06-15T19:33:53+00:00] <_syphilis_> yes
[2007-06-15T19:33:59+00:00] <_syphilis_> you could also look at the toolserver.wiki table
[2007-06-15T19:38:08+00:00] <valhallasw> toolserver.wiki generally is faster
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[2007-06-15T19:48:08+00:00] <HardDisk_WP> VasilievVV, p0rn sites?
[2007-06-15T19:48:20+00:00] <HardDisk_WP> passwords of wikipedia admins?
[2007-06-15T19:48:24+00:00] <HardDisk_WP> *scnr*
[2007-06-15T19:48:32+00:00] <VasilievVV> No :(
[2007-06-15T19:51:00+00:00] <VasilievVV> HardDisk_WP, Wikipedia admins' passwords aren't very useful. 'crats, stewards, SVN and server shell are more useful ;)
[2007-06-15T19:51:14+00:00] <HardDisk_WP> *gg*
[2007-06-15T19:51:39+00:00] <HardDisk_WP> rm -rf /mnt/wikipedia
[2007-06-15T19:52:36+00:00] <VasilievVV> What is /mnt/wikipedia?
[2007-06-15T19:52:48+00:00] <Lcarsdata> it doesn't exist
[2007-06-15T19:52:55+00:00] <Lcarsdata> he was joking
[2007-06-15T19:53:01+00:00] <HardDisk_WP> yep :D
[2007-06-15T19:54:17+00:00] <VasilievVV> And why wikipedia? Think foundation-wide
[2007-06-15T19:54:28+00:00] <Lcarsdata> woah, we have more than 300kb of IRC logs in this channel
[2007-06-15T19:55:08+00:00] <HardDisk_WP> marco@www:~$ ls -lah .miau/logs/|grep tool
[2007-06-15T19:55:08+00:00] <HardDisk_WP> -rw------- 1 marco marco  69K Jun 15 21:54 #wikimedia-toolserver.irclog
[2007-06-15T19:55:21+00:00] <VasilievVV> Lcarsdata, ruwiki's forum archive is larger
[2007-06-15T19:55:28+00:00] <Lcarsdata> O RLY?
[2007-06-15T19:57:01+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Argfh, I just tried to ls /mnt/aux0/archiv/irc.log from my shared host shell
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[2007-06-15T19:57:34+00:00] <VasilievVV> Some users have more than 1000 edits in just Russian WP:AN/I analog
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[2007-06-15T20:34:11+00:00] <valhallasw> riiiight
[2007-06-15T20:34:29+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ?
[2007-06-15T20:34:47+00:00] <valhallasw> langlinks table returns zh-classic as language
[2007-06-15T20:34:55+00:00] <valhallasw> but pywikipedia expects zh-classical
[2007-06-15T20:35:26+00:00] <Lcarsdata> one sec
[2007-06-15T20:35:32+00:00] <Bryan> that's an error of pywikipedia probably
[2007-06-15T20:35:36+00:00] <valhallasw> yes
[2007-06-15T20:35:46+00:00] <Lcarsdata> zh-classical is the correct one
[2007-06-15T20:35:51+00:00] <Lcarsdata> MediaWiki says so
[2007-06-15T20:35:55+00:00] <Bryan> oh
[2007-06-15T20:35:56+00:00] <valhallasw> ?
[2007-06-15T20:36:04+00:00] <Lcarsdata> see /home/robert/mediawiki/languages/Names.php
[2007-06-15T20:36:10+00:00] <Lcarsdata> line 286
[2007-06-15T20:36:13+00:00] <valhallasw> then how did zh-classic get into langlinks?
[2007-06-15T20:36:34+00:00] <Lcarsdata> *shrug
[2007-06-15T20:38:35+00:00] <valhallasw> oh joy
[2007-06-15T20:39:17+00:00] <valhallasw> I can tell
[2007-06-15T20:39:22+00:00] <valhallasw> ll_lang is varchar(10)
[2007-06-15T20:40:55+00:00] <valhallasw> *shrug*
[2007-06-15T20:42:21+00:00] <valhallasw> now do I really need to join against toolserver.wiki? :S
[2007-06-15T20:43:32+00:00] <valhallasw> not like that's possible... as toolserver.wiki.lang can contain longer texts
[2007-06-15T20:52:29+00:00] <valhallasw> Bryan: I will create a patch for pywikipedia that understands zh-classic to be zh-classical
[2007-06-15T20:52:42+00:00] <Bryan> fine
[2007-06-15T20:52:49+00:00] <Bryan> i'll apply it
[2007-06-15T20:53:21+00:00] <Bryan> but you'll better know what you're doing, because I have not even looked at that part of pywikipedia :P
[2007-06-15T20:53:26+00:00] <valhallasw> hehe
[2007-06-15T20:55:46+00:00] <valhallasw> or I could patch my querier script
[2007-06-15T20:55:47+00:00] <valhallasw> hmm.
[2007-06-15T21:01:12+00:00] <valhallasw> I might be able to fix it with only two settings
[2007-06-15T21:04:45+00:00] <valhallasw> grin, I need to fix my query scripts
[2007-06-15T21:05:33+00:00] <valhallasw> okay, it works
[2007-06-15T21:05:34+00:00] <valhallasw> good
[2007-06-15T21:05:53+00:00] <valhallasw> !wiki
[2007-06-15T21:06:08+00:00] <valhallasw> har.
[2007-06-15T21:07:20+00:00] <valhallasw> Bryan: http://tools.wikimedia.de/~valhallasw/diff.txt
[2007-06-15T21:07:46+00:00] <Bryan> ok, let's see whether I can do this without breaking stuff
[2007-06-15T21:08:09+00:00] <valhallasw> or do you think I should create an if that translates 'sh-classic' to 'zh-classical'?
[2007-06-15T21:08:14+00:00] <valhallasw> zh-classic*
[2007-06-15T21:08:43+00:00] <Bryan> this looks fine
[2007-06-15T21:09:03+00:00] <valhallasw> it should use zh-classical for anything it can't find
[2007-06-15T21:10:10+00:00] <Bryan> patching file wikipedia.py
[2007-06-15T21:10:12+00:00] <Bryan> can't find file to patch at input line 15
[2007-06-15T21:10:30+00:00] <valhallasw> you cant feed this file to diff :)
[2007-06-15T21:10:41+00:00] <valhallasw> I think
[2007-06-15T21:10:57+00:00] <valhallasw> and possibly lines have shifted, it's not a complete diff
[2007-06-15T21:11:11+00:00] <Bryan> I think I did it correct
[2007-06-15T21:11:23+00:00] <valhallasw> might be my snipping in the diff though
[2007-06-15T21:11:27+00:00] <Bryan> now lets commit
[2007-06-15T21:11:33+00:00] <valhallasw> k
[2007-06-15T21:13:02+00:00] <Bryan> done
[2007-06-15T21:14:00+00:00] <Bryan> well... not totally correct, but almost
[2007-06-15T21:14:02+00:00] <Bryan> http://pywikipediabot.cvs.sourceforge.net/pywikipediabot/pywikipedia/wikipedia.py?r1=1.925&r2=1.924
[2007-06-15T21:14:10+00:00] <Bryan> nothing that could break, luckily
[2007-06-15T21:14:21+00:00] <valhallasw> heh
[2007-06-15T21:14:33+00:00] <valhallasw> just looks a bit.. strange
[2007-06-15T21:15:25+00:00] <Bryan> I wonder how that happened
[2007-06-15T21:15:31+00:00] <Bryan> I just did patch <diff.txt
[2007-06-15T21:15:48+00:00] <valhallasw> hm.
[2007-06-15T21:15:58+00:00] <valhallasw> I could understand if it went two lines too far down
[2007-06-15T21:16:03+00:00] <valhallasw> but this is just strange
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[2007-06-15T21:20:56+00:00] <valhallasw> UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\u6c34' in position 0: ordinal not in range(128)
[2007-06-15T21:20:59+00:00] <valhallasw> grr.
[2007-06-15T21:21:31+00:00] <Bryan> use the replace or ignore mode
[2007-06-15T21:21:56+00:00] <valhallasw> I'll see if wikiproxy understands ascii-translated utf-8
[2007-06-15T21:22:23+00:00] <Bryan> uh, ascii translated utf-8?
[2007-06-15T21:22:30+00:00] <valhallasw> like in the database
[2007-06-15T21:22:37+00:00] <Bryan> ah
[2007-06-15T21:22:42+00:00] <valhallasw> good, works
[2007-06-15T21:22:59+00:00] <valhallasw> nice page full of \xYY's :)
[2007-06-15T21:26:16+00:00] <valhallasw> I notified you of /home/valhallasw/libs/python/pywikipedia/querier.py, toolserver.py and wikipedia_ts.py, right?
[2007-06-15T21:26:43+00:00] <valhallasw> querier the simple db layer, toolserver generators for the database and wikipedia_ts for the wikipedia.py integration
[2007-06-15T21:28:09+00:00] <Lcarsdata> valhallasw: I get a similar error when running the weblinkchecker
[2007-06-15T21:28:18+00:00] <valhallasw> Lcarsdata: what script, where, etc ;)
[2007-06-15T21:29:07+00:00] <Lcarsdata> /home/robert/pywikipedia/weblinkschecker.py
[2007-06-15T21:29:10+00:00] <Lcarsdata> erm
[2007-06-15T21:29:26+00:00] <valhallasw> weblinkchecker
[2007-06-15T21:29:26+00:00] <valhallasw> got it
[2007-06-15T21:30:00+00:00] <Lcarsdata> valhallasw: http://paste2.org/p/3850
[2007-06-15T21:30:32+00:00] <valhallasw> now that is kinda... stupid I suppose
[2007-06-15T21:31:43+00:00] <valhallasw> Retrieving MediaWiki messages for wikipedia:en
[2007-06-15T21:31:45+00:00] <valhallasw> what the....
[2007-06-15T21:32:06+00:00] <valhallasw> what wiki where you working on?
[2007-06-15T21:32:25+00:00] <Bryan> pywikipedia generally does things you don't expect from it
[2007-06-15T21:32:30+00:00] <valhallasw> indeed
[2007-06-15T21:32:46+00:00] <Lcarsdata> valhallasw: Commons and Wikipedia En
[2007-06-15T21:32:52+00:00] <valhallasw> a more systematic rewrite might not even be that bad >_<
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[2007-06-15T21:33:07+00:00] <valhallasw> Lcarsdata: check.
[2007-06-15T21:33:20+00:00] <Lcarsdata> huh?
[2007-06-15T21:33:22+00:00] <Lcarsdata> check?
[2007-06-15T21:33:32+00:00] <valhallasw> check as in 'understood'
[2007-06-15T21:33:38+00:00] <Lcarsdata> oh, ok :D
[2007-06-15T21:33:39+00:00] <Bryan> valhallasw: or just write your own framework :P
[2007-06-15T21:34:04+00:00] <valhallasw> Bryan: I kinda did with wikipedia_ts
[2007-06-15T21:34:33+00:00] <valhallasw> and lots of the power of the database gets discarded by using it with pywikipedia
[2007-06-15T21:34:40+00:00] <valhallasw> but hey, it makes everything a lot more readable ;)
[2007-06-15T21:34:47+00:00] <Bryan> :P
[2007-06-15T21:35:31+00:00] <valhallasw> Lcarsdata: okay, fixeable
[2007-06-15T21:35:44+00:00] <Lcarsdata> valhallasw: :D When can I expect a fix?
[2007-06-15T21:35:55+00:00] <valhallasw> 10 minutes fast enough?
[2007-06-15T21:35:56+00:00] <valhallasw> ;)
[2007-06-15T21:36:03+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Of course :)
[2007-06-15T21:36:22+00:00] <Bryan> valhallasw: get cvs access
[2007-06-15T21:36:38+00:00] <valhallasw> Bryan: for all my patches? :P
[2007-06-15T21:36:40+00:00] <Bryan> it's just a matter of asking AndreEngels on #pywikipediabot
[2007-06-15T21:36:55+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Bryan: YOu have CVS access?
[2007-06-15T21:37:02+00:00] <Bryan> I got access before I even touched a piece of code
[2007-06-15T21:37:04+00:00] <Bryan> yes
[2007-06-15T21:37:08+00:00] <valhallasw> or on #wikipedia-nl ;)
[2007-06-15T21:37:26+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Bryan: Would you be so kind to commit valhallasw so I can get it through my updateall.sh bash script?
[2007-06-15T21:37:40+00:00] <Lcarsdata> s/ valhallasw/ valhallasw script/
[2007-06-15T21:37:41+00:00] <Bryan> shall I commit valhallasw ?
[2007-06-15T21:37:46+00:00] <Lcarsdata> lol
[2007-06-15T21:37:48+00:00] <valhallasw> :D
[2007-06-15T21:37:51+00:00] <Bryan> I don't know whether he fits in a repository
[2007-06-15T21:37:59+00:00] <Bryan> let me check your version
[2007-06-15T21:38:27+00:00] <Bryan> bryan@hemlock:~/projects/delinker/cvs$ cvs add valhallasw
[2007-06-15T21:38:27+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Bryan: Whos version?
[2007-06-15T21:38:32+00:00] <Bryan> cvs add: nothing known about valhallasw
[2007-06-15T21:38:39+00:00] <Bryan> stupid thingie
[2007-06-15T21:38:42+00:00] <valhallasw> :D
[2007-06-15T21:38:54+00:00] <valhallasw> cvs add developers/valhallasw
[2007-06-15T21:38:55+00:00] <valhallasw> :+
[2007-06-15T21:41:16+00:00] <valhallasw> Lcarsdata: cp /home/valhallasw/libs/python/pywikipedia/weblinkchecker.py
[2007-06-15T21:41:19+00:00] <valhallasw> and try if it works
[2007-06-15T21:41:36+00:00] <Lcarsdata> valhallasw: I can't access you directory
[2007-06-15T21:41:59+00:00] <valhallasw> and now?
[2007-06-15T21:42:02+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Oh, yeah
[2007-06-15T21:42:13+00:00] <valhallasw> k, good
[2007-06-15T21:43:32+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I have to wait until it gets to ag to be sure
[2007-06-15T21:44:15+00:00] <valhallasw> to ag?
[2007-06-15T21:44:31+00:00] <valhallasw> to agliè?
[2007-06-15T21:44:39+00:00] <Lcarsdata> yes
[2007-06-15T21:44:49+00:00] <Lcarsdata> at "ad"
[2007-06-15T21:46:03+00:00] <Lcarsdata> It worked :D thanks valhallasw
[2007-06-15T21:47:05+00:00] <valhallasw> np
[2007-06-15T21:47:10+00:00] <valhallasw> Bryan: I will ask andre_engels
[2007-06-15T21:47:21+00:00] <Bryan> ok
[2007-06-15T21:47:28+00:00] <Bryan> I'm about to go
[2007-06-15T21:47:30+00:00] <Bryan> bye
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[2007-06-15T21:48:34+00:00] <Lcarsdata> valhallasw: If you do get commit access would you mind commiting this before next Tuesday (the next scheduled running of weblinkchecker.py)
[2007-06-15T21:48:58+00:00] <valhallasw> Lcarsdata: it should keep working unless an update overwrites it
[2007-06-15T21:49:13+00:00] <Lcarsdata> valhallasw: I copied it to a different filename, dw
[2007-06-15T21:49:20+00:00] <valhallasw> ah okay
[2007-06-15T21:49:23+00:00] <Lcarsdata> It doesn't matter.
[2007-06-15T21:49:42+00:00] <valhallasw> you can just run this version instead of the official one. I will try to get cvs access.
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[2007-06-15T21:50:07+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Yeah, I have copied it over - thanks.
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[2007-06-15T21:53:32+00:00] <valhallasw> np
[2007-06-15T22:01:13+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: Remember that problem I had with the two weblinkcheckers yesterday and you said "told you" - they had just hund for some reason so I killed the processes and got a cron e-mail. I am currently rerunning them both, so far so good. It should take about 3 days for the English Wikipedia one to complete so we will see then. I might end up deleting the data file though so I might end up waiting a couple of weeks for a result/
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[2007-06-15T22:33:59+00:00] <Lcarsdata> OMG, why the hell am I using the pywikipediabot to do this when I have a database dump at my disposal?
[2007-06-15T22:39:13+00:00] <valhallasw> Lcarsdata: because it is more recent? dunno
[2007-06-15T22:40:11+00:00] <Lcarsdata> valhallasw: True, but I completely forgot about the external links table, for now I will use the pywikipediabot for the english wikipedia and my tool that I am going to create for other wikis.
[2007-06-15T22:40:19+00:00] <valhallasw> hehe
[2007-06-15T22:40:21+00:00] <ST47> Can anything be done about this ficking captcha?
[2007-06-15T22:40:34+00:00] <valhallasw> ST47: where?
[2007-06-15T22:40:49+00:00] <ST47> Where do you think? Userlogin on enwp
[2007-06-15T22:40:52+00:00] <valhallasw> Lcarsdata: don't create it yourself
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[2007-06-15T22:40:58+00:00] <valhallasw> ST47: I didn't know that :p
[2007-06-15T22:41:16+00:00] <Lcarsdata> valhallasw: why not?
[2007-06-15T22:41:26+00:00] <valhallasw> Lcarsdata: because I have the framework ready for you
[2007-06-15T22:41:30+00:00] <Lcarsdata> wha?
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[2007-06-15T22:41:44+00:00] <valhallasw> just need to create one def for the urls
[2007-06-15T22:41:54+00:00] <Lcarsdata> valhallasw: Which language?
[2007-06-15T22:41:59+00:00] <valhallasw> pythhon
[2007-06-15T22:42:02+00:00] <Lcarsdata> hmm,
[2007-06-15T22:42:10+00:00] <valhallasw> -h
[2007-06-15T22:42:20+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ok
[2007-06-15T22:45:27+00:00] <valhallasw> hmmmmm
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[2007-06-15T22:47:55+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ?
[2007-06-15T22:49:15+00:00] <Lcarsdata> valhallasw: I would love to stay; but I have real bad stomach pains, it is nearly midnight, I have not had enough sleep for the last few days and tomorrow morning I have to go to the post office before midday. Speak with you tomorrow.
[2007-06-15T22:49:23+00:00] <valhallasw> okay
[2007-06-15T22:49:25+00:00] <valhallasw> good night
[2007-06-15T22:49:37+00:00] <TheLetterE> Night Lcarsdata
[2007-06-15T22:49:42+00:00] <Lcarsdata> night
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[2007-06-16T00:04:19+00:00] <_syphilis_> list: screen -ls
[2007-06-16T00:04:28+00:00] <TheLetterE> Aha thanks
[2007-06-16T00:04:33+00:00] <_syphilis_> best way to stop one is to attach it and terminate everything running in it
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[2007-06-16T02:45:14+00:00] <TheLetterE-Away> Hello Betacommand
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[2007-06-16T02:45:56+00:00] <Betacommand> hay
[2007-06-16T02:46:05+00:00] <TheLetterE> How's it going
[2007-06-16T02:46:57+00:00] <Betacommand> good
[2007-06-16T02:47:02+00:00] <Betacommand> and you
[2007-06-16T02:48:26+00:00] <TheLetterE> Yeah, alright
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[2007-06-16T02:57:01+00:00] <TheLetterE> Anyone have a replag script I can use on my toolserv?
[2007-06-16T02:57:13+00:00] <_syphilis_> toolservER
[2007-06-16T02:57:24+00:00] <TheLetterE> toolserver*
[2007-06-16T02:58:39+00:00] <TheLetterE> Anyone? :(
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[2007-06-16T05:17:25+00:00] <TheLetterE> !replag
[2007-06-16T05:17:25+00:00] <replagbot> TheLetterE: s2: 0d 21h 35m 25s (77725s) [-38322s in 22911s]; s3: 2d 6h 53m 48s (197628s) [+2123s in 22911s]; s1: 136d 8h 33m 15s (11781195s) [+22815s in 22911s]
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[2007-06-16T08:01:50+00:00] <Filnik> Hello
[2007-06-16T08:05:27+00:00] <TheLetterE-Away> Hello Filnik
[2007-06-16T08:05:35+00:00] <Filnik> hello TheLetterE-Away :)
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[2007-06-16T08:32:15+00:00] <Lcarsdata> valhallasw! You're still awake,
[2007-06-16T08:38:30+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> maybe not
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[2007-06-16T08:39:23+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> TheLetterE-Away: Are you here?
[2007-06-16T08:40:17+00:00] <TheLetterE-Away> LcarsdataTs: Yes, I'm here
[2007-06-16T08:40:28+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> Good,
[2007-06-16T08:40:43+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> TheLetterE-Away: You requested a replag script did you not?
[2007-06-16T08:41:19+00:00] <TheLetterE-Away> Indeed I did
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[2007-06-16T08:41:31+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> Have you found one yet?
[2007-06-16T08:41:43+00:00] <TheLetterE> Nope
[2007-06-16T08:42:19+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> TheLetterE: I have one that can give you the seconds at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~robert/replag.php?f=s&s=*
[2007-06-16T08:42:27+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> where * is the server number
[2007-06-16T08:42:44+00:00] <TheLetterE> I was wanting one for my toolserver account
[2007-06-16T08:42:57+00:00] <TheLetterE> That I could host at /~e
[2007-06-16T08:43:21+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> TheLetterE: You can screen grab it, or alternatively pokey around in my home directory and grab the source code.
[2007-06-16T08:43:25+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> Either is fine with me.
[2007-06-16T08:43:41+00:00] <TheLetterE> Sure thanks :)
[2007-06-16T08:43:43+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> It is written in PHP, that might not be the best thing ever.
[2007-06-16T08:43:48+00:00] <TheLetterE> Much appreciated
[2007-06-16T08:43:57+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> Also only the seconds work, and the s1 replag isn't correct.
[2007-06-16T08:44:27+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> If you know PHP it could do with a lot of work and if you would kindly share any modifications with me that would be appreciated.
[2007-06-16T08:44:51+00:00] <TheLetterE> Yeah, no problem, I don't know PHP much myself anyway
[2007-06-16T08:45:14+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> ok
[2007-06-16T08:45:24+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> If I improve it I will be sure to inform you.
[2007-06-16T08:45:40+00:00] <TheLetterE> Cheers
[2007-06-16T08:48:34+00:00] <TheLetterE> Can you get the code and put it in a text file on your toolserver for a few minutes so I can get it? Doesn't seem cp wants to grab it from you'
[2007-06-16T08:49:09+00:00] <TheLetterE> Or in what dir is it? /home/robert/public_html/replag.php?
[2007-06-16T08:49:17+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Yes, it is there.
[2007-06-16T08:49:26+00:00] <Lcarsdata> It should be 755 which you can access.
[2007-06-16T08:49:43+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Yes, it is 755.
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[2007-06-16T08:49:55+00:00] <TheLetterE> Alright one second, I'll try to cp it again
[2007-06-16T08:51:31+00:00] <TheLetterE> It's saying no such file or directory ;\
[2007-06-16T08:52:11+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> cp /home/robert/public_html/replag.php
[2007-06-16T08:53:31+00:00] <TheLetterE> Ah, there we go
[2007-06-16T08:53:41+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> :)
[2007-06-16T08:53:46+00:00] <TheLetterE> I was doing destination before target
[2007-06-16T08:53:52+00:00] <TheLetterE> Its target before destination
[2007-06-16T08:54:03+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> I see, lol.
[2007-06-16T08:54:18+00:00] <TheLetterE> (cp /home/robert/public_html/replag.php /home/e/public_html/replag.php)
[2007-06-16T08:54:46+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> You also need to duplicate my database connection layer.
[2007-06-16T08:54:51+00:00] <TheLetterE> It needs a DB connection too
[2007-06-16T08:54:57+00:00] <TheLetterE> Hmm
[2007-06-16T08:54:57+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> I cannot show you that as it has passwords.
[2007-06-16T08:54:59+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> Just put:
[2007-06-16T08:55:19+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> Just replace require_once( 'dependecies/mysqlconnect.php' ); with
[2007-06-16T08:55:33+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> mysql_connect( 'sql', 'e', 'password' );
[2007-06-16T08:55:45+00:00] <TheLetterE> and my password shall be?
[2007-06-16T08:55:47+00:00] <TheLetterE> ;\
[2007-06-16T08:56:05+00:00] <Lcarsdata> TheLetterE: loook in ~/my.cnf
[2007-06-16T08:56:11+00:00] <TheLetterE> Ah okay cheers
[2007-06-16T08:56:20+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I mean ~/.my.cnf
[2007-06-16T09:11:46+00:00] <Lcarsdata> lol http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ADuesentrieb/CheckUsage&diff=602728&oldid=556988#English_Wikipedia
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[2007-06-16T09:25:59+00:00] <yrithinnd> hi, any root online? ( _syphilis_ ? )
[2007-06-16T09:26:09+00:00] <_syphilis_> what
[2007-06-16T09:27:07+00:00] <HardDisk_WP> Lcarsdata, 0wn3d!
[2007-06-16T09:27:25+00:00] <Lcarsdata> HardDisk_WP: who is 0wn3d?
[2007-06-16T09:27:34+00:00] <HardDisk_WP> [[Owned]]
[2007-06-16T09:27:34+00:00] <unilinky> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Owned?redirect=no
[2007-06-16T09:27:41+00:00] <HardDisk_WP> Oh.
[2007-06-16T09:27:44+00:00] <HardDisk_WP> [[en:Owned]]
[2007-06-16T09:27:47+00:00] <yrithinnd> _syphilis_, on w:es need an tool that had user porao, but this tools now doesn't work because porao is inactive can you copy to my dir and chown to me public_html of porao (sorry for my english :P)
[2007-06-16T09:27:47+00:00] <unilinky> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/en:Owned?redirect=no
[2007-06-16T09:28:33+00:00] <Lcarsdata> HardDisk_WP: *Who* is 0wn3d?
[2007-06-16T09:28:48+00:00] <HardDisk_WP> <Lcarsdata> lol http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ADuesentrieb/CheckUsage&diff=602728&oldid=556988#English_Wikipedia
[2007-06-16T09:28:54+00:00] <Lcarsdata> oh, Duesen?
[2007-06-16T09:29:12+00:00] <HardDisk_WP> no
[2007-06-16T09:29:15+00:00] <Lcarsdata> me?
[2007-06-16T09:29:18+00:00] <Lcarsdata> him?
[2007-06-16T09:29:24+00:00] <HardDisk_WP> rather Andrewmackinnon
[2007-06-16T09:29:28+00:00] <Lcarsdata> oh, lol
[2007-06-16T09:29:45+00:00] <HardDisk_WP> :p
[2007-06-16T09:30:00+00:00] <_syphilis_> yrithinnd: what is your username?
[2007-06-16T09:30:08+00:00] <yrithinnd> oops, onion
[2007-06-16T09:31:46+00:00] <_syphilis_> yrithinnd: ~onion/public_html_porao
[2007-06-16T09:31:54+00:00] <yrithinnd> thanks :***
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[2007-06-16T09:51:06+00:00] <heinz> !replag
[2007-06-16T09:51:06+00:00] <replagbot> heinz: s2: 0d 20h 40m 30s (74430s) [-3295s in 16421s]; s3: 2d 5h 50m 57s (193857s) [-3771s in 16421s]; s1: 136d 13h 5m 53s (11797553s) [+16358s in 16421s]
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[2007-06-16T10:27:09+00:00] <valhallasw> Lcarsdata: the script is done :)
[2007-06-16T10:27:16+00:00] <Lcarsdata> :)
[2007-06-16T10:27:51+00:00] <Lcarsdata> kl
[2007-06-16T10:28:08+00:00] <valhallasw> import sys; sys.path.append('/home/valhallasw/libs/python/pywikipedia'; import wikipedia_ts, toolserver; wikipedia_ts.patch('wikipedia.Site.dbName')
[2007-06-16T10:28:25+00:00] <Lcarsdata> seriously,
[2007-06-16T10:28:29+00:00] <Lcarsdata> that is it?
[2007-06-16T10:28:32+00:00] <valhallasw> well
[2007-06-16T10:28:37+00:00] <valhallasw> you still need to run the generator ;)
[2007-06-16T10:28:39+00:00] <Lcarsdata> wow
[2007-06-16T10:28:51+00:00] <valhallasw> check /home/valhallasw/libs/python/pywikipedia/toolserver.py
[2007-06-16T10:28:56+00:00] <valhallasw> most things have functions in there
[2007-06-16T10:29:35+00:00] <Lcarsdata> i see
[2007-06-16T10:29:36+00:00] <Lcarsdata> so,
[2007-06-16T10:29:38+00:00] <valhallasw> if you do patch() all functions will by default use the toolserver databases
[2007-06-16T10:29:46+00:00] <valhallasw> unless you add 'original=True' as function argument
[2007-06-16T10:30:07+00:00] <Lcarsdata> so if i copy toolserver to my dir then create a file with your code it will work?
[2007-06-16T10:30:20+00:00] <Lcarsdata> scratch that
[2007-06-16T10:30:42+00:00] <Lcarsdata> if i copy toolserver.py to my pywikipedia dir then create a script with the code you just pasted it will work?
[2007-06-16T10:30:47+00:00] <valhallasw> well, you will have to hack a prefix in there (or in families/wikipedia_family.py)
[2007-06-16T10:30:53+00:00] <valhallasw> if you copy toolserver.py erm
[2007-06-16T10:30:55+00:00] <valhallasw> let me check
[2007-06-16T10:31:44+00:00] <valhallasw> you'll need to change some things as it will use 'nlwiki' instead of 'nlwiki_p' (nl as example)
[2007-06-16T10:31:52+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ok
[2007-06-16T10:32:40+00:00] <valhallasw> you can run the generator with [a for a in toolserver.Generators.getExternallinks(pageobject)]
[2007-06-16T10:32:54+00:00] <valhallasw> or just 'for link in toolserver.Generators.getExternallinks(pageobject):
[2007-06-16T10:33:51+00:00] <valhallasw> hum.
[2007-06-16T10:34:01+00:00] <Lcarsdata> o.o
[2007-06-16T10:34:38+00:00] <valhallasw> %$G#%T$WGTREWGTRWE
[2007-06-16T10:36:01+00:00] <valhallasw> hmm
[2007-06-16T10:36:37+00:00] <valhallasw> just running the complete monkey patch is safer then just running a few, it seems
[2007-06-16T10:37:54+00:00] <valhallasw> >>> p = wikipedia.Page('nl', 'Technische Universiteit Delft')
[2007-06-16T10:37:54+00:00] <valhallasw> >>> [a for a in toolserver.Generators.getExternallinks(p)]
[2007-06-16T10:37:54+00:00] <valhallasw> [u'http://www.delta.tudelft.nl/archief/j32/n31/5139', u'http://www.foundation-imagine.org/', u'http://www.tudelft.nl/', u'http://www.tudelft.nl/live/binaries/d07fc93d-0fe3-42cd-b7cb-da1c2fbaf4bd/doc/DI-06-1-3eredoctores.pdf']
[2007-06-16T10:38:02+00:00] <valhallasw> but at least it works :p
[2007-06-16T10:38:28+00:00] <valhallasw> Lcarsdata: I will create a new toolserver.py for you
[2007-06-16T10:38:31+00:00] <valhallasw> 3 secs.
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[2007-06-16T10:48:09+00:00] <valhallasw> Lcarsdata: okay, done
[2007-06-16T10:48:14+00:00] <Lcarsdata> kl
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[2007-06-16T11:05:27+00:00] <Luxo> !replag s2
[2007-06-16T11:05:27+00:00] <replagbot> Luxo: s2: 0d 20h 54m 40s (75280s) [+850s in 4461s]
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[2007-06-16T11:13:17+00:00] <TheLetterE> !replag s1
[2007-06-16T11:13:18+00:00] <replagbot> TheLetterE: s1: 136d 14h 27m 58s (11802478s) [+4925s in 4931s]
[2007-06-16T11:13:25+00:00] <TheLetterE> >.>
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[2007-06-16T11:14:11+00:00] <valhallasw> TheLetterE: what do you expect? S1 is not replicated
[2007-06-16T11:14:20+00:00] <TheLetterE> I know ;)
[2007-06-16T11:16:44+00:00] <VasilievVV> !replag s2
[2007-06-16T11:16:44+00:00] <replagbot> VasilievVV: s2: 0d 21h 1m 59s (75719s) [+439s in 677s]
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[2007-06-16T11:17:13+00:00] <valhallasw> ST47:  we know. get over it
[2007-06-16T11:17:40+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ST47: use the api
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[2007-06-16T13:48:43+00:00] <para> what's going on with the replag lately? the s2 graph looks really odd
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[2007-06-16T14:10:11+00:00] <Connel|zzz> !replag
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[2007-06-16T15:06:05+00:00] <VasilievVV> Is there any PHP libraries for toolserver?
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[2007-06-16T15:09:06+00:00] <alnokta> Agony|, that tool that gives orphaned pages is very nice..thanks
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[2007-06-16T15:32:02+00:00] <Agony|> alnokta: np, nice to here that tool is usefull :)
[2007-06-16T15:34:06+00:00] <alnokta> :)
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[2007-06-16T16:12:50+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> VasilievVV: A PHP library to do what?
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[2007-06-16T16:13:36+00:00] <VasilievVV> With misc utils, because I'm going to write such library
[2007-06-16T16:14:03+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> misc utils to do what?
[2007-06-16T16:14:51+00:00] <VasilievVV> E.g. to get page id...
[2007-06-16T16:16:01+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> VasilievVV: Generally those of us with experience with MediaWiki include bits from MediaWiki which offer such functions.
[2007-06-16T16:16:19+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> For example there are several functions to get the page id from the page namespace and name.
[2007-06-16T16:16:29+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> and vice versa
[2007-06-16T16:18:54+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> VasilievVV: So theoretically there is already a library.
[2007-06-16T16:18:54+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> You just have to know how to use it.
[2007-06-16T16:19:52+00:00] <valhallasw> the python library is there now, too ;)
[2007-06-16T16:20:07+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> :D
[2007-06-16T16:20:11+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> _syphilis_: busy?
[2007-06-16T16:20:58+00:00] <valhallasw> not yet complete though :)
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[2007-06-16T16:50:27+00:00] <heinz> !replag
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[2007-06-16T17:35:32+00:00] <Lcarsdata> heinz: What is your obsession with replag?
[2007-06-16T17:38:50+00:00] <para> I'd like it back to normal too, snif...
[2007-06-16T17:41:01+00:00] <Lcarsdata> para: only less than a week now...
[2007-06-16T17:43:19+00:00] <para> hope so
[2007-06-16T17:45:57+00:00] <para> the lag the last few days is even visible in the yearly graph now
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[2007-06-16T18:09:22+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Martinp23: It is the weekend - buggin you ;)
[2007-06-16T18:10:02+00:00] <Bryan> valhallasw: so you finally got cvs :)
[2007-06-16T18:10:25+00:00] <VasilievVV> !replag
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[2007-06-16T18:17:21+00:00] <Martinp23> Lcarsdata: Gargh :)
[2007-06-16T18:17:30+00:00] <Martinp23> Not the best time, looking at #wikipedia :(
[2007-06-16T18:18:08+00:00] <Lcarsdata> dw
[2007-06-16T18:18:15+00:00] <Lcarsdata> it is not urgent
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[2007-06-16T18:51:25+00:00] <yrithinnd> !replag
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[2007-06-16T19:27:07+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Wikipedia is so huge.
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[2007-06-16T19:27:32+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: You win, the weblinkchecker on Wikipedia is going to take forever.
[2007-06-16T19:28:29+00:00] <Filnik> hello
[2007-06-16T19:28:55+00:00] <Lcarsdata> hi
[2007-06-16T19:29:39+00:00] <valhallasw> Bryan: :P
[2007-06-16T19:29:52+00:00] <valhallasw> have i?
[2007-06-16T19:29:53+00:00] <Bryan> :)
[2007-06-16T19:30:29+00:00] <Bryan> "Valhallasw from nl:wikipedia has been added to the developer group."
[2007-06-16T19:30:32+00:00] <Lcarsdata> valhallasw: You got cvs access yet?
[2007-06-16T19:30:58+00:00] <valhallasw> apparently :P
[2007-06-16T19:31:06+00:00] <Lcarsdata> congrats
[2007-06-16T19:31:09+00:00] <valhallasw> thx
[2007-06-16T19:31:30+00:00] <Bryan> It's not a big deal (tm)
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[2007-06-16T19:31:47+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Bryan: O RLY?
[2007-06-16T19:31:53+00:00] <Bryan> like I said, I got CVS access before I ever touched a code of pywikipedia :P
[2007-06-16T19:32:02+00:00] <Lcarsdata> :D
[2007-06-16T19:32:07+00:00] <valhallasw> it's just not a good idea to throw with formulae on the first page of the introduction... especially if they have nothing to do with the chapter
[2007-06-16T19:33:24+00:00] <Bryan> ah, I'm having an exam dynamics next friday
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[2007-06-16T19:50:48+00:00] <valhallasw> Bryan: the $Id$ header *should* be fixed now :)
[2007-06-16T19:50:57+00:00] <Bryan> nice :)
[2007-06-16T19:51:50+00:00] <valhallasw> at least...
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[2007-06-16T19:53:28+00:00] <valhallasw> yep, works
[2007-06-16T19:53:46+00:00] <valhallasw> I'll send a mail to the mailing list
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[2007-06-16T20:11:34+00:00] <valhallasw> Bryan: http://pywikipediabot.cvs.sourceforge.net/pywikipediabot/pywikipedia/wikipedia.py?revision=1.925&view=markup line 119 ;)
[2007-06-16T20:11:40+00:00] <valhallasw> 110*
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[2007-06-16T20:19:07+00:00] <Filnik> hello
[2007-06-16T20:19:49+00:00] <Lcarsdata> hi
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[2007-06-16T21:05:57+00:00] <_syphilis_> valhallasw: you can probably drop and recreate your personal database, if you wanted
[2007-06-16T21:06:10+00:00] <valhallasw> I won't try :)
[2007-06-16T21:06:27+00:00] <_syphilis_> yes, don't.  restoring from the SQL backups is very annoying :)
[2007-06-16T21:06:41+00:00] <valhallasw> there is nothing in there anyway
[2007-06-16T21:06:44+00:00] <valhallasw> except a view, maybe
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[2007-06-16T21:30:53+00:00] <valhallasw> Bryan: wat did three dots in a triangle-shape mean? I forgot :/
[2007-06-16T21:31:05+00:00] <skenmy> Therefore
[2007-06-16T21:31:12+00:00] <valhallasw> right
[2007-06-16T21:31:15+00:00] <valhallasw> thanks
[2007-06-16T21:32:49+00:00] <Bryan> never seen that
[2007-06-16T21:33:06+00:00] <valhallasw> ARGH. It took me 15 minutes to realize they meant d/dt with D >_<
[2007-06-16T21:33:24+00:00] <valhallasw> D is just not good to use around variables A and B :|
[2007-06-16T21:35:23+00:00] <skenmy> never seen triple dot meaning "therefore"?
[2007-06-16T21:35:29+00:00] <skenmy> I use it all the time
[2007-06-16T21:38:34+00:00] <heinz> !replag
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[2007-06-16T21:38:53+00:00] <valhallasw> it's probably used more in maths than physics
[2007-06-16T21:38:59+00:00] <Lcarsdata> it is
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[2007-06-16T21:39:13+00:00] <valhallasw> but this is my mechanics book
[2007-06-16T21:39:43+00:00] <valhallasw> which is directed too much toward maths and too little towards the underlying physics, if you ask me
[2007-06-16T22:00:29+00:00] <valhallasw> i.e.
[2007-06-16T22:00:36+00:00] <valhallasw> it tells you how tot calculate things
[2007-06-16T22:00:58+00:00] <valhallasw> but it doesn't tell you what you are, physically, calculating
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[2007-06-17T05:23:45+00:00] <heinz> !replag
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[2007-06-17T06:46:29+00:00] <TheLetterE-Away> !replag
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[2007-06-17T06:46:30+00:00] <LogicBot> I think he left.
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[2007-06-17T09:23:09+00:00] <Lcarsdata> hi
[2007-06-17T09:23:52+00:00] <Filnik> Hello
[2007-06-17T09:27:49+00:00] <yrithinnd> when will arrive new db server? :P
[2007-06-17T09:28:21+00:00] <_syphilis_>   read the topic
[2007-06-17T09:28:23+00:00] <Lcarsdata> yrithinnd: It has arrived, a bit is just needed, please read topic.
[2007-06-17T09:28:36+00:00] <yrithinnd> i think topic is a joke
[2007-06-17T09:28:39+00:00] <yrithinnd> :P
[2007-06-17T09:28:48+00:00] <Lcarsdata> yrithinnd: O RLY?
[2007-06-17T09:29:38+00:00] <yrithinnd> the new server is only for s1?
[2007-06-17T09:29:56+00:00] <_syphilis_> yes
[2007-06-17T09:30:37+00:00] <yrithinnd> k
[2007-06-17T09:35:04+00:00] <HardDisk_WP> *g* i think with the new server it'll be like with SUL :D
[2007-06-17T09:35:35+00:00] <Lcarsdata> hehe
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[2007-06-17T10:01:02+00:00] <valhallasw> _syphilis_: what are the plans with connecting etc? will one server act as a proxy for the other one or are two connections needed?
[2007-06-17T10:01:18+00:00] <_syphilis_> probably you will need to connect to the correct server
[2007-06-17T10:01:25+00:00] <_syphilis_> i will explore whether federated tables are suitable though
[2007-06-17T10:01:51+00:00] <valhallasw> k
[2007-06-17T10:06:47+00:00] <dungodung> !replag s3
[2007-06-17T10:06:47+00:00] <replagbot> dungodung: s3: 2d 17h 49m 32s (236972s) [+5756s in 8961s]
[2007-06-17T10:06:52+00:00] <dungodung> :(
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[2007-06-17T11:16:23+00:00] <Luxo> !replag s2
[2007-06-17T11:16:23+00:00] <replagbot> Luxo: s2: 0d 14h 27m 38s (52058s) [-482s in 13137s]
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[2007-06-17T13:47:22+00:00] <Dvyjones> The email I got when my account was made said I should update the .about_me file, but I can't find it
[2007-06-17T13:47:53+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Dvyjones: It is in the base of your home directory.
[2007-06-17T13:48:02+00:00] <Dvyjones> ~/?
[2007-06-17T13:48:14+00:00] <Dvyjones> is it in ~/
[2007-06-17T13:48:24+00:00] <Lcarsdata> yes
[2007-06-17T13:48:31+00:00] <Lcarsdata> type:
[2007-06-17T13:48:34+00:00] <Lcarsdata> cd ~
[2007-06-17T13:48:41+00:00] <Lcarsdata> vim .about.me
[2007-06-17T13:48:43+00:00] <Lcarsdata> What happens?
[2007-06-17T13:49:37+00:00] <Dvyjones> ".about.me" 22L, 708C
[2007-06-17T13:49:47+00:00] <Dvyjones> it jumps over maby lines and says that
[2007-06-17T13:49:58+00:00] <Dvyjones> there it popped up
[2007-06-17T13:49:58+00:00] <Lcarsdata> yes
[2007-06-17T13:50:00+00:00] <Dvyjones> thank you
[2007-06-17T13:50:05+00:00] <Lcarsdata> np
[2007-06-17T13:51:14+00:00] <Dvyjones> How do i save/exit?
[2007-06-17T13:52:13+00:00] <Lcarsdata> type ZZ
[2007-06-17T13:53:39+00:00] <Dvyjones> ok, it was veeeery slow, so I used nano instead
[2007-06-17T13:53:54+00:00] <Lcarsdata> slow?
[2007-06-17T13:54:06+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Dvyjones: I have no idea about nano
[2007-06-17T13:54:24+00:00] <Dvyjones> nano is about the same as vim, but much faster
[2007-06-17T13:55:47+00:00] <HardDisk_WP> i use joe
[2007-06-17T13:55:58+00:00] <HardDisk_WP> it's much easier
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[2007-06-17T15:16:14+00:00] <valhallasw> joe *easy*? O_o
[2007-06-17T15:26:34+00:00] <VasilievVV> valhallasw: it is very easy
[2007-06-17T15:29:04+00:00] <HardDisk_WP> valhallasw, much easier than vi :D
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[2007-06-17T15:47:24+00:00] <Filnik> Hello
[2007-06-17T15:59:48+00:00] <heinz> !replag
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[2007-06-17T16:19:10+00:00] <valhallasw> VasilievVV: for some reason I don't find ctrl-k, x more logical than :wq
[2007-06-17T16:19:42+00:00] <valhallasw> the only text mode editor that is truely more logical than vi is mcedit
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[2007-06-17T16:19:52+00:00] <Dodek> i prefer C-c C-x.
[2007-06-17T16:20:00+00:00] <valhallasw> that would be emacs?
[2007-06-17T16:20:14+00:00] <Dodek> quiting in emacs, yes
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[2007-06-17T16:23:29+00:00] <HardDisk_WP> back2the roots: edit a file with cat, grep and Unix pipes :P
[2007-06-17T16:23:44+00:00] <HardDisk_WP> oh, i forgot echo and sed
[2007-06-17T16:24:02+00:00] <valhallasw> right.
[2007-06-17T16:24:36+00:00] <HardDisk_WP> even more roots: edit the file via manipulating these hole cards from the beginning of computer age :D
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[2007-06-17T17:07:12+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Martinp23: What exactly does being unmounted mean?
[2007-06-17T17:14:16+00:00] <Shadow42> Lcarsdata: The system basically closes the drive/partition and you can't read/write it
[2007-06-17T17:14:41+00:00] <Lcarsdata> why?
[2007-06-17T17:15:29+00:00] <Shadow42> Lcarsdata: If you don't need it?
[2007-06-17T17:15:39+00:00] <Shadow42> Lcarsdata: you can mount drives, and you can unmount them.
[2007-06-17T17:15:52+00:00] <Shadow42> Mounting a CD is like putting it into a CD drive, unmounting it is like ejecting the disc
[2007-06-17T17:16:28+00:00] <Shadow42> I usually don't have my /boot partition mounted because I rarely ever need access to it.
[2007-06-17T17:16:36+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Shadow42: Oh, okay. Doesn't make any sense why you would not mount\unmount a hard drive. But anyway, I presume this could be fixed with a restart (although this is probably not an issue)
[2007-06-17T17:16:46+00:00] <Lcarsdata> s/an/the
[2007-06-17T17:16:50+00:00] <Shadow42> Lcarsdata: I missed the problem, what is it?
[2007-06-17T17:17:13+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Shadow42: He needs to boot into Windows to use his wikibot to generate a table for my WikiProject.
[2007-06-17T17:17:29+00:00] <Shadow42> Huh.
[2007-06-17T17:17:52+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Shadow42: The wikibot only runs on Windows.
[2007-06-17T17:18:10+00:00] <Shadow42> Oh, figures, Martin's a Windows dev :)
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[2007-06-17T17:39:02+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Martinp23! When can I expect the bot to be run then?
[2007-06-17T17:43:07+00:00] <Martinp23> :S
[2007-06-17T17:43:14+00:00] <Martinp23> Tomorrow?
[2007-06-17T17:43:18+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ok...
[2007-06-17T17:43:24+00:00] <Martinp23> Depends if I can find the code, or if I end up re-writing it
[2007-06-17T17:43:30+00:00] <Martinp23> :(
[2007-06-17T17:43:33+00:00] <Lcarsdata> dw
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[2007-06-18T09:08:06+00:00] <Filnik> Hello
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[2007-06-18T09:11:16+00:00] <VasilievVV> !admin
[2007-06-18T09:11:35+00:00] <Martinp23> Toolserver admin or any admin? :)
[2007-06-18T09:11:48+00:00] <VasilievVV> Toolserver admin
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[2007-06-18T09:14:00+00:00] <yrithinnd> !replag
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[2007-06-18T09:18:33+00:00] <Skyluke> hi all
[2007-06-18T09:18:41+00:00] <Filnik> Is there anyone (available) that can submit a change in a pywikipediabot framework?
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[2007-06-18T09:19:00+00:00] <_syphilis_> VasilievVV: what?
[2007-06-18T09:19:29+00:00] <VasilievVV> It seems to me, yesterday I deleted SSH public key from my directory
[2007-06-18T09:19:44+00:00] <VasilievVV> http://pastey.net/57054+3jpf
[2007-06-18T09:23:48+00:00] <_syphilis_> rm -rf .*? why did you do that? :)
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[2007-06-18T09:31:07+00:00] <_syphilis_> i will restore the key you sent initially
[2007-06-18T09:31:49+00:00] <VasilievVV> Ok.
[2007-06-18T09:32:22+00:00] <_syphilis_> can you login now?
[2007-06-18T09:33:06+00:00] <VasilievVV> Yes. Thanks
[2007-06-18T09:33:15+00:00] <_syphilis_> i suppose you need a new mysql password, also?
[2007-06-18T09:33:32+00:00] <VasilievVV> No
[2007-06-18T09:33:41+00:00] <VasilievVV> I have a .my.cnf copy
[2007-06-18T09:33:44+00:00] <_syphilis_> ok
[2007-06-18T09:34:15+00:00] <_syphilis_> if only mysql had some better way of doing authentication.. asking for a password for an already authenticated user is stupid
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[2007-06-18T10:36:23+00:00] <VasilievVV> http://tools.wikimedia.de/images/wikimedia-toolserver-button.png - is this image uploaded on Wikimedia Commons?
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[2007-06-18T14:16:05+00:00] <VasilievVV> Database Error: User 'daniel_www' has exceeded the 'max_user_connections' resource (current value: 30) (zedler.ts-local)
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[2007-06-18T14:29:59+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: Just a quick question, do we have, or am I permitted to run, an ftp server on the toolserver?
[2007-06-18T14:31:00+00:00] <valhallasw> Lcarsdata: you can transfer files over sftp
[2007-06-18T14:32:05+00:00] <Lcarsdata> valhallasw: I wanted to set up a system whereby users could request a username and password, then upload some files, and have that username somehow auto-expire after a given 'quota' or a certain time has been reached.
[2007-06-18T14:32:10+00:00] <Lcarsdata> This would be for the file upload service.
[2007-06-18T14:32:23+00:00] <valhallasw> what would be the use of that?
[2007-06-18T14:32:29+00:00] <Lcarsdata> and only image, audio and video files would be allowed
[2007-06-18T14:32:55+00:00] <Lcarsdata> valhallasw: Some users have tons of files which they want uploaded but haven't got the time\knowlege\means to do so.
[2007-06-18T14:33:05+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Maybe compressed files could also be allowed.
[2007-06-18T14:33:09+00:00] <valhallasw> but
[2007-06-18T14:33:20+00:00] <valhallasw> what users, to where, and why
[2007-06-18T14:34:04+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Wikimedia Commons users, to a secure directory on the toolserver, and so I can upload the files using my bot as they haven't got the time\knowlege\means to do so.
[2007-06-18T14:34:24+00:00] <valhallasw> right
[2007-06-18T14:34:30+00:00] <valhallasw> and why cannot people just upload to commons?
[2007-06-18T14:35:26+00:00] <Lcarsdata> valhallasw: Some people take hundreds of pictures and as I said they do not have the time to upload them all by hands. Other users (like me) have knowlege of how to use sophisticated upload scripts and also have tons of time.
[2007-06-18T14:35:41+00:00] <valhallasw> hm.
[2007-06-18T14:35:55+00:00] <Lcarsdata> let me get you a link
[2007-06-18T14:36:34+00:00] <Lcarsdata> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:File_upload_service
[2007-06-18T14:36:43+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ignore the how to use bit, that is irrelevant
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[2007-06-18T14:37:39+00:00] <valhallasw> ah right
[2007-06-18T14:42:09+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> My school sucks.
[2007-06-18T14:42:32+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> I tried to use putty there today but it won't le me connect to either the  toolserver or my webserver,
[2007-06-18T14:42:49+00:00] <Lcarsdata> alnokta: busy?
[2007-06-18T14:43:40+00:00] <valhallasw> Lcarsdata: there is a reason my ssh server runs on port 443 O-)
[2007-06-18T14:43:49+00:00] <Lcarsdata> valhallasw: :D
[2007-06-18T14:44:22+00:00] <alnokta> Lcarsdata, okay..ping me when you are free :)
[2007-06-18T14:44:28+00:00] <Lcarsdata> The TS runs on 22 which I presume is blocked, but suprisingly the web server one runs on 2222 (which is also blocked, or not blocked)
[2007-06-18T14:44:32+00:00] <Lcarsdata> alnokta: I am freem
[2007-06-18T14:44:46+00:00] <Lcarsdata> sorry I didn't get your PM, my screen on the toolserver was detacged
[2007-06-18T14:44:53+00:00] <Lcarsdata> and I was at school
[2007-06-18T14:45:16+00:00] <Lcarsdata> alnokta: still need help?
[2007-06-18T14:45:30+00:00] <Lcarsdata> valhallasw: If I was allowed I would keep my box on all the time, but I am not
[2007-06-18T14:45:38+00:00] <valhallasw> Lcarsdata: :)
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[2007-06-18T14:55:52+00:00] <Filnik> Hello
[2007-06-18T14:58:49+00:00] <Lcarsdata> h
[2007-06-18T15:00:16+00:00] <alnokta> ciao Filnik
[2007-06-18T15:00:22+00:00] <Filnik> ciao alnokta :)
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[2007-06-18T15:27:43+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I should find out how to set up an SSH server...
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[2007-06-18T15:58:42+00:00] <Lcarsdata> alnokta: bbl
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[2007-06-18T16:02:42+00:00] <VasilievVV> Why in .my.cnf on new accounts "user" and "password" are set, but "host" isn't set
[2007-06-18T16:02:46+00:00] <VasilievVV> ?
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[2007-06-18T16:31:48+00:00] <chuck> did hemlock just restart or did my processes just die for some reason?
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[2007-06-18T16:33:28+00:00] <ST47> They died.
[2007-06-18T16:33:36+00:00] <chuck> oh ok
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[2007-06-18T16:34:07+00:00] <White_Cat> ST47 can you give me some tech help
[2007-06-18T16:34:11+00:00] <ST47> Maybe
[2007-06-18T16:34:21+00:00] <ST47> (Speak)
[2007-06-18T16:35:07+00:00] <White_Cat> I shall speak then
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[2007-06-18T16:35:21+00:00] <White_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/71.222.81.30
[2007-06-18T16:35:24+00:00] <ST47> And by speak, I of course mean type
[2007-06-18T16:35:35+00:00] <White_Cat> can you give me some info on those two ips
[2007-06-18T16:35:54+00:00] <White_Cat> I do have a 3rd one too 71.222.66.184
[2007-06-18T16:36:01+00:00] <White_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AWikiProject_Kurdistan&diff=138869976&oldid=138843439
[2007-06-18T16:36:21+00:00] <ST47> They're all registered to a Denver-based ISP
[2007-06-18T16:36:33+00:00] <ST47> Let's see...
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[2007-06-18T16:37:15+00:00] <White_Cat> I would welcome a satelite image of the guy
[2007-06-18T16:37:28+00:00] <White_Cat> :P
[2007-06-18T16:37:35+00:00] <ST47> :)
[2007-06-18T16:38:02+00:00] <ST47> it doesn't look like a proxy
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[2007-06-18T16:38:54+00:00] <ST47> It's a dynamic IP'
[2007-06-18T16:40:19+00:00] <ST47> Do you have any users who you ae suspicious of? Any publicly in the colorado area?
[2007-06-18T16:40:48+00:00] <ST47> Checkusers say that none of those users you sent are from those IPs, or even on that ISP
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[2007-06-18T16:41:41+00:00] <ST47> Looks like that's all I can tell you
[2007-06-18T16:41:55+00:00] <Dodek> is any toolserver admin available?
[2007-06-18T16:42:10+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: Might be.
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[2007-06-18T16:57:11+00:00] <White_Cat> ST47 well
[2007-06-18T16:57:17+00:00] <White_Cat> there are plenty of people I can suspect
[2007-06-18T16:57:25+00:00] <White_Cat> cant checkuser toss out a list of users
[2007-06-18T16:57:34+00:00] <ST47> Checkuser is not for fishing
[2007-06-18T16:57:35+00:00] <White_Cat> any one of the participants of the wikiproject can be a suspect
[2007-06-18T16:57:38+00:00] <White_Cat> I know
[2007-06-18T16:57:43+00:00] <White_Cat> this isnt fishing
[2007-06-18T16:58:06+00:00] <White_Cat> there is an abusive user that came out of no where conviniently
[2007-06-18T16:58:13+00:00] <White_Cat> he makes edits too professional even for me
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[2007-06-18T18:33:52+00:00] <White_Cat> ST47 the floor is clean
[2007-06-18T18:33:58+00:00] <White_Cat> its now cleaner
[2007-06-18T18:34:16+00:00] <White_Cat> Betacommand do you really want to feed me to your bot?
[2007-06-18T18:34:25+00:00] <White_Cat> Think about it.
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[2007-06-18T18:44:11+00:00] <Betacommand> White_Cat: my bot would love you
[2007-06-18T18:44:46+00:00] <Betacommand> White_Cat: it eats anything
[2007-06-18T18:44:57+00:00] <White_Cat> yes
[2007-06-18T18:45:02+00:00] <White_Cat> and I am not a thing
[2007-06-18T18:45:08+00:00] <Betacommand> you are
[2007-06-18T18:45:11+00:00] <White_Cat> I have no use as an object
[2007-06-18T18:45:23+00:00] <White_Cat> let alone a person
[2007-06-18T18:45:48+00:00] <Betacommand> White_Cat: it liked vandals too
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[2007-06-18T18:59:11+00:00] <White_Cat> heh
[2007-06-18T18:59:18+00:00] <White_Cat> vandals offer more protein than me
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[2007-06-18T19:13:37+00:00] <White_Cat> Betacommand
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[2007-06-18T19:13:48+00:00] <Betacommand> what?
[2007-06-18T19:13:58+00:00] <White_Cat> ceiling cat looks like an angel next to me
[2007-06-18T19:14:34+00:00] <Betacommand> I am Hitler
[2007-06-18T19:14:46+00:00] <Betacommand> thus  you have nothing
[2007-06-18T19:15:06+00:00] <Betacommand> (at least if you take what people call me on wiki)
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[2007-06-18T20:40:50+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: YOu here?
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[2007-06-18T20:56:03+00:00] <DaB|Laptop> !replag
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[2007-06-18T20:56:21+00:00] <TheLetterE> Hello DaB
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[2007-06-18T22:02:27+00:00] <yrithinnd> !replag
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[2007-06-18T22:03:15+00:00] <yrithinnd> we will need third database server :(
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[2007-06-19T00:36:11+00:00] <_syphilis_> ST47: do you still need something?
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[2007-06-19T06:09:22+00:00] <NotACat> :(
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[2007-06-19T06:13:20+00:00] <_syphilis_> Lcarsdata: did you want something earlier?
[2007-06-19T06:13:45+00:00] <Lcarsdata> erm
[2007-06-19T06:13:47+00:00] <Lcarsdata> well
[2007-06-19T06:13:53+00:00] <Lcarsdata> it doesn't matter
[2007-06-19T06:14:01+00:00] <_syphilis_> ok
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[2007-06-19T09:15:46+00:00] <Filnik> Hi
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[2007-06-19T10:47:22+00:00] <Filnik> Hello
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[2007-06-19T11:48:38+00:00] <Danny_B|nakukuje> hello, is it possible that redirect table is corrupted, or just partially filled or whatever (i'm not db expert)? i'm looking for particular row which should exist according to the description of what the table should contain but it's not there
[2007-06-19T11:49:17+00:00] <DaB|Laptop> which row in which database?
[2007-06-19T11:49:46+00:00] <Danny_B|nakukuje> cs_wiki
[2007-06-19T11:50:44+00:00] <Danny_B|nakukuje> we have redirs $->Dolar %->Procento and I can't find them there. I probably do something wrong but I don't know what :-/
[2007-06-19T11:51:14+00:00] <Danny_B|nakukuje> I see those rows in pagelinks table though
[2007-06-19T11:53:47+00:00] <DaB|Laptop> Have you another example?
[2007-06-19T11:54:36+00:00] <Danny_B|nakukuje> not yet
[2007-06-19T11:54:42+00:00] <Danny_B|nakukuje> how many you need?
[2007-06-19T11:55:33+00:00] <DaB|Laptop> 1 which is a norm al word and not a single char :)
[2007-06-19T11:56:07+00:00] <Danny_B|nakukuje> will take some time...
[2007-06-19T11:58:16+00:00] <VasilievVV> Hello. Can anybody look, what is incorrect in my crontab:
[2007-06-19T11:59:14+00:00] <VasilievVV> 0 0,12 * * * python /home/vvv/pywikipedia/redirect.py -lang:ru -family:wikipedia
[2007-06-19T11:59:48+00:00] <Danny_B|nakukuje> DaB|Laptop: well the distinct count on redirect table is much different than count on page table where page_is_redirect = true - shouldn't that be +- same?
[2007-06-19T12:00:01+00:00] <Danny_B|nakukuje> trying to find any other redir
[2007-06-19T12:06:20+00:00] <Danny_B|nakukuje> DaB|Laptop: .BMP -> BMP | .7z -> 7-Zip | 'Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out!' The Rolling Stones in Concert -> Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out! | .NET Framework -> .NET and bunch of others. according to counts it looks like redirect table contains about 1/4 of existing redirects
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[2007-06-19T12:08:59+00:00] <DaB|Laptop> If there is a problem, that is not a toolserver-problem. TS and WM-Server shows me the same resultat
[2007-06-19T12:09:07+00:00] <DaB|Laptop> Perhaps the table is outdatet
[2007-06-19T12:12:19+00:00] <Danny_B|nakukuje> who to report it to then? tim & brion?
[2007-06-19T12:12:52+00:00] <DaB|Laptop> Danny_B|nakukuje: first ask in #mediawiki if the table is still used
[2007-06-19T12:15:02+00:00] <Danny_B|nakukuje> DaB|Laptop: well eg. $ is pretty ancient redir...  and the redirect table, as i see on mediawiki site has been introduced in 1.9
[2007-06-19T12:15:20+00:00] <Danny_B|nakukuje> however, i asked, no reply yet
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[2007-06-19T14:26:56+00:00] <Lcarsdata> gah, my school suck even more
[2007-06-19T14:26:58+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I can't even connect to freenode IRC
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[2007-06-19T14:34:59+00:00] <Lcarsdata2> Does anyone know of a packet analyser that I can use without installing?
[2007-06-19T14:35:16+00:00] <valhallasw> Lcarsdata2: there are a few
[2007-06-19T14:35:18+00:00] <valhallasw> sysinternals has one
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[2007-06-19T14:36:14+00:00] <Lcarsdata2> valhallasw: Quick question, what is port 443 used for?
[2007-06-19T14:36:24+00:00] <_syphilis_> http over ssl
[2007-06-19T14:36:27+00:00] <_syphilis_> (https)
[2007-06-19T14:36:31+00:00] <Lcarsdata2> oh, ok
[2007-06-19T14:43:32+00:00] <valhallasw> https generally is proxied without any content checking
[2007-06-19T14:43:53+00:00] <valhallasw> so it's possible to route ssh over an 'https'-connection
[2007-06-19T14:45:06+00:00] <Lcarsdata2> cool
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[2007-06-19T14:48:58+00:00] <Lcarsdata> 7a.) Resource Usage
[2007-06-19T14:48:58+00:00] <Lcarsdata> User may not:
[2007-06-19T14:48:58+00:00] <Lcarsdata> a) Use 25% or more of system resources for longer then 90 seconds. There are numerous activities that could cause such problems; these include: CGI scripts, FTP, PHP, HTTP, etc.
[2007-06-19T14:48:58+00:00] <Lcarsdata> b) Run stand-alone, unattended server-side processes at any point in time on the server. This includes any and all daemons, such as IRCD.
[2007-06-19T14:48:59+00:00] <Lcarsdata> c) Run any software that interfaces with an IRC (Internet Relay Chat) network.
[2007-06-19T14:49:01+00:00] <Lcarsdata> oops
[2007-06-19T14:49:05+00:00] <Lcarsdata> it sucks
[2007-06-19T14:50:50+00:00] <_syphilis_> "longer then"
[2007-06-19T14:50:53+00:00] <_syphilis_> nice and professional then
[2007-06-19T14:52:03+00:00] <valhallasw> :D
[2007-06-19T14:52:22+00:00] <Lcarsdata> :D
[2007-06-19T14:52:51+00:00] <valhallasw> Run stand-alone, unattended server-side processes <-- so... an irc deamon with an access terminal is allowed? O-)
[2007-06-19T15:04:34+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: Are you male?
[2007-06-19T15:07:15+00:00] <_syphilis_> i don't subscribe to any particular gender
[2007-06-19T15:08:38+00:00] <valhallasw> so you're an hermaphrodite? ;)
[2007-06-19T15:08:49+00:00] <_syphilis_> valhallasw: my nick used to be "zwitter" :)
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[2007-06-19T15:09:04+00:00] <valhallasw> :D
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[2007-06-19T15:19:58+00:00] <_syphilis_> Lcarsdata: didn't you see my photo anyway? :)
[2007-06-19T15:20:08+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: it has long hair,
[2007-06-19T15:20:19+00:00] <_syphilis_> er so?
[2007-06-19T15:20:21+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I know many males who would dye there hair red and make it long
[2007-06-19T15:20:27+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I also no many females who would also.
[2007-06-19T15:20:41+00:00] <valhallasw> this conversation is starting to get creepy
[2007-06-19T15:20:47+00:00] <_syphilis_> haha make it long.  my hair is natural, not extensions :)
[2007-06-19T15:21:06+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: bah, I meant naturally :P
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[2007-06-19T15:39:12+00:00] <DaB|Laptop> _syphilis_: Any problems to make the table ipblocks visible by normal users?
[2007-06-19T15:39:26+00:00] <_syphilis_> maybe, with autoblocks
[2007-06-19T15:39:40+00:00] <_syphilis_> i forget how they're stored
[2007-06-19T15:40:29+00:00] <_syphilis_> perhaps you can concoct a suitable view that doesn't expose that info, like for recentchanges
[2007-06-19T15:46:14+00:00] <valhallasw> you would need to filter for 'Autoblocked' comments
[2007-06-19T15:46:26+00:00] <valhallasw> i.e.
[2007-06-19T15:46:28+00:00] <valhallasw> Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "[[User:KvjBy0|KvjBy0]]"
[2007-06-19T15:46:28+00:00] <unilinky> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:KvjBy0?redirect=no
[2007-06-19T15:46:42+00:00] <valhallasw> (spammer on a local wiki here)
[2007-06-19T15:47:56+00:00] <_syphilis_> yeah, that won't work
[2007-06-19T15:48:45+00:00] <valhallasw> it might be possible to create a view that rescripts that to the original reason
[2007-06-19T15:49:18+00:00] <_syphilis_> in theory you can do anything in a view; but at some point it becomes too complicated
[2007-06-19T15:49:24+00:00] <valhallasw> yes
[2007-06-19T15:49:46+00:00] <valhallasw> 'select * from ipblocks where ipb_auto != 1' would be the practical approach
[2007-06-19T15:49:49+00:00] <valhallasw> probably
[2007-06-19T15:50:11+00:00]<!-- Lcarsdata still can't get his head around the difference between views and databaes...
[2007-06-19T15:50:25+00:00] <_syphilis_> a database is a real table with data in it
[2007-06-19T15:50:28+00:00] <valhallasw> a view is the result of a query
[2007-06-19T15:50:35+00:00] <_syphilis_> a view is a SELECT query that the server pretends is a table
[2007-06-19T15:50:42+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ok
[2007-06-19T15:50:45+00:00] <_syphilis_> it contains no data itself, it just represents data from other table(s)
[2007-06-19T15:50:52+00:00] <_syphilis_> er, a _table is a real table_ i mean
[2007-06-19T15:51:01+00:00] <_syphilis_> tables and views both exist inside databases
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[2007-06-19T15:51:10+00:00] <valhallasw> :)
[2007-06-19T15:51:11+00:00] <Lcarsdata> oh, ok
[2007-06-19T15:51:18+00:00] <valhallasw> because it is
[2007-06-19T15:51:21+00:00] <_syphilis_> enwiki_p is a database
[2007-06-19T15:51:23+00:00] <_syphilis_> it contains views
[2007-06-19T15:51:34+00:00] <valhallasw> that would be the more correct representation, yes
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[2007-06-19T15:51:53+00:00] <_syphilis_> we call what you see "the views" because it's easier than "the databases with the views that users can see"
[2007-06-19T15:51:54+00:00] <_syphilis_> :)
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[2007-06-19T15:56:15+00:00] <timichal> Edit count is powered by Linux 2.6.21.4-hemlock12-twincest
[2007-06-19T15:56:21+00:00] <timichal> haxxored kernel :o
[2007-06-19T15:56:39+00:00] <_syphilis_> <version>-hemlock<build number>-<name of person who built it>
[2007-06-19T15:56:43+00:00] <_syphilis_> it's a stock kernel
[2007-06-19T15:57:59+00:00] <alnokta> is it new to notify on long running queries?
[2007-06-19T15:58:12+00:00] <_syphilis_> no, but the daemon that does it wasn't running for a couple of days
[2007-06-19T15:58:14+00:00] <_syphilis_> i restarted it
[2007-06-19T15:58:27+00:00] <alnokta> ah..its nice :)
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[2007-06-19T16:11:42+00:00] <VasilievVV> !help
[2007-06-19T16:11:50+00:00] <VasilievVV> Can anybody look, what is incorrect in my crontab:
[2007-06-19T16:11:55+00:00] <VasilievVV> 0 0,12 * * * python /home/vvv/pywikipedia/redirect.py -lang:ru -family:wikipedia
[2007-06-19T16:12:53+00:00] <alnokta> where is the double or broken?
[2007-06-19T16:12:57+00:00] <_syphilis_> you put the command in quotes, and you didn't put a new line at the end
[2007-06-19T16:13:43+00:00] <VasilievVV> Thank you
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[2007-06-19T16:17:49+00:00] <_syphilis_> that's stupid.  if i wanted to offer the non-commercial Intel C/C++ compiler on hemlock, every user would have to obtain their own license to use it
[2007-06-19T16:18:09+00:00] <_syphilis_> maybe i'll ask them for an exemption
[2007-06-19T16:18:30+00:00] <Lcarsdata> non-commercial?
[2007-06-19T16:18:37+00:00] <Lcarsdata> oh
[2007-06-19T16:18:39+00:00] <Lcarsdata> intel
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[2007-06-19T16:27:12+00:00] <alnokta> why would they make an exception ?
[2007-06-19T16:27:22+00:00] <Lcarsdata> alnokta: Because we are Wikipedia.
[2007-06-19T16:27:32+00:00] <_syphilis_> because the faq says, if you think you should qualify for this license, send us email
[2007-06-19T16:27:42+00:00] <_syphilis_> and i think we should qualify :)
[2007-06-19T16:28:12+00:00] <alnokta> ah
[2007-06-19T16:28:23+00:00] <alnokta> goo luck then
[2007-06-19T16:28:31+00:00] <alnokta> +d
[2007-06-19T16:28:33+00:00] <_syphilis_> (it's clearly within the scope of the license, they just have this stupid thing where every user needs a license)
[2007-06-19T16:28:58+00:00] <alnokta> it don't work unless you have a license?
[2007-06-19T16:29:04+00:00] <_syphilis_> right
[2007-06-19T16:29:33+00:00] <_syphilis_> amazing, isn't it, people still use license keys :)
[2007-06-19T16:29:42+00:00] <alnokta> bad people ;)
[2007-06-19T16:30:21+00:00] <alnokta> someone was saying , validating legit software is harder than using cracks ;)
[2007-06-19T16:31:06+00:00] <_syphilis_> my laptop has a windows xp license key printed on the bottom.  it would be easier for me to find one on the internet than turn it upside down and write it down
[2007-06-19T16:31:49+00:00] <alnokta> :)
[2007-06-19T16:31:57+00:00] <alnokta> blacklisted
[2007-06-19T16:34:16+00:00] <alnokta> i love that detach thing
[2007-06-19T16:34:22+00:00] <alnokta> very convenient
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[2007-06-19T16:39:54+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I love the fact the toolserver has such a faster connection than my PC at home.
[2007-06-19T16:40:49+00:00] <alnokta> Lcarsdata, what is your home's?
[2007-06-19T16:41:14+00:00] <Lcarsdata> alnokta: I think it is 1MB\s into the router but 256kb\s into my box (due to wi-fi).
[2007-06-19T16:41:22+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Is java installed on the Ts?
[2007-06-19T16:41:32+00:00] <_syphilis_> yes it is
[2007-06-19T16:41:34+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> cool
[2007-06-19T16:42:09+00:00] <alnokta> Lcarsdata, from 1mb -> 256kb .. that is bad
[2007-06-19T16:42:15+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I know.
[2007-06-19T16:43:09+00:00] <Lcarsdata> How do I remove using wildcards?
[2007-06-19T16:43:17+00:00] <Lcarsdata> I want to remove all files starting with .
[2007-06-19T16:45:08+00:00] <alnokta> rm -rf
[2007-06-19T16:45:16+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ok
[2007-06-19T16:45:18+00:00] <_syphilis_> don't do rm -rf .*
[2007-06-19T16:45:23+00:00] <Lcarsdata> why?
[2007-06-19T16:45:24+00:00] <_syphilis_> it will try to remove . and ..
[2007-06-19T16:45:31+00:00] <timichal> that will remove all files starting with . - and many more!
[2007-06-19T16:45:47+00:00] <_syphilis_> (unless you use zsh, which is clever and doesn't include . and .. in .*)
[2007-06-19T16:46:08+00:00] <Lcarsdata> how do I do it then?
[2007-06-19T16:46:26+00:00] <_syphilis_> you could do rm .*
[2007-06-19T16:46:30+00:00] <_syphilis_> which will only delet files
[2007-06-19T16:46:55+00:00] <Lcarsdata> cool
[2007-06-19T16:48:51+00:00] <Lcarsdata> rm .*
[2007-06-19T16:48:53+00:00] <Lcarsdata> doesn't do anything
[2007-06-19T16:48:58+00:00] <_syphilis_> be more specific
[2007-06-19T16:49:03+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ok...
[2007-06-19T16:49:04+00:00] <Dodek> zsh would be cool if it supported utf.
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[2007-06-19T16:50:58+00:00] <VasilievVV> !dbadmin
[2007-06-19T16:51:11+00:00] <_syphilis_> can you not do that ! thing here please
[2007-06-19T16:51:18+00:00] <_syphilis_> just ask what you need
[2007-06-19T16:51:20+00:00] <VasilievVV> ok
[2007-06-19T16:51:35+00:00] <VasilievVV> Why ar_old_id and ar_text_id is replicated? It seems to be always 0
[2007-06-19T16:51:50+00:00] <_syphilis_> because someone might use code that assumes it exists
[2007-06-19T16:51:57+00:00] <_syphilis_> so it's there with a useless value
[2007-06-19T16:53:00+00:00] <VasilievVV> But it doesn't exists. So, if it don't exist, we can prevent somebody from it use
[2007-06-19T16:53:22+00:00] <_syphilis_> they'll stop using it fairly quickly when they see it doesn't work
[2007-06-19T16:54:32+00:00] <VasilievVV> But if they see that it doen't work, they'll save their time before thay saw that it doesn't work
[2007-06-19T16:57:48+00:00] <Lcarsdata> VasilievVV: Does anyone other than you give a shit?
[2007-06-19T16:58:43+00:00] <VasilievVV> No
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[2007-06-19T18:57:32+00:00] <Bryan> if I install a new cronjob using crontab -e, does apply immediately?
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[2007-06-19T19:03:15+00:00] <siebrand> Bryan: first occurance after saving
[2007-06-19T19:04:41+00:00] <Bryan> like I thought
[2007-06-19T19:04:47+00:00] <Bryan> unfortunately, that is not working
[2007-06-19T19:05:56+00:00] <Bryan> * * * * * "/home/bryan/projects/delinker/mem.sh"
[2007-06-19T19:06:32+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Bryan: Is there a new line at the end?
[2007-06-19T19:06:45+00:00] <Bryan> yes
[2007-06-19T19:07:49+00:00] <Lcarsdata> you don't need the "
[2007-06-19T19:10:51+00:00] <Bryan> but it should do no harm
[2007-06-19T19:11:08+00:00] <Bryan> it suddenly works
[2007-06-19T19:11:27+00:00] <Bryan> how mysterious
[2007-06-19T19:11:31+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Not really
[2007-06-19T19:11:42+00:00] <Lcarsdata> the colons wouldn't work on the command line, would they?
[2007-06-19T19:12:42+00:00] <skenmy> " <-- quotemark.
[2007-06-19T19:12:44+00:00] <skenmy> : <-- colon
[2007-06-19T19:12:52+00:00] <Bryan> oh, no it doesn't
[2007-06-19T19:13:02+00:00] <Bryan> I accidently run it from commandline :P
[2007-06-19T19:13:27+00:00] <Lcarsdata> *quotation mark
[2007-06-19T19:13:53+00:00] <Bryan> they do
[2007-06-19T19:14:03+00:00] <Lcarsdata> hmm
[2007-06-19T19:14:08+00:00] <Lcarsdata> weird
[2007-06-19T19:14:13+00:00] <Lcarsdata> anyway, problem solved
[2007-06-19T19:15:02+00:00] <Bryan> no, it isn't
[2007-06-19T19:15:05+00:00] <Bryan> [21:13:02]	<Bryan>	I accidently run it from commandline :P
[2007-06-19T19:15:12+00:00] <Bryan> so I thought it worked, but it didn't
[2007-06-19T19:15:45+00:00] <Lcarsdata> oh, ok
[2007-06-19T19:16:09+00:00] <Lcarsdata> maybe you should try putting:
[2007-06-19T19:16:13+00:00] <Lcarsdata> * * * * * sh /home/bryan/projects/delinker/mem.sh
[2007-06-19T19:16:23+00:00] <Bryan> it works for other sh scripts
[2007-06-19T19:16:32+00:00] <Lcarsdata> just try it
[2007-06-19T19:17:54+00:00] <Bryan> doesn't do anything
[2007-06-19T19:18:00+00:00] <Bryan> I don't even get an error message mailed
[2007-06-19T19:18:09+00:00] <Lcarsdata> hmm
[2007-06-19T19:18:28+00:00] <Lcarsdata> try "chmod /home/bryan/projects/delinker/mem.sh 755" from the command line
[2007-06-19T19:19:08+00:00] <Bryan> it already is 755
[2007-06-19T19:19:13+00:00] <Lcarsdata> hmm
[2007-06-19T19:19:21+00:00] <Lcarsdata> what is the chmod of other scripts
[2007-06-19T19:19:39+00:00] <Bryan> 700
[2007-06-19T19:19:44+00:00] <Bryan> i'm trying that
[2007-06-19T19:20:16+00:00] <Bryan> hmm no... I also have other scripts that are  755 and are working fine from cron
[2007-06-19T19:20:24+00:00] <Lcarsdata> od
[2007-06-19T19:20:25+00:00] <Lcarsdata> d
[2007-06-19T19:20:31+00:00] <Lcarsdata> what is the top line of that script?
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[2007-06-19T19:20:44+00:00] <White_Cat> Bryan can you write a tool that generates gallery code?
[2007-06-19T19:20:45+00:00] <Lcarsdata> and of the others?
[2007-06-19T19:20:49+00:00] <Bryan> same
[2007-06-19T19:20:59+00:00] <White_Cat> something that steals the first two sentence of image descriptions for example
[2007-06-19T19:21:03+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Bryan: What is the error message?
[2007-06-19T19:21:10+00:00] <Bryan> that's the whole problem
[2007-06-19T19:21:14+00:00] <Bryan> there is no error message
[2007-06-19T19:21:17+00:00] <Bryan> there is no message
[2007-06-19T19:21:22+00:00] <Bryan> there is nothing!
[2007-06-19T19:21:24+00:00] <Lcarsdata> hmm
[2007-06-19T19:21:29+00:00] <Lcarsdata> WTF?
[2007-06-19T19:21:36+00:00] <Lcarsdata> that is all i have to say
[2007-06-19T19:21:37+00:00] <Bryan> it's not even ever executed
[2007-06-19T19:21:52+00:00] <Lcarsdata> What is on the line above it in crontab?
[2007-06-19T19:22:01+00:00] <Bryan> 56 * * * * "/home/bryan/xbtt/autorun.sh"
[2007-06-19T19:22:08+00:00] <Bryan> that might be the problem...
[2007-06-19T19:22:23+00:00] <Lcarsdata> does that file exist?
[2007-06-19T19:22:24+00:00] <Bryan> hmm I now remember, I have had this once before
[2007-06-19T19:22:26+00:00] <Bryan> yes
[2007-06-19T19:22:33+00:00] <White_Cat> Bryan its so sad when a programmer is begging for an error
[2007-06-19T19:22:37+00:00] <White_Cat> isnt it?
[2007-06-19T19:22:40+00:00] <Bryan> yes
[2007-06-19T19:23:09+00:00] <Bryan> i've switched the lines
[2007-06-19T19:23:12+00:00] <Bryan> let's see...
[2007-06-19T19:24:43+00:00] <Bryan> works neither
[2007-06-19T19:24:43+00:00] <Lcarsdata> test
[2007-06-19T19:24:47+00:00] <Lcarsdata> hmm
[2007-06-19T19:24:53+00:00] <Bryan> frustrating
[2007-06-19T19:24:54+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Bryan: What is on the line below?
[2007-06-19T19:25:10+00:00] <Bryan> 56 * * * * "/home/bryan/xbtt/autorun.sh"
[2007-06-19T19:25:23+00:00] <Lcarsdata> and the line above?
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[2007-06-19T19:26:16+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Bryan: And above?
[2007-06-19T19:26:31+00:00] <Bryan> 45 13 * * * mysql --defaults-extra-file=/home/bryan/.my.cnf u_bryan </home/bryan/projects/flickreviewr/update.sql
[2007-06-19T19:26:36+00:00] <Bryan> (yes, that's long)
[2007-06-19T19:26:53+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ok
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[2007-06-19T19:27:41+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Bryan: Have any other crontab things executed since?
[2007-06-19T19:27:53+00:00] <Bryan> no
[2007-06-19T19:28:11+00:00] <Bryan> the next one is scheduled in less than an hour
[2007-06-19T19:28:14+00:00] <Bryan> will see
[2007-06-19T19:28:17+00:00] <Lcarsdata> You might have a problem with them, wait until then.
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[2007-06-19T19:29:23+00:00] <Bryan> found the problem
[2007-06-19T19:29:36+00:00] <Bryan> used a relative path in the script, which caused it to seem that it is never executed
[2007-06-19T19:29:47+00:00] <Lcarsdata> lol
[2007-06-19T19:30:06+00:00] <Lcarsdata> relative from crontab is a no no
[2007-06-19T19:30:20+00:00] <Bryan> it's sometimes so trivial...
[2007-06-19T19:30:37+00:00] <Bryan> bah, wasted 30 minutes on that
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[2007-06-19T19:31:25+00:00] <Bryan> works :D
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[2007-06-19T19:35:42+00:00] <Lcarsdata> _syphilis_: Would there happen to be a reason why all of Interiots scripts take ages to execute compared to everyone elses?
[2007-06-19T19:36:16+00:00] <Lcarsdata> w00t my idea for a bot name isn't taken anywhere.
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[2007-06-19T19:37:13+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Bryan: You have experience, how best is it to create and organise accounts on every wiki project?
[2007-06-19T19:37:49+00:00] <Bryan> I do not
[2007-06-19T19:37:59+00:00] <Lcarsdata> :(
[2007-06-19T19:38:03+00:00] <Bryan> OrgulloKmoore created all the CommonsDelinker accounts
[2007-06-19T19:38:12+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ahh
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[2007-06-19T19:39:56+00:00] <OrgulloKmoore> Bryan> I know that
[2007-06-19T19:40:31+00:00] <Lcarsdata> OrgulloKmoore: Can you help me? I need some advice on how to organise making an account on every single wiki and organising them all.
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[2007-06-19T19:41:38+00:00] <siebrand> OrgulloKmoore: hey dude :)
[2007-06-19T19:41:49+00:00] <siebrand> OrgulloKmoore: how's the holiday going?
[2007-06-19T19:42:16+00:00] <OrgulloKmoore> lcarsbot> well, I did it with a script. I talked to a developer and he showed me a backdoor to get around the captcha images. So if you can show a good motive for needing that many accounts, I would go that route
[2007-06-19T19:42:30+00:00] <OrgulloKmoore> siebrand> hey buddy...I'm back..I only stayed a month. It was aight :-p
[2007-06-19T19:42:45+00:00] <siebrand> OrgulloKmoore: ah, I thought you'd stay for 3 months or so.
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[2007-06-19T19:42:59+00:00] <siebrand> OrgulloKmoore: I had expected a call to meet up somewhere in the Netherlands
[2007-06-19T19:43:09+00:00] <OrgulloKmoore> siebrand> yeah, I thought so too...but I missed my family and friends all too much
[2007-06-19T19:43:33+00:00] <siebrand> OrgulloKmoore: as you may have noticed, we completely took over your baby and made it healthy :)
[2007-06-19T19:43:49+00:00] <Lcarsdata> OrgulloKmoore: Did you just ask them in channel, or did you PM them?
[2007-06-19T19:44:06+00:00] <siebrand> OrgulloKmoore: ah, great to hear you had fun (aside from the robbery in Spain on the first day) and that you got home safely.
[2007-06-19T19:45:14+00:00] <OrgulloKmoore> siebrand> hehe, good to hear about "my baby", I hadn't had time to notice yet...
[2007-06-19T19:45:44+00:00] <OrgulloKmoore> Lcarsdata> I asked them in #wikimedia-tech, I believe, and TimStarling was the one who set it up
[2007-06-19T19:45:56+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ok
[2007-06-19T19:46:06+00:00] <siebrand> OrgulloKmoore: Bryan basically rebuild the thing, and it now works with a checkusage in python.
[2007-06-19T19:46:17+00:00] <OrgulloKmoore> oh cool
[2007-06-19T19:46:34+00:00] <siebrand> OrgulloKmoore: universal replace was also built into it and has gome live 2 days ago
[2007-06-19T19:46:54+00:00] <OrgulloKmoore> tight
[2007-06-19T19:46:56+00:00] <siebrand> OrgulloKmoore: we have an admin bot on Commons to cleanup queued items (to edit the admin protected page)
[2007-06-19T19:47:23+00:00] <OrgulloKmoore> heh, you guys have come far :)
[2007-06-19T19:47:24+00:00] <Bryan> and we have this :) http://tools.wikimedia.de/~bryan/delinker.php
[2007-06-19T19:47:39+00:00] <OrgulloKmoore> niiiiiiice
[2007-06-19T19:47:40+00:00] <OrgulloKmoore> lol
[2007-06-19T19:47:43+00:00] <siebrand> OrgulloKmoore: check ~siebrand/pywikipedia/delinker.py for the current code. I'll be committed to pywikipedia once we also have local delinking and replacing, which is very handy for the larger wikipedias
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[2007-06-19T19:49:06+00:00] <OrgulloKmoore> that's awesome, guys. I've been trying to get slowly back into wikistuff...translating articles and whatnot, but I think I'm better at programming than translating/writing :( lol
[2007-06-19T19:49:56+00:00] <siebrand> OrgulloKmoore: do a cvs up and fix the FIXMEs of imagecopy.py ;)
[2007-06-19T19:50:11+00:00] <OrgulloKmoore> maybe later :-p
[2007-06-19T19:50:16+00:00] <siebrand> OrgulloKmoore: http://fkregex.sno.cc/wiki/Special:Recentchanges might also be interesting.
[2007-06-19T19:50:36+00:00] <siebrand> OrgulloKmoore: development wiki for MediaWiki bot stuff
[2007-06-19T19:50:51+00:00] <OrgulloKmoore> oh...we needed that
[2007-06-19T19:51:03+00:00] <Bryan> bah... http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immagine:Lamelle_icona.png
[2007-06-19T19:51:13+00:00] <Bryan> this is typically one a bot can't do :(
[2007-06-19T19:51:30+00:00] <Bryan> it's embedded in a very complicated template :(
[2007-06-19T19:52:35+00:00] <Martinp23> I hate to ask, but do we have any news on the long-awaited switch? :)
[2007-06-19T19:52:43+00:00] <valhallasw> see topic
[2007-06-19T19:52:51+00:00] <valhallasw> about a week
[2007-06-19T19:53:32+00:00] <OrgulloKmoore> those things are evil, Bryan
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[2007-06-19T19:53:44+00:00] <Bryan> yes, they are
[2007-06-19T19:53:46+00:00] <valhallasw> Bryan: that's a commons image?
[2007-06-19T19:53:49+00:00] <Bryan> yes
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[2007-06-19T19:53:54+00:00] <Martinp23> valhallasw: oops sorry, and thanks
[2007-06-19T19:54:21+00:00] <valhallasw> Bryan: I don't get the problem
[2007-06-19T19:54:27+00:00] <Bryan> siebrand: memory usage seems to be stable: http://tools.wikimedia.de/~bryan/delinker_mem.txt
[2007-06-19T19:54:42+00:00] <Bryan> valhallasw: it's embedded in [[it:Template:Micomorfobox]]
[2007-06-19T19:54:42+00:00] <unilinky> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/it:Template:Micomorfobox?redirect=no
[2007-06-19T19:54:53+00:00] <Bryan> but in such a way that it doesn't show up in image usage
[2007-06-19T19:55:23+00:00] <valhallasw> that's evil
[2007-06-19T19:56:18+00:00] <valhallasw> why am I getting *hourly* digests of pywikipediabot-users O_o
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[2007-06-19T20:11:25+00:00] <Bryan> valhallasw: probably because you have set it up like that? :P
[2007-06-19T20:12:07+00:00] <valhallasw> afaik there is only a choice between digest and non-digest
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[2007-06-19T20:13:18+00:00] <Bryan> oh, you want daily digest...
[2007-06-19T20:14:19+00:00] <Bryan> what is the difference between  VSZ   and RSS?
[2007-06-19T20:14:32+00:00] <Bryan> and moreover, what uses slayerd to kill processes?
[2007-06-19T20:16:44+00:00] <valhallasw> M.AGRIPPA.L.F.COS.TERTIVM.FECIT \o/
[2007-06-19T20:17:24+00:00] <valhallasw> (I found a stack of photo's of Rome photo's of my old school ;))
[2007-06-19T20:17:37+00:00] <Bryan> Pantheon
[2007-06-19T20:17:46+00:00] <valhallasw> aye
[2007-06-19T20:18:08+00:00] <Bryan> Marcus Agrippa, son of Lucius Cos*? made this in his third (consulate?)
[2007-06-19T20:18:21+00:00] <Bryan> third year?
[2007-06-19T20:18:43+00:00] <Bryan> oh, well the consulate was one year
[2007-06-19T20:18:52+00:00] <valhallasw> cos tertium, third consilate
[2007-06-19T20:18:54+00:00] <valhallasw> iirc
[2007-06-19T20:19:03+00:00] <Bryan> probably
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[2007-06-20T06:16:12+00:00] <LcarsdataTs> o.O
[2007-06-20T06:18:49+00:00] <Lcarsdata> eww,
[2007-06-20T06:18:49+00:00] <Lcarsdata> something has clogged up the toolserver
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[2007-06-20T06:23:40+00:00] <Lcarsdata> aww, the commonist won't run on the ts
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[2007-06-20T06:47:35+00:00] <_syphilis_> i'm thinking about how to replicate text to the toolserver
[2007-06-20T06:47:50+00:00] <_syphilis_> there's a lot of text, but it never changes and updates are pretty simple
[2007-06-20T06:47:57+00:00] <_syphilis_> it could probably go on a raid-5 volume
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[2007-06-20T06:52:09+00:00] <_syphilis_> hi dab
[2007-06-20T06:52:16+00:00] <DaB|Laptop> hello all
[2007-06-20T06:55:23+00:00] <Neko-at-Kinmu> hello DaB|Laptop
[2007-06-20T06:55:30+00:00] <Neko-at-Kinmu> on laptop? :P
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[2007-06-20T07:01:38+00:00] <_syphilis_> DaB|Laptop: i have an idea
[2007-06-20T07:02:00+00:00] <_syphilis_> DaB|Laptop: the new disk array in yarrow should hopefully perform much better than zedler's, because it's fast scsi disks
[2007-06-20T07:02:09+00:00] <_syphilis_> DaB|Laptop: if this is true, i suggest we buy one for zedler as well
[2007-06-20T07:02:19+00:00] <_syphilis_> DaB|Laptop: then use zedler's existing array to replicate the text clusters
[2007-06-20T07:02:54+00:00] <_syphilis_> (only problem: need to convince mark to let us use another 2RU :)
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[2007-06-20T07:21:46+00:00] <Neko-at-Kinmu> _syphilis_ why dont we buy SCSI raid disks?
[2007-06-20T07:22:53+00:00] <_syphilis_> didn't i just said that the new array has scsi disks?
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[2007-06-20T08:05:12+00:00] <DaB|Laptop> _syphilis_: first the new server has to go online, then we can see far :)
[2007-06-20T08:09:44+00:00] <_syphilis_> akl: any progress on replacing the disk?  it's best that it can arrive before mark does
[2007-06-20T08:09:48+00:00] <_syphilis_> so he can install it
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[2007-06-20T09:18:30+00:00] <_syphilis_> akl: re
[2007-06-20T09:22:48+00:00] <_syphilis_> alnokta: what is a staggered query?
[2007-06-20T09:23:13+00:00] <alnokta> _syphilis_, so it won't hang for that long
[2007-06-20T09:23:38+00:00] <_syphilis_> sounds like you need a streaming result set instead of buffered
[2007-06-20T09:23:44+00:00] <_syphilis_> how to do that depends on what client library you use
[2007-06-20T09:24:46+00:00] <alnokta> nice..now i'm lost ;)
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[2007-06-20T10:23:13+00:00] <DaB|Laptop> _syphilis_: do you know, if it is possible to insert a GregorianCalendar-Javaobject in a mysql-database without converting to a String first?
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[2007-06-20T11:32:32+00:00] <Filnik> Hi
[2007-06-20T11:33:49+00:00] <ST47> Hello
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[2007-06-20T12:26:43+00:00] <_syphilis_> DaB|Laptop: i _think_ so, yes
[2007-06-20T12:27:13+00:00] <_syphilis_> DaB|Laptop: IIRC, JDBC will convert Java date/time objects into the JDBC 'Date' type, which can be stored in a TIMESTAMP field in the database
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[2007-06-20T13:48:28+00:00] <chuck> hey
[2007-06-20T13:50:29+00:00] <valhallasw> lo
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[2007-06-20T14:30:52+00:00] <Annabel> !replag
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[2007-06-20T14:31:05+00:00] <Annabel> hmmm
[2007-06-20T14:35:09+00:00] <Bryan> not nice
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[2007-06-20T14:39:56+00:00] <Lcarsdata2> The toolserver been restarted?
[2007-06-20T14:41:48+00:00] <Lcarsdata2> maybe not
[2007-06-20T14:43:09+00:00] <Bryan> no
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[2007-06-20T14:44:12+00:00] <chuck> !replag
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[2007-06-20T14:44:19+00:00] <chuck> O.o
[2007-06-20T14:44:55+00:00] <valhallasw> _syphilis_: ping
[2007-06-20T14:45:11+00:00] <_syphilis_> only here if it's very important.  replag doesn't count
[2007-06-20T14:45:14+00:00] <valhallasw> any idea why my cvs commit mails are not working?
[2007-06-20T14:45:27+00:00] <_syphilis_> cvs commit mails?  where?
[2007-06-20T14:45:41+00:00] <valhallasw> cvs ci for pywikipediabot on hemlock
[2007-06-20T14:45:52+00:00] <_syphilis_> ask whoever maintains pywikipediabot cvs
[2007-06-20T14:46:03+00:00] <_syphilis_> cvs server sends the mail, not the client
[2007-06-20T14:46:13+00:00] <valhallasw> strange
[2007-06-20T14:46:20+00:00] <valhallasw> as other commits are having mails sent
[2007-06-20T14:46:29+00:00] <valhallasw> and cvs mentions
[2007-06-20T14:46:38+00:00] <valhallasw> 'Mailing pywikipediabot-users@lists.sourceforge.net...'
[2007-06-20T14:46:50+00:00] <_syphilis_> maybe your message got moderated
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[2007-06-20T14:47:30+00:00] <Bryan> valhallasw: pywikipedia's cvs mail only works *sometimes*
[2007-06-20T14:47:47+00:00] <valhallasw> _syphilis_: hm, yes, that could be
[2007-06-20T14:47:52+00:00] <valhallasw> Bryan: *grin*
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[2007-06-20T14:48:22+00:00] <Bryan> I get 25% of my commit emails bouncing
[2007-06-20T14:48:23+00:00] <valhallasw> erm, yeah
[2007-06-20T14:48:30+00:00] <Bryan> and randomly of course
[2007-06-20T14:48:44+00:00] <valhallasw> _syphilis_: d'oh. 'Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.'
[2007-06-20T14:48:55+00:00] <valhallasw> somehow those mails went unnoticed >_<
[2007-06-20T14:55:54+00:00] <Bryan> !replag
[2007-06-20T14:55:54+00:00] <replagbot> Bryan: s2: 0d 20h 6m 41s (72401s) [+337s in 702s]; s3: 4d 15h 44m 25s (402265s) [+505s in 702s]; s1: 140d 18h 0m 18s (12160818s) [+701s in 702s]
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[2007-06-20T15:45:32+00:00] <Lcarsdata> -replag
[2007-06-20T15:45:38+00:00]<TsLogBot> s1: (12163795s)
[2007-06-20T15:45:38+00:00]<TsLogBot> s2: (73365s)
[2007-06-20T15:45:38+00:00]<TsLogBot> s3: (403876s)
[2007-06-20T15:45:40+00:00] <ST47> s/-/!/
[2007-06-20T15:45:46+00:00] <Lcarsdata> -replag s1
[2007-06-20T15:45:47+00:00]<TsLogBot> s1: (12163810s)
[2007-06-20T15:45:52+00:00] <Lcarsdata> nope
[2007-06-20T15:45:54+00:00] <ST47> !replag
[2007-06-20T15:45:55+00:00] <Lcarsdata> the trigger is -
[2007-06-20T15:45:56+00:00] <replagbot> ST47: s2: 0d 20h 22m 55s (73375s) [+974s in 3001s]; s3: 4d 16h 11m 34s (403894s) [+1629s in 3002s]; s1: 140d 18h 50m 18s (12163818s) [+3000s in 3001s]
[2007-06-20T15:46:04+00:00] <ST47> !replag s1
[2007-06-20T15:46:05+00:00] <replagbot> ST47: s1: 140d 18h 50m 27s (12163827s) [+9s in 9s]
[2007-06-20T15:46:08+00:00] <Lcarsdata> hmm
[2007-06-20T15:46:29+00:00] <Lcarsdata> my code didn't work :(
[2007-06-20T15:46:32+00:00] <ST47> :(
[2007-06-20T15:46:42+00:00] <_syphilis_> another replag bot?
[2007-06-20T15:46:46+00:00] <ST47> :(
[2007-06-20T15:46:48+00:00] <_syphilis_> don't we have like 37 already
[2007-06-20T15:46:55+00:00] <_syphilis_> more bots doesn't make it lag any less
[2007-06-20T15:47:19+00:00] <ST47> _syphilis_, 37 bots? you're saying that of the 44 people in here, only 7 are people?
[2007-06-20T15:47:24+00:00] <Lcarsdata> !uptime
[2007-06-20T15:47:24+00:00] <replagbot>  15:47:24 up 10 days, 4:30, 23 users,  load average: 14.30, 12.13, 11.57
[2007-06-20T15:47:35+00:00] <_syphilis_> ST47: given how muc any of them talk, that's probably accurate :)
[2007-06-20T15:47:43+00:00] <ST47> True.
[2007-06-20T15:47:58+00:00] <_syphilis_> hmm, someone's running a piespy here.. wonder where the graph is
[2007-06-20T15:50:14+00:00] <valhallasw> GRRRR
[2007-06-20T15:50:24+00:00] <valhallasw> heh
[2007-06-20T15:50:38+00:00] <valhallasw> okay
[2007-06-20T15:50:44+00:00] <valhallasw> python is acting weird
[2007-06-20T15:51:02+00:00] <valhallasw> doesn't close after import wikipedia :|
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[2007-06-20T16:08:29+00:00] <chuck> -replag
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[2007-06-20T16:08:31+00:00]<TsLogBot> s2: (73918s)
[2007-06-20T16:08:31+00:00]<TsLogBot> s3: (404649s)
[2007-06-20T16:08:33+00:00] <chuck> !replag
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[2007-06-20T18:43:22+00:00] <vishwin60> !replag
[2007-06-20T18:43:22+00:00] <replagbot> vishwin60: s2: 0d 21h 25m 30s (77130s) [+3209s in 9287s]; s3: 4d 17h 43m 32s (409412s) [+4757s in 9287s]; s1: 140d 21h 47m 33s (12174453s) [+9278s in 9288s]
[2007-06-20T18:43:39+00:00] <vishwin60> :-(
[2007-06-20T18:45:55+00:00] <chuck> it's slowly increasing
[2007-06-20T18:49:17+00:00] <Lcarsdata> Martinp23: What pseudonym generator did you use?
[2007-06-20T18:49:32+00:00] <valhallasw> elvish name generator \o/
[2007-06-20T18:49:37+00:00] <Martinp23> lol :P
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[2007-06-20T18:50:27+00:00] <Martinp23> Lcarsdata: Not sure - it was just on a random website where I was registering, and wanted to be called "martin".  It suggested "Martinp23" to me :-)
[2007-06-20T18:50:37+00:00] <Lcarsdata> ok
[2007-06-20T18:50:42+00:00] <valhallasw> lol :D
[2007-06-20T18:51:15+00:00] <valhallasw> faelivrin?
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[2007-06-20T18:53:50+00:00] <chuck> according to this my pen name is Jon Stall: http://www.poemofquotes.com/tools/pen-name.php?name=Charlie&gender=male
[2007-06-20T18:54:36+00:00] <chuck> haha: http://www.fakenamegenerator.com/gen-male-us-us.php
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[2007-06-20T21:36:43+00:00] <rhododendron> hello
[2007-06-20T21:36:57+00:00] <chuck> hey rhododendron
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[2007-06-20T21:43:01+00:00] <dungodung> hi redwood
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[2007-06-20T22:11:24+00:00] <valhallasw> great
[2007-06-20T22:11:28+00:00] <valhallasw> I broke dovecot :<
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[2007-06-20T23:33:31+00:00] <rhododendron> just read the topic -> i'll believe if i see...
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[2007-06-21T00:17:06+00:00] <rhododendron> bye
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[2007-06-21T00:17:25+00:00] <chuck> !replag
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[2007-06-21T00:17:32+00:00] <chuck> Well, it's going down
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[2007-06-21T00:46:46+00:00] <chuck> be back later
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[2007-06-21T03:51:20+00:00] <[zelzany]> !replag
[2007-06-21T03:51:20+00:00] <[zelzany]> crap the bot didn't respond
[2007-06-21T03:51:20+00:00] <[zelzany]> !replag s2
[2007-06-21T03:51:20+00:00] <replagbot> [zelzany]: s2: 0d 16h 3m 31s (57811s) [-2172s in 12768s]; s3: 4d 20h 54m 32s (420872s) [+4726s in 12768s]; s1: 141d 6h 53m 19s (12207199s) [+12721s in 12768s]
[2007-06-21T03:51:20+00:00] <replagbot> [zelzany]: s2: 0d 16h 3m 31s (57811s) [0s in 0s]
[2007-06-21T03:51:20+00:00] <[zelzany]> there we go
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