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[2007-07-06T15:52:56+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	s3 is replicated now?
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[2007-07-06T15:53:11+00:00]	<twincest>	not yet
[2007-07-06T15:54:10+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	But it is already accessible?
[2007-07-06T15:54:22+00:00]	<yrithinnd>	no
[2007-07-06T15:54:29+00:00]	<yrithinnd>	almost i can't view
[2007-07-06T15:54:33+00:00]	<twincest>	yes, it is
[2007-07-06T15:54:36+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	...
[2007-07-06T15:54:46+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	It better be, I've been using it the last hour or so. ;)
[2007-07-06T15:55:23+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	I also have no access to it. It is on zedler?
[2007-07-06T15:55:25+00:00]	<yrithinnd>	twincest, ¿on zedler? i can't see eswiki_p
[2007-07-06T15:55:53+00:00]	<twincest>	yrithinnd: on sql-s3
[2007-07-06T15:55:55+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	It's on yarrow
[2007-07-06T15:56:03+00:00]	<twincest>	stop using server names that might change, that's why i added the aliases
[2007-07-06T15:56:08+00:00]	<dungodung>	!replag
[2007-07-06T15:56:08+00:00]	<replagbot>	dungodung: s1: 0d 0h 0m 1s (1s) [0]; s2: 0d 0h 0m 1s (1s) [0]; s3: 1d 16h 25m 35s (145535s) [+1187s in 1187s]
[2007-07-06T15:56:15+00:00]	<yrithinnd>	ok, my fault
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[2007-07-06T15:58:20+00:00]	<twincest>	Duesentrieb: it's something i'm going to consider when replication is working
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[2007-07-06T15:58:43+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	is there dblink for mysql?
[2007-07-06T15:58:52+00:00]	<twincest>	whats a dblink
[2007-07-06T15:59:19+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	oracle feature, remote table access. :)
[2007-07-06T15:59:30+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	There is an implimentation for pgsql too, but I've never used it.
[2007-07-06T15:59:46+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	twincest: ok, thanks. my candidates are: toolserver db, user dbs (at least some), and commons.
[2007-07-06T16:00:01+00:00]	<twincest>	gmaxwell: federated tables but it sucks
[2007-07-06T16:00:15+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	gmaxwell: something like that... called "federated tables" or some such.
[2007-07-06T16:00:33+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/federated-storage-engine.html
[2007-07-06T16:00:42+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	probably slow though
[2007-07-06T16:00:52+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	dblink in oracle is quite robust, it even preserves transactional integrity across multiple dbs.
[2007-07-06T16:01:08+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	(even for write queries)
[2007-07-06T16:01:21+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	Duesentrieb, why not pull the data into your own daemon?
[2007-07-06T16:01:32+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	what?
[2007-07-06T16:02:05+00:00]	<Luxo>	Uff my tools functions again with the new data bases.... :P
[2007-07-06T16:02:06+00:00]	<twincest>	hmm something is wrong with my replication client, or the mysql docs are wrong
[2007-07-06T16:02:17+00:00]	<dungodung>	or both
[2007-07-06T16:02:19+00:00]	<twincest>	the insert_id is getting offset by two bytes
[2007-07-06T16:02:31+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	basically: i would need to *have* a deamon, it means lots of useles data being transferred from the db, and it also means basically rewriting db functions.
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[2007-07-06T16:03:09+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	hm... until commons is replicated on yarrow, half my tools only work for s2.
[2007-07-06T16:03:27+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	Duesentrieb, Yes. .. but that might be less net work then maintaing a rats nest of cross replication forever.
[2007-07-06T16:03:41+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	and CheckUsage is completely broken :(
[2007-07-06T16:04:18+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	gmaxwell: the only high traffic replication should be commons, i guess. the rest of the data is probably more or less static
[2007-07-06T16:04:50+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	gmaxwell: it would mean a complete reqrite of my tools. might as well get rid of php and do it in java, etc.
[2007-07-06T16:05:18+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	i don't have time for that kind of thing until, oh, next year or something
[2007-07-06T16:05:25+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	:-/
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[2007-07-06T16:07:43+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	I suppose that if checkusage ever becamse a performance issue we could do something nuttly like replicate all image tables to one database just for checkusage ;)
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[2007-07-06T16:20:34+00:00]	<SomeWiktAdmin>	gmaxwell: I apologize for having enough edits on en.wp to trigger your letter. Your right though - I should get around to voting.
[2007-07-06T16:24:58+00:00]	<Kalan>	!replag
[2007-07-06T16:24:59+00:00]	<replagbot>	Kalan: s1: 0d 0h 0m 0s (0s) [-1s in 1730s]; s2: 0d 0h 0m 1s (1s) [0s in 1730s]; s3: 1d 16h 54m 25s (147265s) [+1730s in 1730s]
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[2007-07-06T16:26:06+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	SomeWiktAdmin, hehe! ;)
[2007-07-06T16:26:45+00:00]	<twincest>	okay, turns out the mysql docs are wrong (shock)
[2007-07-06T16:26:54+00:00]	<SomeWiktAdmin>	:-)
[2007-07-06T16:26:55+00:00]	<twincest>	now i need to uncorrupt s3 :)
[2007-07-06T16:27:08+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	OK. Who will fix scripts now?
[2007-07-06T16:28:37+00:00]	<Kalan>	twincest, and !replag will always give 0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/.../0 ?
[2007-07-06T16:31:58+00:00]	<twincest>	okay, db uncorrupted, trying replication again
[2007-07-06T16:32:00+00:00]	<twincest>	Kalan: yes
[2007-07-06T16:32:52+00:00]	<twincest>	!replag
[2007-07-06T16:32:52+00:00]	<replagbot>	twincest: s1: 0d 0h 0m 0s (0s) [0]; s2: 0d 0h 0m 2s (2s) [+1s in 474s]; s3: 1d 17h 1m 17s (147677s) [+412s in 474s]
[2007-07-06T16:32:59+00:00]	<twincest>	!replag
[2007-07-06T16:32:59+00:00]	<replagbot>	twincest: s1: 0d 0h 0m 1s (1s) [0]; s2: 0d 0h 0m 0s (0s) [-2s in 7s]; s3: 1d 17h 1m 12s (147672s) [-5s in 7s]
[2007-07-06T16:32:59+00:00]	<dungodung>	woot
[2007-07-06T16:33:12+00:00]	<twincest>	!replag
[2007-07-06T16:33:13+00:00]	<replagbot>	twincest: s1: 0d 0h 0m 0s (0s) [-1s in 13s]; s2: 0d 0h 0m 6s (6s) [0]; s3: 1d 17h 0m 58s (147658s) [-14s in 13s]
[2007-07-06T16:33:15+00:00]	<twincest>	okay good
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[2007-07-06T16:33:29+00:00]	<twincest>	s3 is using my super-awesome homemade replication client, because mysql only supports one master
[2007-07-06T16:33:32+00:00]	<twincest>	so uh, it might break. :)
[2007-07-06T16:34:01+00:00]	<Kalan>	twincest, is ruwiki located in s3?
[2007-07-06T16:34:15+00:00]	<dungodung>	where are the ts replag graphs again?
[2007-07-06T16:34:20+00:00]	<twincest>	Kalan: yes
[2007-07-06T16:34:22+00:00]	<dungodung>	and do they work now?
[2007-07-06T16:34:28+00:00]	<Kalan>	ah... :(
[2007-07-06T16:34:44+00:00]	<dungodung>	found them
[2007-07-06T16:35:33+00:00]	<twincest>	i don't know if the graphs are working
[2007-07-06T16:35:51+00:00]	<twincest>	!replag s3
[2007-07-06T16:35:51+00:00]	<replagbot>	s3: 1d 16h 57m 13s (147433s) [-225s in 159s]
[2007-07-06T16:36:01+00:00]	<dungodung>	nope. not working
[2007-07-06T16:36:13+00:00]	<dungodung>	at least for s3. that's my primary concern
[2007-07-06T16:37:53+00:00]	<twincest>	!replag s3
[2007-07-06T16:37:53+00:00]	<replagbot>	s3: 1d 16h 51m 16s (147076s) [-357s in 122s]
[2007-07-06T16:37:56+00:00]	<twincest>	hmm
[2007-07-06T16:38:02+00:00]	<twincest>	need to change something, it'll brb :)
[2007-07-06T16:39:41+00:00]	<twincest>	!replag s3
[2007-07-06T16:39:42+00:00]	<replagbot>	s3: 1d 16h 46m 39s (146799s) [-277s in 108s]
[2007-07-06T16:44:59+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	ok, my tools are back online, at least in principle. commons-related stuff onyl works for s2 :/
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[2007-07-06T16:51:00+00:00]	<twincest>	!replag s3
[2007-07-06T16:51:00+00:00]	<replagbot>	s3: 1d 16h 18m 48s (145128s) [-1671s in 679s]
[2007-07-06T16:59:48+00:00]	<twincest>	!replag s3
[2007-07-06T16:59:48+00:00]	<replagbot>	s3: 1d 16h 7m 57s (144477s) [-651s in 528s]
[2007-07-06T17:00:04+00:00]	<twincest>	stv: i think it should show the ratio of replication by real time
[2007-07-06T17:00:25+00:00]	<Kalan>	twincest, it's actually a bit faster...
[2007-07-06T17:00:40+00:00]	<twincest>	right, so the ratio will be > 1 :)
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[2007-07-06T17:09:24+00:00]	<twincest>	!replag s3
[2007-07-06T17:09:24+00:00]	<replagbot>	s3: 1d 15h 50m 37s (143437s) [-1040s in 576s]
[2007-07-06T17:09:42+00:00]	<Kalan>	it seems to become done in the morning
[2007-07-06T17:18:17+00:00]	<twincest>	i'll need to poke it later
[2007-07-06T17:18:27+00:00]	<twincest>	had to stop the binlog reader as it was going to buffer 2 days of binlogs in RAM :)
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[2007-07-06T17:33:08+00:00]	<stv>	!replag
[2007-07-06T17:33:09+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 0s [0]; s2: 3s [0]; s3: 1d 14h 56m 24s (140184s) [0]
[2007-07-06T17:33:20+00:00]	<stv>	< twincest> it 5 years it'll say "0s" instead of "0d 0h 0m 0s" :)
[2007-07-06T17:33:23+00:00]	<stv>	right.
[2007-07-06T17:33:52+00:00]	<twincest>	yay
[2007-07-06T17:38:33+00:00]	<twincest>	hmm, yarrow's mysqld uses 16G memory.. might need to adjust that
[2007-07-06T17:41:19+00:00]	<twincest>	!replag s3
[2007-07-06T17:41:19+00:00]	<replagbot>	s3: 1d 14h 55m 34s (140134s) [+48s in 180s]
[2007-07-06T17:41:43+00:00]	<twincest>	what database does it use for s3?
[2007-07-06T17:42:26+00:00]	<stv>	jawiki
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[2007-07-06T17:45:31+00:00]	<siebrand>	excellent work on the toolserver databases, admins. My compliments.
[2007-07-06T17:45:48+00:00]	<twincest>	nothing says "thanks" like a free crate of beer
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[2007-07-06T17:54:42+00:00]	<twincest>	!replag s3
[2007-07-06T17:54:43+00:00]	<replagbot>	s3: 1d 14h 42m 35s (139355s) [-779s in 803s]
[2007-07-06T17:56:32+00:00]	<twincest>	hmm, need to make trainwreck not replicate querycache
[2007-07-06T17:56:36+00:00]	<twincest>	or job
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[2007-07-06T18:00:18+00:00]	<twincest>	stopped replicationg for a bit, need to change the program
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[2007-07-06T18:05:57+00:00]	<twincest>	restarted
[2007-07-06T18:11:00+00:00]	<dungodung>	!replag s3
[2007-07-06T18:11:00+00:00]	<replagbot>	s3: 1d 14h 40m 56s (139256s) [-99s in 978s]
[2007-07-06T18:12:37+00:00]	<twincest>	it'd probably be faster if i used the multi-threaded replication writer, but i'm not entirely sure it's free of bugs yet :)
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[2007-07-06T18:23:48+00:00]	<twincest>	after the import, yarrow's disk is 74% full
[2007-07-06T18:23:55+00:00]	<twincest>	i wonder how long the space will last
[2007-07-06T18:24:24+00:00]	<valhallasw>	74%? of the 1TB?
[2007-07-06T18:24:33+00:00]	<twincest>	Filesystem size used avail capacity Mounted on
[2007-07-06T18:24:33+00:00]	<twincest>	ift 409G 301G 108G 74% /aux0
[2007-07-06T18:24:38+00:00]	<twincest>	(raid 10)
[2007-07-06T18:24:40+00:00]	<valhallasw>	ah, right
[2007-07-06T18:24:47+00:00]	<valhallasw>	raid5 is too slow?
[2007-07-06T18:24:50+00:00]	<twincest>	yes
[2007-07-06T18:24:54+00:00]	<twincest>	raid5 sux for databases
[2007-07-06T18:24:59+00:00]	<valhallasw>	yeah true
[2007-07-06T18:25:59+00:00]	<twincest>	if it runs out the verein can just buy another array ;-)
[2007-07-06T18:26:19+00:00]	<valhallasw>	yeah
[2007-07-06T18:26:54+00:00]	<valhallasw>	this north bridge fan is annoying me
[2007-07-06T18:27:05+00:00]	<valhallasw>	40mm fan, about 2 years old
[2007-07-06T18:27:08+00:00]	<valhallasw>	do the maths
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[2007-07-06T18:30:49+00:00]	<twincest>	hi dab
[2007-07-06T18:31:12+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	re
[2007-07-06T18:31:46+00:00]	<valhallasw>	lo
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[2007-07-06T18:36:17+00:00]	<twincest>	!replag s3
[2007-07-06T18:36:18+00:00]	<replagbot>	s3: 1d 14h 9m 25s (137365s) [-1891s in 1517s]
[2007-07-06T18:37:05+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	your new synctool?
[2007-07-06T18:37:12+00:00]	<twincest>	yes
[2007-07-06T18:37:21+00:00]	<twincest>	i should document it i suppose
[2007-07-06T18:37:42+00:00]	<HardDisk_WP>	!replag
[2007-07-06T18:37:42+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 0s [0]; s2: 1s [-1s in 3568s]; s3: 1d 14h 7m 42s (137262s) [-103s in 85s]
[2007-07-06T18:37:49+00:00]	<HardDisk_WP>	sweet
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[2007-07-06T18:39:48+00:00]	<twincest>	DaBPunkt: where did you document the other one?
[2007-07-06T18:40:57+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	https://wikitech.leuksman.com/view/Zedler/Replication
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[2007-07-06T18:45:32+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	twincest: did you changed something at the quota-command?
[2007-07-06T18:45:46+00:00]	<twincest>	no
[2007-07-06T18:45:47+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	Found
[2007-07-06T18:45:48+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	Jul  6 17:47:09 hemlock kernel: EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "nousrquota" or missing value
[2007-07-06T18:45:48+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	Jul  6 17:47:17 hemlock kernel: EXT3-fs: Cannot change quota options when quota turned on.
[2007-07-06T18:45:51+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	in the syslog
[2007-07-06T18:46:05+00:00]	<twincest>	yeah, i as trying to disable it to run quotacheck
[2007-07-06T18:46:08+00:00]	<twincest>	but apparently you can't :)
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[2007-07-06T18:46:36+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	ok
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[2007-07-06T18:50:27+00:00]	<twincest>	python 27690 dodek 3w REG 254,3 251250458 1311328 /home/dodek/pywikipedia/logs/interwiki.log (deleted)
[2007-07-06T18:50:29+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	twincest: Did you read something from edward?
[2007-07-06T18:50:40+00:00]	<twincest>	i think that's what's using his quota
[2007-07-06T18:50:48+00:00]	<twincest>	DaBPunkt: yes, i meant to ask maxsem about it, didn't get around to it yet
[2007-07-06T18:51:31+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	ok
[2007-07-06T18:53:52+00:00]	<valhallasw>	what the...
[2007-07-06T18:54:15+00:00]	<twincest>	valhallasw: please don't say that, makes me worried ;-)
[2007-07-06T18:54:22+00:00]	<valhallasw>	I should worry
[2007-07-06T18:54:33+00:00]	<valhallasw>	my lexer is identifying a single newline as a double :|
[2007-07-06T18:54:43+00:00]	<valhallasw>	i.e. I write buggy code
[2007-07-06T18:54:53+00:00]	<twincest>	oh, your loser
[2007-07-06T18:54:58+00:00]	<twincest>	i never write code with bugs in
[2007-07-06T18:55:08+00:00]	<valhallasw>	well
[2007-07-06T18:55:15+00:00]	<valhallasw>	at least *I* don't document it
[2007-07-06T18:55:16+00:00]	<valhallasw>	:p
[2007-07-06T18:55:39+00:00]	*** valhallasw forgot a .getchar() so the same character got tested twice
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[2007-07-06T18:56:17+00:00]	<valhallasw>	gooood :)
[2007-07-06T18:57:18+00:00]	<valhallasw>	but hey, at least the lexer works
[2007-07-06T18:57:19+00:00]	<valhallasw>	kinda.
[2007-07-06T18:57:28+00:00]	<valhallasw>	http://tools.wikimedia.de/~valhallasw/t.txt ( [[m:Toolserver]] ;))
[2007-07-06T18:57:44+00:00]	<valhallasw>	now the hard thing..parsing it :(
[2007-07-06T18:58:27+00:00]	<valhallasw>	which gets even harder because of that fan whining in my ear >_<
[2007-07-06T18:58:55+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	BTW: The java-mysql-libery is moved to /usr/share/java and now maintence by the debian-package-system. I created symlinks from the old position
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[2007-07-06T19:01:43+00:00]	<twincest>	!replag s3
[2007-07-06T19:01:43+00:00]	<replagbot>	s3: 1d 13h 44m 25s (135865s) [-1397s in 1441s]
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[2007-07-06T19:19:24+00:00]	<mashiah>	!replag
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[2007-07-06T19:31:07+00:00]	<VasilVV>	!replag
[2007-07-06T19:31:07+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 1s [0s in 703s]; s2: 4s [+2s in 703s]; s3: 1d 13h 17m 46s (134266s) [-177s in 703s]
[2007-07-06T19:31:12+00:00]	<VasilVV>	!replag
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[2007-07-06T19:31:32+00:00]	<VasilVV>	!replag s3
[2007-07-06T19:31:32+00:00]	<replagbot>	s3: 1d 13h 17m 57s (134277s) [+10s in 20s]
[2007-07-06T19:31:34+00:00]	<HardDisk_WP>	!repl4g
[2007-07-06T19:31:45+00:00]	<VasilVV>	replag increase...
[2007-07-06T19:31:48+00:00]	<HardDisk_WP>	damn, the old version supported 1337 commands :X
[2007-07-06T19:31:51+00:00]	<HardDisk_WP>	!replag s3
[2007-07-06T19:31:52+00:00]	<replagbot>	s3: 1d 13h 18m 7s (134287s) [+10s in 19s]
[2007-07-06T19:31:57+00:00]	<twincest>	no, there just aren't updates to jawiki
[2007-07-06T19:32:15+00:00]	<twincest>	looks like its mostly doing ruiktionary atm :)
[2007-07-06T19:32:23+00:00]	<VasilVV>	!replag s3
[2007-07-06T19:32:23+00:00]	<replagbot>	s3: 1d 13h 18m 25s (134305s) [+18s in 32s]
[2007-07-06T19:32:36+00:00]	<HardDisk_WP>	twincest, who coded replagbot? you?
[2007-07-06T19:32:50+00:00]	<twincest>	no, stv
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[2007-07-06T20:18:39+00:00]	<rhododendron>	hello
[2007-07-06T20:20:13+00:00]	<valhallasw>	lo
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[2007-07-06T20:25:49+00:00]	<twincest>	hmm
[2007-07-06T20:25:55+00:00]	<twincest>	text import on clematis has done 13G :)
[2007-07-06T20:27:59+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	is it just me or is /!interiot not working
[2007-07-06T20:28:00+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	:-/
[2007-07-06T20:28:16+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	/~interiot*
[2007-07-06T20:31:18+00:00]	<twincest>	!replag s3
[2007-07-06T20:31:18+00:00]	<replagbot>	s3: 1d 13h 32m 37s (135157s) [+388s in 596s]
[2007-07-06T20:31:25+00:00]	<dungodung>	:(
[2007-07-06T20:32:41+00:00]	<twincest>	replication reader lost the connection
[2007-07-06T20:40:21+00:00]	<twincest>	!replag s3
[2007-07-06T20:40:21+00:00]	<replagbot>	s3: 1d 13h 25m 23s (134723s) [-434s in 543s]
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[2007-07-06T20:40:51+00:00]	<dungodung>	that's more like it
[2007-07-06T20:40:55+00:00]	<twincest>	hr akl
[2007-07-06T20:40:59+00:00]	<twincest>	hr->hi
[2007-07-06T20:46:05+00:00]	<Misza13>	is there a way to get the list of namespace names from the database?
[2007-07-06T20:46:13+00:00]	<twincest>	toolserver.namespace table
[2007-07-06T20:46:17+00:00]	<twincest>	but it's maintained manually
[2007-07-06T20:46:55+00:00]	<valhallasw>	you could read the MediaWiki namespace pages on those wiki's, I suppose
[2007-07-06T20:46:59+00:00]	<valhallasw>	not sure though
[2007-07-06T20:47:11+00:00]	<valhallasw>	might be fun for an automagic update for pywikipediabot :D
[2007-07-06T20:47:34+00:00]	<Misza13>	heh, I know I can do this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=namespaces
[2007-07-06T20:47:49+00:00]	<Misza13>	I'd just could use a list o these in mw
[2007-07-06T20:48:01+00:00]	<valhallasw>	edit api.php and see what query it uses?
[2007-07-06T20:48:13+00:00]	<Misza13>	and toolserver database is not available on yarrow
[2007-07-06T20:48:33+00:00]	<twincest>	i bet if you tried really hard you could open a connection to both servers at once
[2007-07-06T20:48:34+00:00]	<twincest>	:)
[2007-07-06T20:48:34+00:00]	<Misza13>	valhallasw: I strongly suspect it checks MessagesXX.php
[2007-07-06T20:49:03+00:00]	*** Misza13 would prefer a simple join :)
[2007-07-06T20:49:15+00:00]	<valhallasw>	it's hard-coded? O_o
[2007-07-06T20:49:34+00:00]	<Misza13>	in that sense, I could as well query the wikis periodically and cache the results...
[2007-07-06T20:49:44+00:00]	<twincest>	Misza13: that is what the toolserver.namespace table is
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[2007-07-06T20:50:02+00:00]	<valhallasw>	twincest: it could be updated automagically?
[2007-07-06T20:50:11+00:00]	<twincest>	i think daniel has a script that updates it
[2007-07-06T20:50:14+00:00]	<twincest>	could be cronned probably
[2007-07-06T20:50:17+00:00]	<valhallasw>	ah
[2007-07-06T20:50:35+00:00]	<Misza13>	valhallasw: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php?revision=23750&view=markup
[2007-07-06T20:50:49+00:00]	<Misza13>	I guess I would call that hardcoded...
[2007-07-06T20:51:02+00:00]	<valhallasw>	* You can make your customizations on the wiki. * While logged in as a sysop user, go to [[Special:Allmessages]] * and edit the MediaWiki:* pages listed there.
[2007-07-06T20:51:14+00:00]	<twincest>	you can't change namespace names from the wiki
[2007-07-06T20:51:17+00:00]	<twincest>	have to edit the config file
[2007-07-06T20:51:33+00:00]	<valhallasw>	k
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[2007-07-06T20:52:01+00:00]	<twincest>	!replag s3
[2007-07-06T20:52:01+00:00]	<replagbot>	s3: 1d 13h 3m 7s (133387s) [-1336s in 700s]
[2007-07-06T20:52:07+00:00]	<dungodung>	ok, I just got logged out of ts, but when I reconnected I got
[2007-07-06T20:52:25+00:00]	<dungodung>	You are already logged in from the following host(s)
[2007-07-06T20:52:31+00:00]	<valhallasw>	yes
[2007-07-06T20:52:43+00:00]	<valhallasw>	if that is your host, the connection did not close properly
[2007-07-06T20:52:43+00:00]	<dungodung>	twincest: can you nuke it? (pts/72)
[2007-07-06T20:52:45+00:00]	<twincest>	dungodung: it probably didn't notice your disconnect yet
[2007-07-06T20:52:48+00:00]	<twincest>	dungodung: just ignore it
[2007-07-06T20:52:51+00:00]	<valhallasw>	if that is *not* your host, scream ;)
[2007-07-06T20:52:51+00:00]	<dungodung>	oh, ok
[2007-07-06T20:52:52+00:00]	<twincest>	it'll go away eventually
[2007-07-06T20:52:57+00:00]	<dungodung>	yes, it is my IP
[2007-07-06T20:53:06+00:00]	<dungodung>	:)
[2007-07-06T20:54:42+00:00]	<byrial>	I am in the process of adjusting my webtools to the new database structure. I have a tool which reads selected data into a temporary table. Something like: "INSERT INTO u_byrial.subcats SELECT page_id, 0, page_title FROM dawiki_p.page WHERE some_condition". I cannot do that any longer except for databases on sql-s2 where my private db resides. Could it be possible to get a database with write access for temporary tables on yarro
[2007-07-06T20:55:23+00:00]	<twincest>	i am thinking about how best to do that
[2007-07-06T20:56:00+00:00]	<byrial>	Sounds good. Hope you find a good solution
[2007-07-06T20:56:23+00:00]	<twincest>	at least i'll probably replicate toolserver and user databases to yarrow, but they would be read only
[2007-07-06T20:56:29+00:00]	<twincest>	so for your use, another thing is needed
[2007-07-06T20:56:38+00:00]	<twincest>	although hmm
[2007-07-06T20:56:39+00:00]	<byrial>	read only will not help here
[2007-07-06T20:56:49+00:00]	<twincest>	replication won't work if someone does an insert select
[2007-07-06T20:56:55+00:00]	<twincest>	because the tables the select uses aren't there
[2007-07-06T20:57:38+00:00]	<twincest>	Duesentrieb: do you need your user data available in both places?
[2007-07-06T20:58:04+00:00]	<byrial>	Maybe a single public databse for everyone to use ?
[2007-07-06T21:01:27+00:00]	<byrial>	I only need to insert into temporary tables from public tables. Later the temporary table is joined with a public table. The data don't need to be available both places at the same time.
[2007-07-06T21:03:32+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	twincest: most importantly, i need commons in both places... the user db would be handy for some things... or perhaps u_daniel_cache, not u_daniel. I need to loko it up again.
[2007-07-06T21:04:13+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	basically, i have some tables that tell me which templates are deletion templates, etc... but i'm not quite sure how and where they are currently used.
[2007-07-06T21:04:25+00:00]	<twincest>	ok
[2007-07-06T21:04:40+00:00]	<twincest>	the thing is replicating user data will be very difficult because of what i said above
[2007-07-06T21:04:43+00:00]	<twincest>	(commons is easy)
[2007-07-06T21:05:40+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	read-only would be ok for user dbs & toolserver db.
[2007-07-06T21:05:57+00:00]	<twincest>	no, making user data available _at all_, even read only
[2007-07-06T21:06:46+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	twincest: if i understand correctly, byrial needs a way to create a temp table on yarrow - would that need a dummy database? or can "create temp table" be granted without reference to a specific db?
[2007-07-06T21:06:59+00:00]	<twincest>	that's no problem
[2007-07-06T21:07:09+00:00]	<twincest>	i'll just add some unreplicated user dbs there
[2007-07-06T21:08:00+00:00]	<byrial>	A common database at yarrow with no tables but grants for all for "CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES", "INSERT", "UPDATE", "DELETE", "DROP", "ALTER", "INDEX", "LOCK TABLES", "SELECT" would be fine for me.
[2007-07-06T21:08:20+00:00]	<twincest>	that's no easier, you can't grant something to everyone in mysql
[2007-07-06T21:08:23+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	byrial: uh, "drop"??
[2007-07-06T21:08:34+00:00]	<byrial>	drop tables
[2007-07-06T21:08:48+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	other peoples tables?
[2007-07-06T21:09:10+00:00]	<byrial>	You cannot access them if it only contains temporary tables
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[2007-07-06T21:09:12+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	byrial: you know, people are sharing a namespace here... you would have to be very carful to enforce naming conventions to avoid conflicts.
[2007-07-06T21:09:34+00:00]	<byrial>	No problem if all tables are temporary
[2007-07-06T21:09:36+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	byrial: well, if it's only for temporary tables, you don't need any of the rights except "create temporary table"
[2007-07-06T21:09:50+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	"create", "drop", etc refers to *real* tables
[2007-07-06T21:10:39+00:00]	<byrial>	OK I did not know that. Do the creator have rights on a temporary table?
[2007-07-06T21:12:22+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	well, i havn't tried it lately, but i assume so. it wouldn't make sense otherwise.
[2007-07-06T21:12:37+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	a temp table only exists inside a connection.
[2007-07-06T21:12:52+00:00]	<twincest>	it would be kind of stupid if you could create a temporary table and then not do anything with it :)
[2007-07-06T21:12:58+00:00]	<twincest>	(mysql temp tables are not like oracle)
[2007-07-06T21:13:02+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	it's not visible to any other user, or even to the same user. so, preventing any access would make no sense
[2007-07-06T21:19:51+00:00]	<twincest>	!replag s3
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[2007-07-06T21:53:14+00:00]	<Misza13>	\o/ http://tools.wikimedia.org/~misza13/cgi-bin/count.py \o/
[2007-07-06T21:53:54+00:00]	<twincest>	another edit counter?
[2007-07-06T21:54:49+00:00]	<Misza13>	dunno - interiot's down...
[2007-07-06T21:55:20+00:00]	<Misza13>	all the rest I've seen scrap Special:Contribs
[2007-07-06T21:55:31+00:00]	<twincest>	mine still works :) once you add the new db logic
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[2007-07-06T21:56:33+00:00]	<twincest>	[Bug 145] New: Doesn't work
[2007-07-06T21:56:51+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	LOL
[2007-07-06T21:56:53+00:00]	<twincest>	awesome description there
[2007-07-06T21:57:24+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	Post as answer "Ich brauche mehr Details" (Hallervorden) ;)
[2007-07-06T21:57:46+00:00]	<dungodung>	!replag
[2007-07-06T21:57:52+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 1s [0s in 5784s]; s2: 10s [+8s in 5790s]; s3: 1d 11h 51m 38s (129098s) [-3054s in 2281s]
[2007-07-06T21:58:34+00:00]	<Misza13>	truth is, there is no frwiki_p database ;>
[2007-07-06T21:59:28+00:00]	<Misza13>	def getHost(dbname):
[2007-07-06T21:59:28+00:00]	<Misza13>	if dbname == 'enwiki_p':
[2007-07-06T21:59:29+00:00]	<Misza13>	return 'yarrow'
[2007-07-06T21:59:29+00:00]	<Misza13>	else:
[2007-07-06T21:59:29+00:00]	<Misza13>	return 'sql'
[2007-07-06T21:59:36+00:00]	<Misza13>	"db logic" :P
[2007-07-06T21:59:58+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	Bad
[2007-07-06T22:00:03+00:00]	<twincest>	that ain't gonna work so well for s2
[2007-07-06T22:00:04+00:00]	<Luxo>	Very Bad ;)
[2007-07-06T22:00:04+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	s3 is also on yarrow
[2007-07-06T22:00:05+00:00]	<twincest>	er, s3
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[2007-07-06T22:00:41+00:00]	<Luxo>	+1
[2007-07-06T22:00:47+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	s1,s2,s3,meta
[2007-07-06T22:00:54+00:00]	<Misza13>	speaking of which... is there a database<->server mapping anywhere?
[2007-07-06T22:00:59+00:00]	<twincest>	+ you shouldn't ever refer to 'zedler' or 'yarrow'
[2007-07-06T22:01:05+00:00]	<twincest>	Misza13: toolserver.wiki, 'server' table
[2007-07-06T22:01:14+00:00]	<Misza13>	thx
[2007-07-06T22:01:16+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	sql-s#
[2007-07-06T22:01:27+00:00]	<Misza13>	well, 'zedler' doesn't work in fact
[2007-07-06T22:01:34+00:00]	<twincest>	zedler.ts-local would
[2007-07-06T22:01:35+00:00]	<Luxo>	VasilievVV: meta = 'sql' ?
[2007-07-06T22:01:38+00:00]	<twincest>	but dont do that :)
[2007-07-06T22:01:43+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	Yes
[2007-07-06T22:02:04+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	twincest: user table and toolsever table = sql
[2007-07-06T22:02:06+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	?
[2007-07-06T22:02:08+00:00]	<twincest>	yep
[2007-07-06T22:02:21+00:00]	<twincest>	didn't see any reason to change that, may as not not break existing things for no reason
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[2007-07-06T22:02:59+00:00]	<Luxo>	in http://tools.wikimedia.de/~luxo/contributions/contributions.php?lang=en i have also 4 connections... :S
[2007-07-06T22:07:39+00:00]	<Misza13>	mysql> select server from wiki where dbname = 'toolserver';
[2007-07-06T22:07:39+00:00]	<Misza13>	Empty set (0.00 sec)
[2007-07-06T22:07:41+00:00]	<Misza13>	:>
[2007-07-06T22:07:49+00:00]	<twincest>	thats not a wiki
[2007-07-06T22:09:09+00:00]	<Misza13>	reminds me life is far from perfect...
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[2007-07-06T22:22:02+00:00]	<mashiah>	!куздфп
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[2007-07-06T22:22:09+00:00]	<mashiah>	!replag
[2007-07-06T22:22:09+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 1s [0s in 1463s]; s2: 2s [-8s in 1457s]; s3: 1d 11h 30m 54s (127854s) [-1244s in 1457s]
[2007-07-06T22:23:33+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	!replag
[2007-07-06T22:23:33+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 2s [+1s in 84s]; s2: 2s [0s in 84s]; s3: 1d 11h 30m 32s (127832s) [-22s in 84s]
[2007-07-06T22:23:45+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	s3 is going down slowly
[2007-07-06T22:24:12+00:00]	<mashiah>	-1244 in 1457, not so bad
[2007-07-06T22:24:20+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Soon there will be no need for replag checks, because you'll be trusting the server to keep stable at < 5secs
[2007-07-06T22:24:34+00:00]	<mashiah>	why hope so
[2007-07-06T22:24:35+00:00]	<mashiah>	?
[2007-07-06T22:24:50+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Hmm, s1 and s2 did it..
[2007-07-06T22:25:07+00:00]	<mashiah>	are bots already run?
[2007-07-06T22:26:55+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	?
[2007-07-06T22:28:43+00:00]	<mashiah>	I'm awaiting fot s3 replag down in order to run some queries to slow the server down, then I apply the changes to slow down the replication process. I think each script of every user does like this, more or less.
[2007-07-06T22:29:25+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	Good nightz
[2007-07-06T22:29:31+00:00]	<twincest>	nn
[2007-07-06T22:29:33+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Night DaB
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[2007-07-06T22:48:14+00:00]	<mashiah>	why can't see ruwiki_p? who knows?
[2007-07-06T22:48:31+00:00]	<valhallasw>	mashiah: what server are you using?
[2007-07-06T22:48:47+00:00]	<mashiah>	hemlock
[2007-07-06T22:48:58+00:00]	<valhallasw>	what *database* server
[2007-07-06T22:49:20+00:00]	<valhallasw>	sql?
[2007-07-06T22:49:29+00:00]	<mashiah>	you mean connecting to mysql? I use sql, right
[2007-07-06T22:49:45+00:00]	<twincest>	ruwiki is in s3, connect to sql-s3
[2007-07-06T22:49:58+00:00]	<mashiah>	thanks a lot
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[2007-07-06T22:53:16+00:00]	<mashiah>	ok, the question is how to query s3 database when I log in into my own database. previously I used ruwiki_p. preffix but it does not work. My own db is on sql I suppose...
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[2007-07-06T22:54:26+00:00]	<TheLetterE-Away>	s1 db is connected by using 'sql-s1', s2 db is connected by using 'sql-s2
[2007-07-06T22:54:28+00:00]	<TheLetterE-Away>	etc
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[2007-07-06T22:57:01+00:00]	<mashiah>	again, when I try to log to sql-s2 the query to ruwiki_p fails probably because it is in the different database. When I try to login with my own database name on s3 I see the access deny message
[2007-07-06T22:57:23+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Hmm, twincest? Whats going wrong
[2007-07-06T22:57:25+00:00]	<twincest>	what command are you using to connect
[2007-07-06T22:57:32+00:00]	<twincest>	and paste the entire error
[2007-07-06T22:58:42+00:00]	<mashiah>	mysql --host=sql-s2 --user=mashiah --password=... --database=ruwiki_p < myscript.sql and myscript needs an access to ruwiki_p
[2007-07-06T22:59:20+00:00]	<mashiah>	ERROR 1146 (42S02) at line 161: Table 'ruwiki_p.page' doesn't exist ----- doing this way and
[2007-07-06T22:59:57+00:00]	<twincest>	the error from sql-s3
[2007-07-06T22:59:59+00:00]	<mashiah>	ERROR 1044 (42000): Access denied for user 'mashiah'@'hemlock.ts.wikimedia.org' to database 'u_mashiah' trying to login to s3
[2007-07-06T23:00:12+00:00]	<twincest>	you didn't specify the database
[2007-07-06T23:00:22+00:00]	<twincest>	mysql -hsql-s3 ruwiki_p
[2007-07-06T23:02:18+00:00]	<mashiah>	sorry, I've made a mistake, the line I use is: mysql --host=sql-s2 --user=mashiah --password=... --database=mashiah_u < myscript.sql and myscript needs an access to ruwiki_p
[2007-07-06T23:03:08+00:00]	<mashiah>	so, I need to login to my own db as per current version of script myscript.sql
[2007-07-06T23:04:24+00:00]	<twincest>	you need to connect to sql-s3 to use ruwiki_p
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[2007-07-06T23:04:54+00:00]	<mashiah>	is this the reason my db named u_mashiah need to be moved to s3?
[2007-07-06T23:05:32+00:00]	<twincest>	i'm not moving any user databases to s3
[2007-07-06T23:05:41+00:00]	<twincest>	there might be separate user databases there at some point
[2007-07-06T23:06:52+00:00]	<mashiah>	when I connect to s3 I do not see my db, this is the problem for me
[2007-07-06T23:07:08+00:00]	<twincest>	yes, because the user databases are on a different server than s3
[2007-07-06T23:07:42+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	mashiah: if i understand the plan correctly, you'll have to wait for a user db to be set upfor you there - and then copy the important stuff to both your dbs, always.
[2007-07-06T23:08:01+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	automatic replication would be nice, but there appear to be conceptual problems with that.
[2007-07-06T23:08:25+00:00]	<twincest>	yes, i think that's basically impossible
[2007-07-06T23:08:34+00:00]	<twincest>	short of dumping the entire table every time
[2007-07-06T23:09:00+00:00]	<mashiah>	I am ok with dropping my db on s2, the only goal I need at the moment is for ruwiki
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[2007-07-06T23:09:10+00:00]	<twincest>	would be doable in mysql 5.1 with row-based replication...
[2007-07-06T23:09:17+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	twincest: i havn't quite understood what the problem is... that insert...select can't be replicated cleanly if not all dbs are replicated?
[2007-07-06T23:09:35+00:00]	<twincest>	Duesentrieb: right, mysql will literally replicate: INSERT INTO u_foo.bar SELECT * FROM enwiki_p.revision ...
[2007-07-06T23:09:49+00:00]	<twincest>	Duesentrieb: so if enwiki_p (or whatever) doesn't exist, you lose
[2007-07-06T23:09:51+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	twincest: can we just let that fail, and write the user an email?
[2007-07-06T23:10:04+00:00]	<twincest>	in theory, but that's still really lame
[2007-07-06T23:10:09+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	perhaps using the "other" replication thingy?
[2007-07-06T23:10:12+00:00]	<twincest>	you have to guess if your table is in sync or not :)
[2007-07-06T23:10:31+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	well, that's why i said... send a mail.
[2007-07-06T23:10:57+00:00]	*** Duesentrieb looks... and finds a few hundert unread mails from cron in the toolbox folder
[2007-07-06T23:11:34+00:00]	<dungodung>	!replag s3
[2007-07-06T23:11:34+00:00]	<replagbot>	s3: 1d 10h 21m 55s (123715s) [-4117s in 2881s]
[2007-07-06T23:11:44+00:00]	<dungodung>	:)
[2007-07-06T23:11:46+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	twincest: well... how about "at your own risk" replication for "some" databases, on specific request?
[2007-07-06T23:12:39+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	or write a small script that makes it really easy for users to copy the data over. but then, people might not think of how much data they *are* moving.
[2007-07-06T23:13:00+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	!replag s1
[2007-07-06T23:13:00+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 1s [-1s in 2967s]
[2007-07-06T23:13:12+00:00]	<mashiah>	so, whan can I do to proceed?
[2007-07-06T23:13:17+00:00]	<timichal>	oh noes
[2007-07-06T23:13:36+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	mashiah: wait, or rewrite
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[2007-07-06T23:14:12+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	mashiah: several of my scripts arn't working because i need a copy of commons on both servers. i'll just wait for it to show up. simmilar issue.
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[2007-07-06T23:15:33+00:00]	<mashiah>	ok, I am ok with a pause, and maybe there are some expectations on how long to wait for? when to try again?
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[2007-07-06T23:16:17+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	mashiah: well, as twincest just said, there's no reliable way to automaticallyreplicate user dbs. so, someone has to come up with a smart solution....
[2007-07-06T23:17:15+00:00]	<mashiah>	I think I know the reason replag decreases with such a dramatic (again) speed...
[2007-07-06T23:18:49+00:00]	<timichal>	pixies?
[2007-07-06T23:20:10+00:00]	<mashiah>	no, the database has restricted abilities to support all the scripts
[2007-07-06T23:20:21+00:00]	<mashiah>	running
[2007-07-06T23:21:16+00:00]	<twincest>	yes, the fact we just added another database server which is twice as fast has nothing to do with it
[2007-07-06T23:21:53+00:00]	<mashiah>	this definitely works too
[2007-07-06T23:24:17+00:00]	<timichal>	:D
[2007-07-06T23:25:01+00:00]	<mashiah>	glad =)
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[2007-07-07T00:27:36+00:00]	<vishwin>	!replag
[2007-07-07T00:27:36+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 0s [-1s in 4476s]; s2: 3s [+1s in 7443s]; s3: 1d 8h 41m 43s (117703s) [-6012s in 4562s]
[2007-07-07T00:37:33+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	twincest, you are a hero for getting all the databases up.
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[2007-07-07T00:46:27+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	!replag
[2007-07-07T00:46:27+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 1s [0]; s2: 2s [-1s in 1131s]; s3: 1d 8h 2m 42s (115362s) [-2341s in 1131s]
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[2007-07-07T01:39:49+00:00]	<TheLetterE-Away>	I'm pretty sure I was told that we can use @ts.wikimedia.org for email, is that correct?
[2007-07-07T01:41:40+00:00]	<TheLetterE-Away>	Instead of @hemlock.ts.wikimedia.org..
[2007-07-07T01:43:20+00:00]	<twincest>	yes
[2007-07-07T01:43:27+00:00]	<twincest>	or @tools.wikimedia.de
[2007-07-07T01:43:44+00:00]	<TheLetterE-Away>	OK, thanks for clearing that up ;)
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[2007-07-07T01:55:13+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Is there a quick php script that someone can refer me to, I want to find out what databases are on each cluster
[2007-07-07T01:55:20+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Just a list
[2007-07-07T01:58:04+00:00]	<twincest>	select dbname, server from toolserver.wiki;
[2007-07-07T02:05:13+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	OK
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[2007-07-07T02:29:35+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	Where do we keep the table of which wikis are on which database?
[2007-07-07T02:29:43+00:00]	<twincest>	< twincest> select dbname, server from toolserver.wiki;
[2007-07-07T02:29:54+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	Thanks.
[2007-07-07T02:30:09+00:00]	<twincest>	i think we need a faq
[2007-07-07T02:30:10+00:00]	<twincest>	:P
[2007-07-07T02:30:31+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	Well, I'm just unusually stupid about that because I mostly deal with only the few largest.
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[2007-07-07T02:34:12+00:00]	<twincest>	new command: "sql"
[2007-07-07T02:34:19+00:00]	<twincest>	$ sql enwiki_p
[2007-07-07T02:34:25+00:00]	<twincest>	river@sql-s1:enwiki_p>
[2007-07-07T02:48:04+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Getting error "Permission denied (publickey)." when trying to connect to phpmyadmin
[2007-07-07T02:51:33+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Is there anything else I need to tell bash other than the first command stated at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Toolserver/For_users/Database#SSH-Tunnels
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[2007-07-07T03:12:39+00:00]	<twincest>	how do you normally connect to hemlock?
[2007-07-07T03:18:38+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	putty
[2007-07-07T03:18:54+00:00]	<twincest>	then you should configure the forwarding in putty instead of using openssh
[2007-07-07T03:19:08+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	ok then
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[2007-07-07T03:20:39+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Tick 'Local ports accept connections from other hosts'?
[2007-07-07T03:21:24+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Tick 'Remote ports do the same (SSH-2 only)'?
[2007-07-07T03:22:42+00:00]	<twincest>	i don't know how to do it in putty, sorry
[2007-07-07T03:23:16+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Alright then, and it has two boxes, Source port and destination.. what do I put in those?
[2007-07-07T03:24:37+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	And then 3 radio options, "Local, Remote or Dynamic"
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[2007-07-07T03:39:52+00:00]	<Connel>	Local. Enter the local port number, and the destination (e.g. localhost:80)
[2007-07-07T03:40:25+00:00]	<Connel>	that means a local connection to your own box on 'port' will be SSH-magic forwarded to hemlock's port 80
[2007-07-07T03:40:34+00:00]	<Connel>	(probably a bad example)
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[2007-07-07T03:56:29+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Nice, I'm in it now, thanks for your help Connel
[2007-07-07T04:01:46+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	twincest: How can you get into yarrow db through... is there an extra port forward?
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[2007-07-07T04:09:55+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Never mind
[2007-07-07T04:11:43+00:00]	<Kalan>	!replag
[2007-07-07T04:11:43+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 1s [0s in 12316s]; s2: 7s [+5s in 12316s]; s3: 23h 13m 14s (83594s) [-31768s in 12316s]
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[2007-07-07T05:04:46+00:00]	<TheLetterE-Away>	Hello Tangotango :)
[2007-07-07T05:04:55+00:00]	<Tangotango>	Hey TheLetterE-Away :D
[2007-07-07T05:07:27+00:00]	<TheLetterE-Away>	How are you?
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[2007-07-07T05:10:31+00:00]	<Tangotango>	Fine, thanks :)
[2007-07-07T05:10:36+00:00]	<Tangotango>	How about you, TheLetterE?
[2007-07-07T05:11:19+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Yeah, great thanks
[2007-07-07T05:11:46+00:00]	<Tangotango>	:)
[2007-07-07T05:11:50+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	!replag
[2007-07-07T05:11:50+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 1s [0s in 3607s]; s2: 19s [+12s in 3607s]; s3: 21h 16m 55s (76615s) [-6979s in 3607s]
[2007-07-07T05:12:03+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Go s3, make it to zero and join your friends :P
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[2007-07-07T05:57:42+00:00]	<eagle-101>	!replag
[2007-07-07T05:57:42+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 0s [-1s in 2752s]; s2: 1s [-18s in 2752s]; s3: 20h 28m 55s (73735s) [-2880s in 2752s]
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[2007-07-07T06:51:43+00:00]	<Agony|>	Can somebody give me a hint how to fetch last replication date from [s?]?
[2007-07-07T06:52:09+00:00]	<Agony|>	And i do not mean replagbot, I mean some sort of DB query :)
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[2007-07-07T07:17:49+00:00]	<HardDisk_WP>	agony|, try to see if stv made his replagbot source public...afair it uses a sql query. iteriots cgi-bin directory also contains his replag meter which should work with sql too
[2007-07-07T07:19:42+00:00]	<TheLetterE-Away>	A query? Perhaps this: mysql_fetch_array( mysql_query( "SELECT TIMESTAMPDIFF(SECOND, rc_timestamp, NOW()) AS replag FROM recentchanges ORDER BY rc_timestamp DESC LIMIT 1" ) );
[2007-07-07T07:20:19+00:00]	<TheLetterE-Away>	That puts it in seconds
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[2007-07-07T07:22:12+00:00]	<dungodung>	!replag
[2007-07-07T07:22:13+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 1s [0]; s2: 24s [+23s in 5070s]; s3: 18h 47m 30s (67650s) [-6085s in 5070s]
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[2007-07-07T08:07:00+00:00]	<Martinp23>	!replag
[2007-07-07T08:07:01+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 0s [-1s in 2688s]; s2: 4s [-20s in 2688s]; s3: 17h 34m 6s (63246s) [-4404s in 2688s]
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[2007-07-07T09:05:27+00:00]	<fmauNeko>	plop
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[2007-07-07T09:06:12+00:00]	<TheLetterE-Away>	!replag
[2007-07-07T09:06:13+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 3s [0]; s2: 0s [-4s in 3552s]; s3: 16h 9m 56s (58196s) [-5050s in 3552s]
[2007-07-07T09:07:41+00:00]	<Filnik>	Hello
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[2007-07-07T09:55:11+00:00]	<dungodung>	!replag
[2007-07-07T09:55:11+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 0s [-3s in 2939s]; s2: 2s [0]; s3: 15h 24m 8s (55448s) [-2748s in 2939s]
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[2007-07-07T10:52:44+00:00]	<RobertTs>	!replag
[2007-07-07T10:52:45+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 0s [0]; s2: 0s [-2s in 3453s]; s3: 14h 7m 19s (50839s) [-4609s in 3453s]
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[2007-07-07T10:59:48+00:00]	<para>	Duesentrieb_: is it possible to add the Commons categorytree to other tools on the toolserver, similar to what your deprecated page has?
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[2007-07-07T12:26:11+00:00]	<dungodung>	!replag
[2007-07-07T12:26:11+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 0s [0]; s2: 0s [0]; s3: 7h 45m 57s (27957s) [-22882s in 5607s]
[2007-07-07T12:26:16+00:00]	<dungodung>	wow
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[2007-07-07T12:38:38+00:00]	<Misza13>	interiot's edit counter used to have a distribution of edits per hour of day
[2007-07-07T12:38:41+00:00]	<Misza13>	anyone remember why that was removed?
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[2007-07-07T12:47:25+00:00]	<Misza13>	and why isn't the archive table indexed by namespace? >:(
[2007-07-07T12:49:29+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	Misza13: because revision also don't have namespace
[2007-07-07T12:50:13+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	Use JOIN
[2007-07-07T12:50:29+00:00]	<Misza13>	VasilievVV: revision doesn't have namespace column at all
[2007-07-07T12:50:36+00:00]	<Misza13>	archive does
[2007-07-07T12:50:38+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	archive also
[2007-07-07T12:50:49+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	Oops.. It has
[2007-07-07T12:50:56+00:00]	<Misza13>	now grouping edits by namespace is a blitz
[2007-07-07T12:51:05+00:00]	<Misza13>	deleted edits, takes forever
[2007-07-07T12:51:21+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	You are writing editcounter?
[2007-07-07T12:51:54+00:00]	<Misza13>	I already have
[2007-07-07T12:52:01+00:00]	<Misza13>	I'd just like to add more features
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[2007-07-07T12:54:46+00:00]	<dungodung>	hmm, replagbot works even in private. that's much more reasonable :)
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[2007-07-07T13:59:36+00:00]	<RobertTs>	!replag
[2007-07-07T13:59:37+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 0s [0]; s2: 8s [+7s in 2540s]; s3: 5h 59m 27s (21567s) [-3860s in 2540s]
[2007-07-07T13:59:46+00:00]	<RobertTs>	nice
[2007-07-07T14:15:20+00:00]	<RobertTs>	!replag
[2007-07-07T14:15:20+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 0s [0]; s2: 5s [-3s in 944s]; s3: 5h 35m 2s (20102s) [-1465s in 944s]
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[2007-07-07T15:13:15+00:00]	<Connel>	!replag
[2007-07-07T15:13:16+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 0s [0]; s2: 0s [-5s in 3475s]; s3: 3h 49m 46s (13786s) [-6316s in 3475s]
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[2007-07-07T15:42:11+00:00]	<Luxo>	!replag s3
[2007-07-07T15:42:11+00:00]	<replagbot>	s3: 2h 48m 15s (10095s) [-3691s in 1736s]
[2007-07-07T15:42:51+00:00]	<Luxo>	~1h and s3 is up to date :)
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[2007-07-07T16:15:24+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 0s [0]; s2: 2s [0]; s3: 2h 29m 33s (8973s) [-1122s in 1992s]
[2007-07-07T16:18:57+00:00]	<valhallasw>	argh
[2007-07-07T16:19:01+00:00]	<valhallasw>	stupid windows security
[2007-07-07T16:19:21+00:00]	<valhallasw>	'you are not allowed to delete (..)' .. what do you mean, I am administrator. LET ME DELETE >_<
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[2007-07-07T16:25:58+00:00]	<valhallasw>	twincest: anything after the key in authorized_keys is a comment, right?
[2007-07-07T16:26:02+00:00]	<twincest>	yes
[2007-07-07T16:26:11+00:00]	<valhallasw>	good
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[2007-07-07T16:26:58+00:00]	<valhallasw>	there are three dozen people who have cvs access to pywikipediabot
[2007-07-07T16:27:12+00:00]	<Tangotango>	twincest, I've noticed that scripts on Hemlock seem to be unable to access Zedler for very brief moments of time several times today, is that a known issue?
[2007-07-07T16:27:16+00:00]	<valhallasw>	but I have got only 6 ssh keys from the ones who want svn >_<
[2007-07-07T16:28:28+00:00]	<twincest>	Tangotango: could you be more specific
[2007-07-07T16:29:38+00:00]	<Tangotango>	twincest: Well, it's happened with one my own tools and with the toolserver bugzilla, both errors about being unable to access zedler.ts-local. I'm afraid they both don't show specific error messages.
[2007-07-07T16:30:04+00:00]	<twincest>	Tangotango: was there a number after the error?
[2007-07-07T16:30:51+00:00]	<Tangotango>	twincest: I'm not sure about bugzilla (I refreshed and it got lost), and my tool doesn't get the error code
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[2007-07-07T16:31:58+00:00]	<twincest>	someone complained about "interrupted system call" error connecting to mysql, but i don't see what could cause that
[2007-07-07T16:32:12+00:00]	<Tangotango>	hmm :/
[2007-07-07T16:32:41+00:00]	<Tangotango>	it happens very infrequently, and I can't reproduce it... :/
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[2007-07-07T16:34:49+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	hello all
[2007-07-07T16:35:12+00:00]	<twincest>	Tangotango: does it happen on yarrow?
[2007-07-07T16:36:32+00:00]	<Tangotango>	twincest: I'm not actually sure whether the error that happened with my tool happened with Zedler or Yarrow (it uses both)... bugzilla is on Zedler, right?
[2007-07-07T16:36:38+00:00]	<twincest>	yes
[2007-07-07T16:37:06+00:00]	<Tangotango>	Hmm... I'm sorry I don't have anything more specific... I'll let you know if it happens again.
[2007-07-07T16:37:18+00:00]	<Tangotango>	Hey DaBPunkt :)
[2007-07-07T16:37:51+00:00]	<para>	Tangotango: I get the same error every few hours, sometimes more often. the number after the failed connection attempt is 4, wonder what it means?
[2007-07-07T16:38:07+00:00]	<twincest>	4 is Interrupted system call
[2007-07-07T16:38:16+00:00]	<para>	ah
[2007-07-07T16:38:42+00:00]	<twincest>	it makes no sense that mysql would return that error, but it may be a symptom of something else
[2007-07-07T16:38:47+00:00]	<twincest>	(like connection timeout)
[2007-07-07T16:39:03+00:00]	<twincest>	does the error appear immediately or after some delay?
[2007-07-07T16:39:29+00:00]	<Tangotango>	IIRC, it appears after a delay
[2007-07-07T16:41:30+00:00]	<para>	I have a cronjob running every minute, with an exit('foo') if a lockfile exists. It's at the beginning of the script before anything else is done. But most of the mysql error mails come at the exact same time as the foo mail, which doesn't really make sense...
[2007-07-07T16:42:57+00:00]	<para>	almost seems as if the cronjob was run twice
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[2007-07-07T16:46:47+00:00]	<twincest>	para: Tangotango: what mysql client?
[2007-07-07T16:46:54+00:00]	<para>	php
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[2007-07-07T16:48:15+00:00]	<twincest>	para: can i see the script?
[2007-07-07T16:48:33+00:00]	<para>	~para/geocommons/geocommons-update.php
[2007-07-07T16:49:03+00:00]	<Tangotango>	php, and bugzilla (perl?)
[2007-07-07T16:49:35+00:00]	<twincest>	para: can you change it so you check for an error after mysql_connect
[2007-07-07T16:49:41+00:00]	<twincest>	para: rather than waiting for mysql_select_db
[2007-07-07T16:49:51+00:00]	<twincest>	might produce a more useful error
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[2007-07-07T17:00:41+00:00]	<para>	I'll let you know in the next few hours if the error is different :)
[2007-07-07T17:01:40+00:00]	<twincest>	ok
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[2007-07-07T17:08:32+00:00]	<Adambro>	I presume there is a list of what is on s2 and what is on s3, could someone direct me to it?
[2007-07-07T17:08:44+00:00]	<twincest>	Adambro: do you have a toolserver account?
[2007-07-07T17:08:49+00:00]	<Adambro>	nope
[2007-07-07T17:08:59+00:00]	<twincest>	then here: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/30277
[2007-07-07T17:09:20+00:00]	<Adambro>	okay, thanks
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[2007-07-07T17:10:24+00:00]	<Adambro>	!replag
[2007-07-07T17:10:24+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 0s [0]; s2: 0s [-2s in 3301s]; s3: 1h 39m 21s (5961s) [-3012s in 3301s]
[2007-07-07T17:11:09+00:00]	<Adambro>	Thanks twincest
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[2007-07-07T17:26:31+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	!replag s3
[2007-07-07T17:26:31+00:00]	<replagbot>	s3: 1h 27m 56s (5276s) [-685s in 967s]
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[2007-07-07T17:52:25+00:00]	<Cbrown1023_sleep>	http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Toolserver/New_accounts#en:User:Autocracy --> ouch
[2007-07-07T17:52:31+00:00]	<Cbrown1023_sleep>	not a very nice tone... :-/
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[2007-07-07T17:52:43+00:00]	*** Cbrown1023 feels sorry DaB has to deal with people like that :-P
[2007-07-07T17:52:57+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	but /me AGFs
[2007-07-07T17:53:38+00:00]	<twincest>	i think he means 'immediately' as in 'no wait', rather than 'do it right now' :)
[2007-07-07T17:53:54+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	yeah :)
[2007-07-07T17:54:18+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	but it can be interpreted negatively
[2007-07-07T17:55:10+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	twincest: it's alright if I comment on or question the people at Toolserver/New accounts, right?
[2007-07-07T17:55:21+00:00]	<twincest>	i guess
[2007-07-07T17:55:34+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	I don't want DaB to think I'm stealing his job or anything
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[2007-07-07T18:25:17+00:00]	<twincest>	!replag
[2007-07-07T18:25:17+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 0s [0]; s2: 3s [0]; s3: 1s [-5275s in 3526s]
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[2007-07-07T18:26:12+00:00]	<twincest>	rejoice, and be merry!
[2007-07-07T18:26:42+00:00]	<twincest>	the devil's replag has been banished from the realm forever
[2007-07-07T18:27:33+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	lol
[2007-07-07T18:27:50+00:00]	*** Cbrown1023 huggles twincest and bows to his power over evil
[2007-07-07T18:30:30+00:00]	<twincest>	PID USERNAME SIZE RSS STATE PRI NICE TIME CPU PROCESS/NLWP
[2007-07-07T18:30:30+00:00]	<twincest>	513 mysql 16G 15G sleep 44 5 31:00:14 2.6% mysqld/23
[2007-07-07T18:30:37+00:00]	<twincest>	2.6% - good thing we got all that cpu power
[2007-07-07T18:31:11+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	lol
[2007-07-07T18:38:19+00:00]	<para>	twincest: got the same error
[2007-07-07T18:38:25+00:00]	<twincest>	hm
[2007-07-07T18:39:17+00:00]	<para>	does cron send stdout and stderr separately? maybe that's why I always get two messages
[2007-07-07T18:39:25+00:00]	<twincest>	shouldn't
[2007-07-07T18:40:13+00:00]	<twincest>	para: could you paste the exact error again?
[2007-07-07T18:40:28+00:00]	<para>	Can't connect to MySQL server on 'sql' (4)
[2007-07-07T18:41:51+00:00]	<para>	gotta go now, I'll read the irc log if you think of something to try
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[2007-07-07T18:42:34+00:00]	<twincest>	packet state(in): kept 3015875 lost 40
[2007-07-07T18:42:34+00:00]	<twincest>	packet state(out): kept 18658 lost 4414
[2007-07-07T18:42:36+00:00]	<twincest>	hmm
[2007-07-07T18:46:03+00:00]	<NotADog>	hmm, I'm not sure, but I think the namespace name field in toolserver.namespaces doesn't use a uniform encoding :/
[2007-07-07T18:46:17+00:00]	<NotADog>	I can't pick one that would work for all projects
[2007-07-07T18:46:35+00:00]	<NotADog>	for some .decode('utf-8') works
[2007-07-07T18:46:43+00:00]	<NotADog>	for some, it's iso-8859-2
[2007-07-07T18:46:56+00:00]	<NotADog>	in one case, iso-8859-1 worked
[2007-07-07T18:47:11+00:00]	<valhallasw>	the php files don't all have the same encoding? O_o
[2007-07-07T18:48:00+00:00]	<NotADog>	hmm, it's not a matter of php files, I think
[2007-07-07T18:48:10+00:00]	<NotADog>	I'm reading directly from the table
[2007-07-07T18:48:41+00:00]	<NotADog>	I don't really know *how* the table is created
[2007-07-07T18:50:04+00:00]	<NotADog>	twincest: who maintains the namespaces table?
[2007-07-07T18:50:09+00:00]	<twincest>	daniel
[2007-07-07T18:51:43+00:00]	<valhallasw>	yes NotADog but the table is created from the php files
[2007-07-07T18:51:53+00:00]	<NotADog>	:/
[2007-07-07T18:52:00+00:00]	<valhallasw>	?
[2007-07-07T18:52:16+00:00]	*** NotADog will probably end up creating and maintaning his own table...
[2007-07-07T19:03:08+00:00]	<twincest>	oops, forgot to backup the raid checking script on zedler
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[2007-07-07T19:04:17+00:00]	<mashiah>	!replag
[2007-07-07T19:04:17+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 0s [0]; s2: 1s [-2s in 2340s]; s3: 3s [+2s in 2340s]
[2007-07-07T19:04:29+00:00]	<mashiah>	wow!
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[2007-07-07T19:40:01+00:00]	<twincest>	hm, now yarrow is 76%
[2007-07-07T19:40:06+00:00]	<twincest>	that's +2% in 2 days :)
[2007-07-07T19:40:47+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	and I've been beating on it with painful queries every once in a while too.
[2007-07-07T19:41:00+00:00]	<twincest>	i don't think select uses much disk space
[2007-07-07T19:41:17+00:00]	<valhallasw>	well
[2007-07-07T19:41:25+00:00]	<valhallasw>	it will be full in another 24 days then? ;)
[2007-07-07T19:42:18+00:00]	<mashiah>	as it was predicted yesterday
[2007-07-07T19:42:34+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	ohoh I thought you were talking about the replication rate, .. pardon my blondness, I'm multitasking. ;)
[2007-07-07T19:43:07+00:00]	<twincest>	gmaxwell: the context is that two days ago i said 'yarrow's disk is 74% full' :)
[2007-07-07T19:43:41+00:00]	<mashiah>	rate will decrese after 100% load will be reached
[2007-07-07T19:43:56+00:00]	<twincest>	mashiah: i'm talking about disk space, not replication rate
[2007-07-07T19:44:39+00:00]	<mashiah>	sorry, I've mistaken, thinked about the CPU load. stupid, sorry again
[2007-07-07T19:45:56+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	heh, will someone now step in .. confused, and thinking we're talking about memory usage?
[2007-07-07T19:52:48+00:00]	<mashiah>	interesting situation: if I want to 'select into' from de, nl or pl, I can, and when I need from ru I can not. As well as users are located on s2 where some of databases are also located. maybe it is easier to resolve my problem if my db will be located with different set of languages, on s3 because I use only ru? Or it is necessary to wait until the problem with user-db's replication will be solved in general?
[2007-07-07T19:53:06+00:00]	<twincest>	mashiah: i will create separate user databases on the s3 server
[2007-07-07T19:53:25+00:00]	<mashiah>	hurrah!
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[2007-07-07T20:08:50+00:00]	<twincest>	hmm, looking at the price of the array i hope it doesn't run out soon :)
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[2007-07-07T20:13:03+00:00]	<mashiah>	twincest: sorry I've bothered you probably, let me just know when I may try again with my task on s3?
[2007-07-07T20:13:11+00:00]	<twincest>	ok
[2007-07-07T20:27:56+00:00]	<valhallasw>	interesting how only 6 users react when you *ask* three dozen to react
[2007-07-07T20:29:22+00:00]	<Luxo>	hm on 'sql' are also the s2-projects?
[2007-07-07T20:33:52+00:00]	<twincest>	yes, but don't rely on that
[2007-07-07T20:35:20+00:00]	<Luxo>	ok thx
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[2007-07-07T20:45:14+00:00]	<para>	twincest: wm-dumps doesn't seem to be user writable anymore
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[2007-07-07T20:47:28+00:00]	<twincest>	wasnt mounted, should work now
[2007-07-07T20:47:56+00:00]	<para>	ok, thanks
[2007-07-07T21:16:32+00:00]	<twincest>	http://www.knams.wikimedia.org/ganglia/graph.php?g=cpu_report&z=medium&c=Kennisnet%20misc&h=yarrow.ts.wikimedia.org&m=&r=hour < ok, that's more like it
[2007-07-07T21:22:25+00:00]	<Luxo>	o_o
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[2007-07-07T21:38:57+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	re
[2007-07-07T21:39:08+00:00]	<twincest>	hey
[2007-07-07T21:39:42+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	Cbrown1023: No problem for me if you like to comment
[2007-07-07T21:40:09+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	thanks :)
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[2007-07-07T22:06:18+00:00]	<twincest>	Duesentrieb: you run long queries on yarrow, is the automatic killing not working there?
[2007-07-07T22:07:13+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	twincest: huh, pretty likely. i'll look into it in an hour or so. feel free to likk any queries by daniel_www that have been run for a couple of minutes. or any queries by that user, in fact.
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[2007-07-07T22:30:17+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	twincest: should be fixed now.
[2007-07-07T22:31:56+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	twincest: Do you (or any other root here of corse ;)) see a problem to install eruby as asked in Bug 148? There is a debain-package AFAIS
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[2007-07-07T22:35:40+00:00]	<twincest>	DaBPunkt: need to check which user it runs as
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[2007-07-07T23:22:02+00:00]	<Luxo>	n8
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[2007-07-07T23:22:14+00:00]	<ST47>	good night!
[2007-07-07T23:22:18+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	we're too late!
[2007-07-07T23:22:20+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	:(
[2007-07-07T23:22:40+00:00]	*** ST47 is the fail.
[2007-07-07T23:23:12+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	:(
[2007-07-07T23:23:14+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	:'(
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[2007-07-07T23:24:08+00:00]	*** ST47 waves back
[2007-07-07T23:24:12+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	:P
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[2007-07-08T01:32:53+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	!replag
[2007-07-08T01:32:53+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 1s [0s in 11671s]; s2: 7s [+6s in 11671s]; s3: 21s [+1s in 11671s]
[2007-07-08T01:33:06+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Noicee... All under 1min
[2007-07-08T01:33:56+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	!replag s3
[2007-07-08T01:33:56+00:00]	<replagbot>	s3: 6s [-15s in 63s]
[2007-07-08T01:36:13+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	gn8
[2007-07-08T01:37:47+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Night DaB
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[2007-07-08T02:00:46+00:00]	<[zelzany]>	!replag
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[2007-07-08T02:50:05+00:00]	<TheLetterE-Busy>	!replag
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[2007-07-08T03:10:10+00:00]	<twincest>	omg the replag is going up!!
[2007-07-08T03:10:22+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	lol
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[2007-07-08T04:34:35+00:00]	<Connel>	Sry, but I'm still too delighted to see this...
[2007-07-08T04:34:37+00:00]	<Connel>	!replag
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[2007-07-08T05:11:53+00:00]	<twincest>	hmm, i should exclude u_daniel_cache from the backup :)
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[2007-07-08T06:26:14+00:00]	<TheLetterE-Busy>	!replag
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[2007-07-08T08:33:37+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	How to set up command which executes every time I enter to server by SSH?
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[2007-07-08T08:37:43+00:00]	<siebrand>	VasilievVV: http://pangea.stanford.edu/computerinfo/unix/programming/shell/
[2007-07-08T08:42:39+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	Another question: how to disable cron notifications by email?
[2007-07-08T08:46:10+00:00]	<Tangotango>	VasilievVV: > /dev/null
[2007-07-08T08:46:32+00:00]	<Tangotango>	VasilievVV: http://www.linuxhelp.net/guides/cron/
[2007-07-08T08:47:21+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	And what does 2>&1 means?
[2007-07-08T08:48:45+00:00]	<Tangotango>	redirect stderr to stdout, I think
[2007-07-08T08:49:41+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	OK
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[2007-07-08T09:15:29+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	!куздфп
[2007-07-08T09:15:32+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	!replag
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[2007-07-08T09:17:05+00:00]	<Tangotango>	whoa :D
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[2007-07-08T09:41:45+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	When Interiot will fix his tool?\
[2007-07-08T09:47:10+00:00]	<valhallasw>	when he has time?
[2007-07-08T09:50:54+00:00]	<RobertTs>	Ask on his talk page if it really that important to you.
[2007-07-08T09:51:37+00:00]	<Luxo>	countitis! ;)
[2007-07-08T09:52:19+00:00]	<RobertTs>	!replag
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[2007-07-08T09:52:33+00:00]	<RobertTs>	replagcountitis
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[2007-07-08T10:18:19+00:00]	<TheFearow>	Project list is down
[2007-07-08T10:19:37+00:00]	<Luxo>	yes.
[2007-07-08T10:21:12+00:00]	<TheFearow>	Anyone know the URL to six degrees?
[2007-07-08T10:26:39+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	http://tools.wikimedia.de/sixdeg/
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[2007-07-08T12:44:04+00:00]	<RobertTs>	!replag
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[2007-07-08T13:29:51+00:00]	<twincest>	user databases now exist on both servers
[2007-07-08T13:29:55+00:00]	<twincest>	(not replicated)
[2007-07-08T13:30:17+00:00]	<twincest>	mashiah: your stuff should work now
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[2007-07-08T14:22:08+00:00]	<NotADog>	!replag
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[2007-07-08T14:34:12+00:00]	<NotADog>	how is the replag calculated - is it possible that some tables lag more than the others?
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[2007-07-08T14:46:17+00:00]	<symode09>	hey twincest! Just one question...
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[2007-07-08T14:50:40+00:00]	<symode09>	I came up with the idea to put together a php survey system where, groups suck as the CPG can write a survey. The survey would be emailed to me and I would add it. I will have a prototype up and working soon but, I was wandering if it would be ok to put it on the toolserver?
[2007-07-08T14:50:51+00:00]	*** symode09 is almost done uploading the prototype
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[2007-07-08T14:55:15+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	Hello all
[2007-07-08T14:55:17+00:00]	*** symode09 asks anyone
[2007-07-08T14:55:17+00:00]	<valhallasw>	lo
[2007-07-08T14:55:20+00:00]	<symode09>	hello!
[2007-07-08T14:55:36+00:00]	<valhallasw>	symode09: I don't understand your plan
[2007-07-08T14:56:07+00:00]	<symode09>	essentially, I have a php where I can create surveys. would it be accepted onto the toolserv
[2007-07-08T14:56:16+00:00]	<valhallasw>	surveys? of what?
[2007-07-08T14:56:50+00:00]	<symode09>	ie. instead of http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_brand_survey
[2007-07-08T14:57:14+00:00]	<symode09>	it collates all info and is a lot clearer :p
[2007-07-08T14:58:34+00:00]	<RobertTs>	NotADog: It depends on when the wiki was last edited (since it uses the recent changes table) - s1 will always be up to date as Wikipedia gets over 1 edit a second, the others on the other hand get less edits so may appear to be lagging slightly more than they actually are. There is no solution to the problem as MediaWiki does not have a daemon.
[2007-07-08T14:58:45+00:00]	<RobertTs>	!replag
[2007-07-08T14:58:45+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 0s [-1s in 2197s]; s2: 5s [0]; s3: 6s [+4s in 2197s]
[2007-07-08T14:59:00+00:00]	<Cbrown1023_sleep>	sysmode09: you might wish to repeat the beginning part of your question now that DaBPunkt signed on :)
[2007-07-08T14:59:01+00:00]	*** RobertTs doesn't think we need the diff counters anymore.
[2007-07-08T14:59:19+00:00]	<symode09>	Cbrown, kk
[2007-07-08T14:59:31+00:00]	<symode09>	I came up with the idea to put together a php survey system where, groups suck as the CPG can write a survey. The survey would be emailed to me and I would add it. I will have a prototype up and working soon but, I was wandering if it would be ok to put it on the toolserver?
[2007-07-08T14:59:51+00:00]	<Cbrown1023_sleep>	such*
[2007-07-08T15:00:49+00:00]	<RobertTs>	:P
[2007-07-08T15:00:51+00:00]	<symode09>	xD yes
[2007-07-08T15:01:07+00:00]	<Cbrown1023_sleep>	sorry, it annoyed me the first time and I didn't say anything :-P
[2007-07-08T15:01:24+00:00]	<symode09>	xD
[2007-07-08T15:02:12+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	Sorry, I do not understand you. Please repeat it with other words
[2007-07-08T15:02:55+00:00]	<symode09>	:0 kk
[2007-07-08T15:03:31+00:00]	<valhallasw>	symode09: most of us are not native english speakers, nor do all of us have detailed technical knowledge
[2007-07-08T15:03:51+00:00]	<valhallasw>	and what is CPG? :P
[2007-07-08T15:03:55+00:00]	<symode09>	ok :) sorry (stupid ignorant me)
[2007-07-08T15:04:15+00:00]	<valhallasw>	np
[2007-07-08T15:05:04+00:00]	<symode09>	the cpg is the group who manage public relations, the media, have press releases and are "ambassators" to the foundation (that is only one of its jobs)
[2007-07-08T15:05:16+00:00]	<valhallasw>	ah
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[2007-07-08T15:09:17+00:00]	<symode09>	so, would it be allowed to be added to the toolserv?
[2007-07-08T15:09:31+00:00]	<Cbrown1023_sleep>	no
[2007-07-08T15:09:35+00:00]	<Cbrown1023_sleep>	he lies
[2007-07-08T15:09:41+00:00]	<valhallasw>	???
[2007-07-08T15:09:52+00:00]	<symode09>	he lies :s
[2007-07-08T15:09:52+00:00]	<Cbrown1023_sleep>	you have to watch him
[2007-07-08T15:09:55+00:00]	<Cbrown1023_sleep>	CPG is a subgroup of those people
[2007-07-08T15:10:11+00:00]	<symode09>	??? :s
[2007-07-08T15:10:19+00:00]	<valhallasw>	Cbrown1023_sleep: please go back to sleep
[2007-07-08T15:10:26+00:00]	<symode09>	xD
[2007-07-08T15:10:27+00:00]	<Cbrown1023_sleep>	CPG = Communications Projects Group
[2007-07-08T15:10:33+00:00]	*** symode09 is confused
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[2007-07-08T15:11:00+00:00]	<Cbrown1023_sleep>	we come up with prjects, an (or work with people who have projects) and iscuss how to go about these and get them more pubicty
[2007-07-08T15:11:02+00:00]	<valhallasw>	symode09: so it would be like a site with a questionnaire?
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[2007-07-08T15:11:18+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	sysmode-0: read the [[m:Communications Project Group|page]]
[2007-07-08T15:11:25+00:00]	<symode09>	I have
[2007-07-08T15:11:42+00:00]	<symode09>	valhallasw: pretty much, yes one that can be changed for different uses
[2007-07-08T15:14:04+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	DaB: sysmode09 wants to know if he would be allowed to host surveys on the toolserver
[2007-07-08T15:14:15+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	like the recent one on Meta about wikimedia Branding
[2007-07-08T15:15:32+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	The problem is, that "survey" has many meanings in germany. Is "poll" or "vote" meant here?
[2007-07-08T15:16:02+00:00]	<RobertTs>	no
[2007-07-08T15:16:06+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	not really
[2007-07-08T15:16:08+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	h/o
[2007-07-08T15:16:10+00:00]	*** Cbrown1023 gets a link
[2007-07-08T15:16:10+00:00]	<symode09>	:s
[2007-07-08T15:17:09+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	someone else might be able to get one faster
[2007-07-08T15:17:12+00:00]	*** Cbrown1023 has a slow computer right now
[2007-07-08T15:18:28+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	DabPUnkt: like this http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_brand_survey
[2007-07-08T15:18:37+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	*read*
[2007-07-08T15:18:39+00:00]	<RobertTs>	
[2007-07-08T15:18:41+00:00]	<RobertTs>	oops
[2007-07-08T15:18:43+00:00]	<RobertTs>	sorry
[2007-07-08T15:18:51+00:00]	<RobertTs>	^V instead of right click
[2007-07-08T15:18:55+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	but symode09 that is more.... hmm... not pre-defined answers
[2007-07-08T15:19:15+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	how would your script help in situations like that?
[2007-07-08T15:19:26+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	your script seems something along the lines of what DaB thought, more of a vote
[2007-07-08T15:22:38+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	If I understand the page right, that is a poll (poll like in "public-opinion poll").
[2007-07-08T15:23:45+00:00]	<symode09>	...
[2007-07-08T15:25:27+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	yes
[2007-07-08T15:25:29+00:00]	<symode09>	yes except, it will collaborate important information - from the age and amount of time spent on wikimedia by a user to, what they think of branding
[2007-07-08T15:25:38+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	pretty much correct, that is what sysmode09 is talking about
[2007-07-08T15:26:01+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	and theoretically, these surveys would be a *very* good thing
[2007-07-08T15:26:17+00:00]	*** Cbrown1023 could definitely use it with a project he is currently working on for CPG as well
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[2007-07-08T15:27:04+00:00]	*** symode09 wants to make sure it is working perfectly before he considers moving anything to the toolserv but, that should not be long
[2007-07-08T15:27:47+00:00]	<symode09>	because, you look at the page about wikimedia's branding and, there is no speceific answer
[2007-07-08T15:28:04+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	symode09: I see no problem to host a tool which make "surveys" more easly or make the "surveys" complete. But think that you are not allowed to asked user for his passwords
[2007-07-08T15:28:36+00:00]	<symode09>	I know - users will simply go there and do the survey
[2007-07-08T15:29:13+00:00]	<symode09>	the most personal information asked will be age and country - i wouldn't allow anything more specific
[2007-07-08T15:30:49+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	See no problem with that (of corse the surveys has to be about wm-topics)
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[2007-07-08T15:31:23+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	symode09: DaB was reffering the username's and password for their Wiki account
[2007-07-08T15:31:41+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	DaBPunkt: is he allowed to collect their Username, just for informational purposes?
[2007-07-08T15:31:43+00:00]	<symode09>	that would never be asked
[2007-07-08T15:32:05+00:00]	<valhallasw>	whats the use of asking for a username you can't check
[2007-07-08T15:32:11+00:00]	<symode09>	all information suck as the users age etc. would be optionial
[2007-07-08T15:32:32+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	what's the use of asking a real name if you can/t chec? :)
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[2007-07-08T15:32:56+00:00]	<RobertTs>	Cbrown1023, symode09: *such :DD
[2007-07-08T15:33:02+00:00]	<RobertTs>	lol
[2007-07-08T15:33:23+00:00]	<symode09>	:p
[2007-07-08T15:33:24+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	lol
[2007-07-08T15:33:25+00:00]	<symode09>	xD
[2007-07-08T15:34:00+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	symode09: who will have access to this information, where is it stored? will finished survey's be taken off?
[2007-07-08T15:34:32+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	I daresay the board is not really interested in Re-Branding at this moment in time, so would that one still be up even today if you had been doing this?
[2007-07-08T15:35:26+00:00]	<symode09>	I will have access to the surveys however, I will release final data (ie. the average age of participants is 23.4 years old)
[2007-07-08T15:35:28+00:00]	*** Cbrown1023 is asking a lot of questions, not just about the allocation of an account but curiousity and the relation to CPG
[2007-07-08T15:35:50+00:00]	<symode09>	Surveys can be put together in 5 minutes
[2007-07-08T15:37:19+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	.....
[2007-07-08T15:37:44+00:00]	<symode09>	I am putting a test together now
[2007-07-08T15:40:09+00:00]	*** symode09 has an example for you!
[2007-07-08T15:40:11+00:00]	<symode09>	:D
[2007-07-08T15:40:30+00:00]	<symode09>	http://untu.ms/wikimedia/index.php?sid=1
[2007-07-08T15:41:10+00:00]	<valhallasw>	I have to enter my mail :|
[2007-07-08T15:41:23+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	is the asking for a email-adresss realy needed?
[2007-07-08T15:41:58+00:00]	<symode09>	it is *NOT* stored - it is to prevent spamming
[2007-07-08T15:42:01+00:00]	<valhallasw>	and don't send mails from scary From:fatalis@gator187.hostgator.com mail addresses :p
[2007-07-08T15:42:23+00:00]	<symode09>	xD
[2007-07-08T15:42:28+00:00]	<RobertTs>	valhallasw: I guess once it is on the toolserver he won't have to - but on hostgator that is the address they give you.
[2007-07-08T15:42:44+00:00]	<RobertTs>	symode09: captcha?
[2007-07-08T15:42:58+00:00]	<NotADog>	!replag
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[2007-07-08T15:43:05+00:00]	<RobertTs>	symode09: I would be reluctant to participate if I had to fill in all them details.
[2007-07-08T15:43:10+00:00]	<symode09>	nope - it is a prewritten program and, we have edited it a bit... I am not very skilled in that area
[2007-07-08T15:43:15+00:00]	<valhallasw>	symode09: and it's reasonable to expect only one response per IP
[2007-07-08T15:43:21+00:00]	<valhallasw>	although
[2007-07-08T15:43:24+00:00]	<RobertTs>	valhallasw: No it isn't.
[2007-07-08T15:43:26+00:00]	<valhallasw>	maybe not in all countries
[2007-07-08T15:43:40+00:00]	<symode09>	I know.... I am not that skilled though - I do know have that expertise!
[2007-07-08T15:43:49+00:00]	<symode09>	I am happy for anyone here to help though :p
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[2007-07-08T15:45:24+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	not*\
[2007-07-08T15:45:30+00:00]	*** symode09 did not create that :)
[2007-07-08T15:45:46+00:00]	<symode09>	oops, wrong place xD
[2007-07-08T15:46:19+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	symode09: approve my request :-P
[2007-07-08T15:46:30+00:00]	<symode09>	request tooo :s
[2007-07-08T15:46:55+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	Please answer in whole questions
[2007-07-08T15:47:01+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	>
[2007-07-08T15:47:04+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	?
[2007-07-08T15:47:25+00:00]	<ST47>	Jeopardy. You must answer in question form.
[2007-07-08T15:47:47+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	O_O
[2007-07-08T15:47:51+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	*What wikimedia project are you involved in?
[2007-07-08T15:47:52+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>
[2007-07-08T15:47:53+00:00]	<symode09>	xD
[2007-07-08T15:47:54+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>
[2007-07-08T15:47:54+00:00]	<symode09>	if the question doesn't make sence, it is because, it is only to show you what the survey is like (an example) - the quesitons don't make sencs
[2007-07-08T15:47:55+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>
[2007-07-08T15:47:57+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>
[2007-07-08T15:47:59+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>
[2007-07-08T15:48:00+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>
[2007-07-08T15:48:02+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>
[2007-07-08T15:48:03+00:00]	<ST47>	SPAM
[2007-07-08T15:48:03+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	HelpThis can be either wikipedia, meta, wikinews, wikiquote
[2007-07-08T15:48:04+00:00]	<symode09>	?
[2007-07-08T15:48:05+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	?
[2007-07-08T15:48:07+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	there's a lot more :)
[2007-07-08T15:48:22+00:00]	<symode09>	just write anything - it is only an example - i couldn't be bothered adding them all
[2007-07-08T15:48:24+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	*What country are you in?
[2007-07-08T15:48:30+00:00]	<symode09>	Australia
[2007-07-08T15:48:34+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	do you allow for differences?
[2007-07-08T15:48:38+00:00]	<ST47>	huh?
[2007-07-08T15:48:39+00:00]	<symode09>	yes
[2007-07-08T15:48:45+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	United States - United States of America - US - USA?
[2007-07-08T15:48:49+00:00]	<symode09>	but, remember, the odd dud soesn't matter
[2007-07-08T15:48:58+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	:-P
[2007-07-08T15:49:04+00:00]	<symode09>	when we sort that sort of thing, it takes like 5 mins
[2007-07-08T15:49:07+00:00]	<symode09>	but you see the potential of it though?
[2007-07-08T15:49:39+00:00]	*** Cbrown1023 has seen the potential of it since the beginning
[2007-07-08T15:49:53+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	otherwise, why would I tell everyone here that it is really good?
[2007-07-08T15:49:55+00:00]	<symode09>	:D
[2007-07-08T15:50:02+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	and just think, where would you be if I hadn't translated? :-P
[2007-07-08T15:50:12+00:00]	<symode09>	:p
[2007-07-08T15:50:20+00:00]	<symode09>	ty to everyone :D
[2007-07-08T15:51:43+00:00]	<symode09>	so, what needs to be done with the survey?
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[2007-07-08T15:53:23+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	symode09: do you have an toolserver-account?
[2007-07-08T15:53:32+00:00]	<symode09>	nope :'(
[2007-07-08T15:53:52+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	Add yourself at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Toolserver/New_accounts and wait untill Thurstday
[2007-07-08T15:53:55+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	DaBPunkt: he's on there
[2007-07-08T15:54:02+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	we wanted to make sure it was okay though :)
[2007-07-08T15:54:18+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	oh, I see
[2007-07-08T15:54:18+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	she?*
[2007-07-08T15:54:50+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	Cbrown1023> she?* <--- ??
[2007-07-08T15:55:14+00:00]	*** Atluxity is now know as atluxity
[2007-07-08T15:55:40+00:00]	*** Cbrown1023 was wondering if sysmode09 was a she
[2007-07-08T15:55:46+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	b/c I put "he's on there"
[2007-07-08T15:55:52+00:00]	<ST47>	~replag
[2007-07-08T15:55:54+00:00]	<ST47>	!replag
[2007-07-08T15:55:54+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 0s [0]; s2: 1s [-2s in 776s]; s3: 1s [0s in 776s]
[2007-07-08T15:56:09+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	nice @replag :)
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[2007-07-08T15:59:40+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	heh
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[2007-07-08T16:03:18+00:00]	<symode09>	Cbrown1023:yes i am a dude
[2007-07-08T16:03:44+00:00]	<ST47>	!replag
[2007-07-08T16:03:45+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 1s [0]; s2: 5s [+4s in 470s]; s3: 3s [+2s in 470s]
[2007-07-08T16:03:51+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	symode09: /me sees
[2007-07-08T16:04:16+00:00]	*** symode09 can take that two ways, I'll take it the clean way ;)
[2007-07-08T16:04:36+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	lol
[2007-07-08T16:07:15+00:00]	<symode09>	Cbrown1023: Good news coming up in 3 minutes - don't go away :D
[2007-07-08T16:09:12+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	hehe
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[2007-07-08T16:17:25+00:00]	<ST47>	it's been 10 mintes,
[2007-07-08T16:19:59+00:00]	<symode09>	ok, here
[2007-07-08T16:20:01+00:00]	<symode09>	http://untu.ms/wikimedia/index.php?sid=4
[2007-07-08T16:20:14+00:00]	<symode09>	ST47 + Cbrown1023
[2007-07-08T16:20:19+00:00]	<symode09>	srry about the wait
[2007-07-08T16:20:37+00:00]	<symode09>	I was held up
[2007-07-08T16:20:49+00:00]	<symode09>	ST47 + Cbrown1023 - wait!
[2007-07-08T16:20:53+00:00]	<symode09>	there is something wrong - I made a bad setting!
[2007-07-08T16:20:58+00:00]	<symode09>	xD
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[2007-07-08T16:21:25+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	O_O
[2007-07-08T16:21:33+00:00]	*** Cbrown1023 already sent something out
[2007-07-08T16:21:50+00:00]	<symode09>	it doesn't matter :p just ignore it
[2007-07-08T16:22:02+00:00]	<symode09>	giv eme five - i am rushing
[2007-07-08T16:22:23+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	k
[2007-07-08T16:28:45+00:00]	<symode09>	ST47 + Cbrown1023 - here! :D
[2007-07-08T16:28:47+00:00]	<symode09>	http://untu.ms/wikimedia/index.php?sid=5
[2007-07-08T16:29:45+00:00]	*** Phil_asleep is now know as NotACat
[2007-07-08T16:32:06+00:00]	<symode09>	there is no longer an email section :D
[2007-07-08T16:32:53+00:00]	*** Luxo is now know as Luxo|away
[2007-07-08T16:33:56+00:00]	*** ST47 lols at bearocrat
[2007-07-08T16:34:44+00:00]	*** symode09 can't spell it :'(
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[2007-07-08T16:35:00+00:00]	<symode09>	not even word, firefox or google can help :'(
[2007-07-08T16:38:03+00:00]	*** symode09 wanders who wrote supreme lord. xD
[2007-07-08T16:38:42+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	wonders*
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[2007-07-08T16:43:03+00:00]	*** symode09 has stats
[2007-07-08T16:43:05+00:00]	<symode09>	http://members.iinet.net.au/~symode09/stats.png
[2007-07-08T16:45:21+00:00]	*** symode09 wanders if he will be given access to the toolserv
[2007-07-08T16:46:23+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	probably
[2007-07-08T16:46:33+00:00]	*** RobertTs doesn't think you should publish users ip addresses.
[2007-07-08T16:46:41+00:00]	*** symode09 will remove them
[2007-07-08T16:47:42+00:00]	*** symode09 has removed the ip address
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[2007-07-08T17:31:26+00:00]	<symode09>	Cbrown1023: I have already had 19 responces: How long should i leave the survey for?
[2007-07-08T17:31:48+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	why are we leaving it again? to test it?
[2007-07-08T17:32:37+00:00]	<symode09>	partly and (for me) to overturn the riles - these responces are well, poisonous!
[2007-07-08T17:34:06+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	:)
[2007-07-08T17:34:15+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	you can leave it up for as long as you want
[2007-07-08T17:34:40+00:00]	*** symode09 will leave it for 24 hours :)
[2007-07-08T17:35:05+00:00]	<symode09>	BREAKING NRES: Comcast users' private details released onto internet by accident
[2007-07-08T17:35:13+00:00]	<symode09>	oops, wrong channel :s
[2007-07-08T17:35:23+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	hehe
[2007-07-08T17:35:25+00:00]	*** symode09 is joking
[2007-07-08T17:41:39+00:00]	<mashiah>	twincest: 10x a lot
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[2007-07-08T18:03:35+00:00]	<para>	!replag
[2007-07-08T18:03:35+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 1h 1m 46s (3706s) [+3705s in 7191s]; s2: 1h 7m 34s (4054s) [+4049s in 7191s]; s3: 1h 20m 19s (4819s) [+4816s in 7191s]
[2007-07-08T18:03:47+00:00]	<para>	hey what happened to our perfect replag?
[2007-07-08T18:04:19+00:00]	<anaconda>	db masters changed
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[2007-07-08T18:35:09+00:00]	<Filnik>	Hello
[2007-07-08T18:46:38+00:00]	<symode09>	hey Filnik!!
[2007-07-08T18:47:02+00:00]	<Filnik>	Hi symode09, are you someone that i am supposed to know? :D
[2007-07-08T18:47:17+00:00]	<symode09>	nope xD
[2007-07-08T18:47:26+00:00]	<Filnik>	symode09: ahn! XD
[2007-07-08T18:47:34+00:00]	<siebrand>	Duesentrieb: daniel, any ETA on fixing CommonSense for the new toolserver config?
[2007-07-08T18:47:37+00:00]	<symode09>	I have found out your personal information and have reported you to the herpes alert website :p
[2007-07-08T18:47:39+00:00]	<Filnik>	symode09: you seems so happy to see me :D
[2007-07-08T18:47:47+00:00]	<symode09>	:) yes
[2007-07-08T18:48:21+00:00]	<Filnik>	symode09: herpes alert what? I'm sick?
[2007-07-08T18:48:29+00:00]	<Filnik>	XD
[2007-07-08T18:48:31+00:00]	<symode09>	yes!
[2007-07-08T18:48:38+00:00]	<symode09>	you have herpes of the elbow
[2007-07-08T18:48:40+00:00]	<Filnik>	lol
[2007-07-08T18:48:46+00:00]	<Filnik>	symode09: rotfl
[2007-07-08T18:48:54+00:00]	<symode09>	xD
[2007-07-08T18:49:02+00:00]	<symode09>	are you ever on #wikipedia ?
[2007-07-08T18:49:33+00:00]	<Filnik>	symode09: if you want i can connect, there are too many people there and i don't know why i should connect there :)
[2007-07-08T18:49:41+00:00]	<symode09>	:p
[2007-07-08T18:49:44+00:00]	<Filnik>	but if you want, I'm available :P
[2007-07-08T18:49:51+00:00]	<symode09>	have you heard of the new rules there?
[2007-07-08T18:50:07+00:00]	<Filnik>	symode09: nope, something interessant/important?
[2007-07-08T18:50:25+00:00]	<vishwin>	!replag
[2007-07-08T18:50:25+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 1h 48m 36s (6516s) [+2810s in 2810s]; s2: 1h 54m 24s (6864s) [+2810s in 2810s]; s3: 2h 7m 9s (7629s) [+2810s in 2810s]
[2007-07-08T18:50:38+00:00]	<symode09>	nope, we have a survey to fill out for all those who have an opinion of it
[2007-07-08T18:51:30+00:00]	<mashiah>	no replication anymore
[2007-07-08T18:51:35+00:00]	<Filnik>	symode09: well, i haven't read the rules, so i can be useless in a survey, aren't I? :D
[2007-07-08T18:51:52+00:00]	<symode09>	yep :p
[2007-07-08T18:52:07+00:00]	<Filnik>	eheh :)
[2007-07-08T18:52:32+00:00]	<Filnik>	symode09: if you need help with bots i can answer to every surveys that you want :P
[2007-07-08T18:52:34+00:00]	<Filnik>	eheh :D
[2007-07-08T18:52:57+00:00]	<symode09>	hahahaha!
[2007-07-08T18:53:03+00:00]	<symode09>	I can track IP addresses
[2007-07-08T18:53:23+00:00]	<Filnik>	symode09: so you can find where I leave? :D
[2007-07-08T18:53:38+00:00]	<symode09>	http://members.iinet.net.au/~symode09/stats.png
[2007-07-08T18:54:28+00:00]	<anaconda>	How old are you currently? 16.247854138 ...
[2007-07-08T18:54:47+00:00]	<symode09>	xD
[2007-07-08T18:55:10+00:00]	<mashiah>	sure, I'm filled the form in and I'm absent there
[2007-07-08T18:55:44+00:00]	<Filnik>	anaconda: and the position? Supreme Lord... i think he could be Jimbo..
[2007-07-08T18:55:46+00:00]	<Filnik>	:D
[2007-07-08T18:55:48+00:00]	<symode09>	na, that is an old stat
[2007-07-08T18:55:51+00:00]	<symode09>	xD
[2007-07-08T18:55:57+00:00]	<symode09>	there have been 19 responces
[2007-07-08T18:55:57+00:00]	<Filnik>	lol
[2007-07-08T18:56:03+00:00]	*** Connel wants stats on elbowsex
[2007-07-08T18:56:12+00:00]	<symode09>	O_O
[2007-07-08T18:56:18+00:00]	<symode09>	I'm a minor!
[2007-07-08T18:56:23+00:00]	<Filnik>	lol
[2007-07-08T18:56:34+00:00]	*** symode09 drinks baleys (it is 3am after all)
[2007-07-08T18:56:36+00:00]	<Filnik>	symode09: in which project are you active? wikipedia.en?
[2007-07-08T18:56:49+00:00]	<symode09>	wikipedia, meta, commons and wikinews
[2007-07-08T18:56:56+00:00]	<Connel>	!time
[2007-07-08T18:56:57+00:00]	<mashiah>	wikipedia
[2007-07-08T18:57:02+00:00]	<symode09>	i am not releasing them all the stats - the latest ones are killers
[2007-07-08T18:57:25+00:00]	*** symode09 will release one
[2007-07-08T18:57:37+00:00]	<symode09>	do you want one?
[2007-07-08T18:57:57+00:00]	<Filnik>	symode09: < i am not releasing them all the stats - the latest ones are killers> <-- what? :D
[2007-07-08T18:58:05+00:00]	<Filnik>	releasing what? :)
[2007-07-08T18:58:10+00:00]	<Filnik>	the stats?
[2007-07-08T18:58:20+00:00]	<symode09>	from the survey - some people sead some real bad stuff...
[2007-07-08T18:58:32+00:00]	<symode09>	"Several long time users have quit. The rules against off-topic discussions have go against the grain of the channel, and are generally not enforced unless Sean Whitton is actually in the room. The unilateral removal of all sysop permsissions and then refusal to restore them unless people pledge to upload the new rules amounts to a coup."
[2007-07-08T18:59:31+00:00]	<symode09>	:0
[2007-07-08T19:00:02+00:00]	<Filnik>	symode09: ahn, well
[2007-07-08T19:00:09+00:00]	<Filnik>	symode09: i've read something about it
[2007-07-08T19:00:19+00:00]	*** symode09 has worse :0
[2007-07-08T19:00:25+00:00]	<symode09>	NO MORE!
[2007-07-08T19:00:57+00:00]	<Filnik>	symode09: so, i'm against the ban of off-topics discussions (are so nice :P ) but the removal of all the access can be useful to see who really needs the status ;)
[2007-07-08T19:01:40+00:00]	*** dungodung|away is now know as dungodung
[2007-07-08T19:02:32+00:00]	<symode09>	;) I think off topic discussion is important but, sometimes goes too far - here we are talking off topic (in relation to the toolserv) but, we are not being booted - at 3pm Australian Westerstandars time, the ops on then are total jerks who will silence you for talking like this
[2007-07-08T19:02:47+00:00]	*** symode09 waves at dungodung
[2007-07-08T19:03:24+00:00]	*** Dodek (i=dodek@wikipedia/Dodek) has quit ()Client Quit
[2007-07-08T19:03:48+00:00]	*** dungodung waves back at symode09
[2007-07-08T19:04:07+00:00]	*** symode09 goes to make some noodles
[2007-07-08T19:04:28+00:00]	<Filnik>	symode09: yes, it's obvious that if the situation is too bad, off-topics can be a problem, but in case like this (like now) there aren't bad :)
[2007-07-08T19:06:35+00:00]	<symode09>	exactly but what i found odd is that at around this time a few days a go they were discussing thrush + its treatment but, if you discussed it 12 hours earlier you would be booted - there are no standards - only rules
[2007-07-08T19:08:36+00:00]	<Filnik>	symode09: well, yes, you need the good sense and nothing else... rules are only some writed pieces of paper to read and base on that :D
[2007-07-08T19:09:55+00:00]	<HardDisk_WP>	"Several long time users have quit. The rules against off-topic discussions have go against the grain of the channel, and are generally not enforced unless Sean Whitton is actually in the room. The unilateral removal of all sysop permsissions and then refusal to restore them unless people pledge to upload the new rules amounts to a coup."
[2007-07-08T19:10:01+00:00]	<HardDisk_WP>	symode09, from where do you have that?
[2007-07-08T19:10:12+00:00]	<symode09>	a survey i have begun
[2007-07-08T19:10:24+00:00]	<symode09>	http://untu.ms/wikimedia/index.php?sid=5
[2007-07-08T19:11:16+00:00]	<HardDisk_WP>	what IRC rules??
[2007-07-08T19:12:07+00:00]	<symode09>	they have introduced on #wikipedia new rules banning *all* off topic converstion
[2007-07-08T19:12:34+00:00]	<symode09>	some times you will be silenced if you talk at all (like this) off topic while at other tiles (like now) you can get away with it
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[2007-07-08T19:46:16+00:00]	<RobertTs>	!replag
[2007-07-08T19:46:16+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 2h 44m 27s (9867s) [+3351s in 3351s]; s2: 2h 50m 15s (10215s) [+3351s in 3351s]; s3: 3h 3m 0s (10980s) [+3351s in 3351s]
[2007-07-08T19:49:01+00:00]	<RobertTs>	twincest: PING
[2007-07-08T19:49:55+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	*restart replication*
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[2007-07-08T19:50:11+00:00]	<ST47>	!replag
[2007-07-08T19:50:12+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 2h 48m 22s (10102s) [+235s in 235s]; s2: 2h 54m 10s (10450s) [+235s in 235s]; s3: 3h 6m 55s (11215s) [+235s in 235s]
[2007-07-08T19:50:29+00:00]	<RobertTs>	DaBPunkt: I don't think that is the problem - I believe the masters changed so twincest needs to change a configuration setting.
[2007-07-08T19:50:34+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	An new index is build at the moment AFAIS
[2007-07-08T19:51:23+00:00]	<RobertTs>	I see "schema changes in 23333+, indexing changes in r23016+"
[2007-07-08T19:52:46+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	at the moment, there are still data to replag. We can switch the master only if there aren't new data on the old master any more
[2007-07-08T19:52:51+00:00]	<valhallasw>	ST47: then.. what is on topic? :P
[2007-07-08T19:55:22+00:00]	<ST47>	huh?
[2007-07-08T19:58:07+00:00]	<RobertTs>	ST47: I think he meant symode09
[2007-07-08T19:59:06+00:00]	<ST47>	:)
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[2007-07-08T20:00:38+00:00]	<twincest>	hmm
[2007-07-08T20:00:50+00:00]	<twincest>	the schema changes touched commonswiki, but there is no commonswiki on our s3
[2007-07-08T20:00:57+00:00]	<twincest>	let me get a coffee and i'll fix it
[2007-07-08T20:09:08+00:00]	*** Luxo (n=Luxo@wikipedia/Luxo) has quit ()""g n8 @ all!""
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[2007-07-08T20:11:18+00:00]	<symode09>	heya!
[2007-07-08T20:11:23+00:00]	*** symode09 is in da house
[2007-07-08T20:11:37+00:00]	<symode09>	omg, I have finished the video - http://youtube.com/watch?v=-1W21qHo0pc :D
[2007-07-08T20:16:10+00:00]	<ST47>	>.>
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[2007-07-08T20:19:17+00:00]	<twincest>	resumed replication on the old master
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[2007-07-08T20:22:05+00:00]	<valhallasw>	ST47: omg what's that
[2007-07-08T20:24:37+00:00]	*** symode09 is off to bed
[2007-07-08T20:24:39+00:00]	<symode09>	cya
[2007-07-08T20:24:41+00:00]	<symode09>	xxx
[2007-07-08T20:29:59+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	twincest: the replication on zedler is finish now. Time to switch
[2007-07-08T20:30:04+00:00]	<twincest>	ok
[2007-07-08T20:31:11+00:00]	*** Revvar (n=Revvar@wikipedia/Revvar) has quit ()"Bye!"
[2007-07-08T20:32:20+00:00]	<twincest>	brion didn't tell the new master binlog position
[2007-07-08T20:33:21+00:00]	<twincest>	070708 16:58:49 Slave I/O thread: connected to master 'repl@lomaria:3306', replication started in log 'lomaria-bin.017' at position 20532
[2007-07-08T20:33:25+00:00]	<twincest>	guess that's it
[2007-07-08T20:33:39+00:00]	<valhallasw>	:)
[2007-07-08T20:36:06+00:00]	<twincest>	restarted replicated for s2
[2007-07-08T20:36:33+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	runs
[2007-07-08T20:36:47+00:00]	*** valhallasw aims
[2007-07-08T20:36:49+00:00]	*** valhallasw shoots
[2007-07-08T20:36:51+00:00]	<valhallasw>	>:)
[2007-07-08T20:37:01+00:00]	<valhallasw>	you can run, but you can't hide >:)
[2007-07-08T20:38:04+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	rm -rf /home/valhallasw - You can shoot, but I can delete ;)
[2007-07-08T20:38:13+00:00]	<valhallasw>	:(
[2007-07-08T20:40:32+00:00]	<ST47>	!replag
[2007-07-08T20:40:33+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 3h 38m 43s (13123s) [+3021s in 3021s]; s2: 3h 35m 9s (12909s) [+2459s in 3021s]; s3: 3h 57m 16s (14236s) [+3021s in 3021s]
[2007-07-08T20:40:55+00:00]	<twincest>	i need to train other wmf admins, how to change the master on the toolserver :)
[2007-07-08T20:41:10+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	*g*
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[2007-07-08T20:41:29+00:00]	<twincest>	looks like s3 is caught up
[2007-07-08T20:41:30+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	Enough information from the wmf-admins would be enough :)
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[2007-07-08T21:06:41+00:00]	<twincest>	hmm, enwiki.cu_changes is pretty big :)
[2007-07-08T21:07:00+00:00]	<valhallasw>	cu_changes?
[2007-07-08T21:07:12+00:00]	<timichal>	is that like enwiki.cabal?
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[2007-07-08T21:14:22+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	valhallasw: that's a table für the checkuseruser
[2007-07-08T21:14:31+00:00]	<valhallasw>	ah
[2007-07-08T21:19:00+00:00]	<twincest>	yeah, its like recentchanges++
[2007-07-08T21:19:38+00:00]	<valhallasw>	I don't like anything that has ++ appended to it :P
[2007-07-08T21:19:59+00:00]	<twincest>	jpython++.net
[2007-07-08T21:20:13+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	doppelplusgut ;)
[2007-07-08T21:20:30+00:00]	<valhallasw>	cpython ftw
[2007-07-08T21:21:54+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	twincest: Has your replication-tool a log or can it be watched at the console?
[2007-07-08T21:22:20+00:00]	<twincest>	atm it logs to the console because it's in testing.. i'll probably change it to use syslog today
[2007-07-08T21:22:24+00:00]	<twincest>	it doesn't log much though :)
[2007-07-08T21:23:16+00:00]	<twincest>	DaBPunkt: you can cd ~river/trainwreck; ./twctl status to see what its doing
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[2007-07-08T21:24:37+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	ok, thanks
[2007-07-08T21:25:20+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	!replag
[2007-07-08T21:25:21+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 4h 23m 31s (15811s) [+2688s in 2688s]; s2: 1h 58m 57s (7137s) [-5772s in 2688s]; s3: 4h 42m 4s (16924s) [+2688s in 2688s]
[2007-07-08T21:25:28+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	WHAT
[2007-07-08T21:25:35+00:00]	<twincest>	schema changes
[2007-07-08T21:25:43+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Alright
[2007-07-08T21:25:45+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	;\
[2007-07-08T21:25:58+00:00]	<ST47>	:P
[2007-07-08T21:26:15+00:00]	<ST47>	At least s2 is going down :)
[2007-07-08T21:26:26+00:00]	<twincest>	yeah, s2 is done
[2007-07-08T21:26:30+00:00]	<ST47>	:)
[2007-07-08T21:26:34+00:00]	<twincest>	just waiting for enwiki on yarrow so i change the tunnel
[2007-07-08T21:26:42+00:00]	*** TheLetterE waves to ST47
[2007-07-08T21:26:50+00:00]	<ST47>	enwiki is big.
[2007-07-08T21:26:53+00:00]	<ST47>	hi, E
[2007-07-08T21:27:11+00:00]	<twincest>	enwiki is ten million gigarams
[2007-07-08T21:27:37+00:00]	<ST47>	gigaram = page?
[2007-07-08T21:27:51+00:00]	<ST47>	:)
[2007-07-08T21:27:53+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Hehe
[2007-07-08T21:28:17+00:00]	<ST47>	(by the way, that's 10 petarams)
[2007-07-08T21:28:34+00:00]	<twincest>	http://i19.tinypic.com/4r7d2za.jpg
[2007-07-08T21:28:56+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	:(
[2007-07-08T21:29:00+00:00]	<ST47>	:)
[2007-07-08T21:29:40+00:00]	<ST47>	Why do the british have to screw everything up with their milliards.
[2007-07-08T21:31:35+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	The Millard is normal in europe AFAIK
[2007-07-08T21:31:38+00:00]	*** ST47 ntoes that enwikihas 9,474,170
[2007-07-08T21:31:40+00:00]	<ST47>	pages.
[2007-07-08T21:32:19+00:00]	<ST47>	is it?
[2007-07-08T21:32:24+00:00]	*** ST47 blames the french.
[2007-07-08T21:32:33+00:00]	<valhallasw>	tsh.
[2007-07-08T21:32:35+00:00]	<ST47>	it even sounds french.
[2007-07-08T21:32:37+00:00]	<valhallasw>	go away, yankee.
[2007-07-08T21:32:52+00:00]	<valhallasw>	:p
[2007-07-08T21:33:25+00:00]	<valhallasw>	but in most european languages, it's milliard or a derivative
[2007-07-08T21:33:47+00:00]	<valhallasw>	actually
[2007-07-08T21:33:59+00:00]	<valhallasw>	in about every language except american english
[2007-07-08T21:34:30+00:00]	<valhallasw>	and the worst is that
[2007-07-08T21:34:39+00:00]	<valhallasw>	'billion' is 10^9 in english
[2007-07-08T21:34:46+00:00]	<valhallasw>	and 10^12 in about-every-other-language
[2007-07-08T21:35:16+00:00]	<twincest>	in american english
[2007-07-08T21:35:22+00:00]	<valhallasw>	yes
[2007-07-08T21:37:42+00:00]	<twincest>	34422 system us enwiki 10358 Connec ALTER TABLE archive ADD INDEX usertext_timestamp ( ar_user_text , ar_timestamp )
[2007-07-08T21:37:45+00:00]	<twincest>	that's useful
[2007-07-08T21:38:08+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	for what?
[2007-07-08T21:38:17+00:00]	<twincest>	edit counters :)
[2007-07-08T21:38:24+00:00]	<valhallasw>	twincest: it's archive, not revision
[2007-07-08T21:38:27+00:00]	<twincest>	+ looking at users' deleted contributions
[2007-07-08T21:38:30+00:00]	<twincest>	valhallasw: yes, exactly
[2007-07-08T21:38:38+00:00]	<twincest>	valhallasw: so you can say how many deleted edits a user has
[2007-07-08T21:38:42+00:00]	<valhallasw>	ah right
[2007-07-08T21:39:16+00:00]	<valhallasw>	anyway, time for bed
[2007-07-08T21:39:17+00:00]	<valhallasw>	good night
[2007-07-08T21:39:20+00:00]	*** DaBPunkt doesn't get the point. For what I need the timestamp?
[2007-07-08T21:39:21+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	night
[2007-07-08T21:39:21+00:00]	<twincest>	nn
[2007-07-08T21:39:24+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	bye valhallasw
[2007-07-08T21:39:26+00:00]	<twincest>	DaBPunkt: sorting
[2007-07-08T21:39:42+00:00]	<twincest>	you can get all archived edits from a user, then sort by timestamp
[2007-07-08T21:41:16+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	If I plan to get the editcount of a past-date?
[2007-07-08T21:41:34+00:00]	<twincest>	no, more for something like: showing a list of a user's deleted edits
[2007-07-08T21:43:39+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	ah. I asked because you speak of "edit counters"
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[2007-07-08T21:53:55+00:00]	<twincest>	okay looks like enwiki's done
[2007-07-08T21:53:59+00:00]	<twincest>	gonna switch the tunnel over
[2007-07-08T21:55:00+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	!replag
[2007-07-08T21:55:01+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 4h 53m 11s (17591s) [+1780s in 1780s]; s2: 1h 0m 40s (3640s) [-3497s in 1780s]; s3: 5h 11m 44s (18704s) [+1780s in 1780s]
[2007-07-08T21:57:17+00:00]	<dungodung>	okay, someone complained on sr: wiki about the editcounter not working and I wrote 5kb of explanation (from the need of the TS to the latest server mess)
[2007-07-08T21:59:06+00:00]	<twincest>	s1 running
[2007-07-08T22:00:42+00:00]	<twincest>	s3 running
[2007-07-08T22:00:51+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	!replag
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[2007-07-08T22:01:03+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Its going down, all good twincest
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[2007-07-08T22:06:18+00:00]	<twincest>	time for more coffee
[2007-07-08T22:07:04+00:00]	<twincest>	oh. i already made one, forgot to drink it
[2007-07-08T22:07:30+00:00]	*** ST47 prints the coffe user's manual for river
[2007-07-08T22:07:37+00:00]	<ST47>	1) Make coffee
[2007-07-08T22:07:43+00:00]	<ST47>	2) drink coffee
[2007-07-08T22:07:53+00:00]	<ST47>	ehm...
[2007-07-08T22:07:58+00:00]	<ST47>	1.5) pour coffee
[2007-07-08T22:08:09+00:00]	<ST47>	1.75) Add milk and/or sugar
[2007-07-08T22:08:18+00:00]	<twincest>	eww milk and sugar in coffee
[2007-07-08T22:09:07+00:00]	<ST47>	1.75 version 2) undef
[2007-07-08T22:18:03+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	ST47: 1,5 is a GNU extension.
[2007-07-08T22:18:14+00:00]	<ST47>	what?
[2007-07-08T22:18:19+00:00]	<ST47>	so?
[2007-07-08T22:18:31+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	yea, posix forgot about that
[2007-07-08T22:18:34+00:00]	<ST47>	1.5 is also the number halfway between 1 and 2.
[2007-07-08T22:18:56+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	ST47: bah, never mind. joke didn't work.
[2007-07-08T22:19:02+00:00]	<ST47>	>.>
[2007-07-08T22:19:29+00:00]	<ST47>	this channel is so weird today.
[2007-07-08T22:19:35+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	ST47: you know, all those stuff in man pages about "xyz is a GNU extension"...
[2007-07-08T22:19:49+00:00]	<ST47>	nope :)
[2007-07-08T22:19:51+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	??
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[2007-07-08T22:33:48+00:00]	<mashiah>	!куздфп
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[2007-07-08T23:03:10+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	good night
[2007-07-08T23:03:14+00:00]	<twincest>	nn
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[2007-07-09T02:59:02+00:00]	<Betacommand>	Im having problems SSHing to the ts
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[2007-07-09T03:01:22+00:00]	<twincest>	Betacommand: better now?
[2007-07-09T03:01:30+00:00]	<Betacommand>	yeah thanks
[2007-07-09T03:01:34+00:00]	<TheLetterE-Busy>	Hehe
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[2007-07-09T04:16:06+00:00]	<TheFearow>	Cbrown1023: Why?
[2007-07-09T04:16:40+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	you're requesting an account, you might want to be here too
[2007-07-09T04:16:48+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	have you seen my reply to your post and my question?
[2007-07-09T04:16:50+00:00]	<TheFearow>	Ahh yes
[2007-07-09T04:16:51+00:00]	<TheFearow>	No
[2007-07-09T04:16:54+00:00]	<TheFearow>	I'm checking as we speak
[2007-07-09T04:17:33+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	the first reply is of interest to you
[2007-07-09T04:17:36+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	the second that of DaB
[2007-07-09T04:18:03+00:00]	<TheFearow>	Firstly, the bot is ironed out, and already running
[2007-07-09T04:19:00+00:00]	<TheFearow>	And secondly, I do test my tools elsewhere, I meant experiment as use and test
[2007-07-09T04:20:31+00:00]	<TheFearow>	Also, why is the RfA of relevance?
[2007-07-09T04:21:33+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	dunno, someone else suggested it
[2007-07-09T04:21:43+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	and you better clarify testing
[2007-07-09T04:21:45+00:00]	<TheFearow>	Ahh ok
[2007-07-09T04:21:53+00:00]	<TheFearow>	It closed unsuccessfully today anyway, mostly due to my edit count
[2007-07-09T04:21:57+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	DaB has speedily rejected users based on that before
[2007-07-09T04:22:32+00:00]	<TheFearow>	That they are not admins?
[2007-07-09T04:22:43+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	I was accepted
[2007-07-09T04:22:47+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	I'm no admin :P
[2007-07-09T04:23:37+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	DaB isn't here at the moment, he's asleep
[2007-07-09T04:25:05+00:00]	<TheFearow>	My requests been there for a while, so if he was going to speedy reject, he would have done so speedily :p
[2007-07-09T04:25:29+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	I, myself, waited 3 months for my request to be accepted
[2007-07-09T04:25:30+00:00]	<TheFearow>	And thelettere: Last time someone told me he was asleep, he logged on one minute later
[2007-07-09T04:25:32+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	no, not that they aren't admins
[2007-07-09T04:25:50+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	and TheFearow, who says he has looked at the page already?
[2007-07-09T04:26:12+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	TheFearow: He left around 12am UTC
[2007-07-09T04:26:37+00:00]	<TheFearow>	Cbrown1023: He has, ive talked to him a few days ago
[2007-07-09T04:26:42+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	He doesnt usually accept requests weekly, usually monthly
[2007-07-09T04:26:54+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	But when someone needs it urgently, he does
[2007-07-09T04:27:06+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	TheFearow, TheLetter#: I was referring to information brought up /in/ the RfA
[2007-07-09T04:27:15+00:00]	<TheFearow>	Ahh
[2007-07-09T04:27:30+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	and I was referring to him rejecting users who are requesting an account to "test" their bot
[2007-07-09T04:27:34+00:00]	<TheFearow>	Most of it is "lack of mainspace contributions" in mine :p
[2007-07-09T04:27:48+00:00]	<TheFearow>	Ahh, i've been testing it very thoroughly locally, and on my own dedicated
[2007-07-09T04:27:52+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	TheFearow: Here too
[2007-07-09T04:28:04+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	TheFearow: I have a toolserver account.
[2007-07-09T04:28:13+00:00]	<TheFearow>	I don't think article writing relates to toolserver, so it should affect it
[2007-07-09T04:28:18+00:00]	<TheFearow>	I mean shouldnt
[2007-07-09T04:28:41+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	I can run it if required, for trials
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[2007-07-09T04:31:04+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Until you get your account.
[2007-07-09T04:31:12+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	I have two bots running at the moment
[2007-07-09T04:31:16+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	on cronjob
[2007-07-09T04:31:25+00:00]	<TheFearow>	I have mine running
[2007-07-09T04:31:54+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	You just want a dedicated host right?
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[2007-07-09T04:32:16+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	So you're applying for a toolserver account?
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[2007-07-09T04:32:55+00:00]	<TheFearow>	No
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[2007-07-09T04:33:19+00:00]	<TheFearow>	I want it to run some PHP tools I am planning, as well as to run various wiki-bots I am developing/updating
[2007-07-09T04:33:44+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	on the toolserver?
[2007-07-09T04:34:36+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	OK, you'll just have to wait until the next accounts update or have a discussion with DaB for an early consideration..
[2007-07-09T04:34:55+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Maybe best to leave DaB a memo
[2007-07-09T04:35:15+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	TheLetterE: the next update is this Thursday
[2007-07-09T04:35:35+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Daniel-Bryant: I know, thats what I'm telling TheFearow
[2007-07-09T04:35:36+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Toolserver/New_accounts&diff=prev&oldid=623598 / http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DaB.&diff=prev&oldid=623599
[2007-07-09T04:35:46+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	:)
[2007-07-09T04:35:58+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	and what, this is so urgent that it cant wait until Thursday?
[2007-07-09T04:36:13+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	I don't know, but I think it can. Never mind
[2007-07-09T04:36:20+00:00]	<TheFearow>	Nothing
[2007-07-09T04:36:35+00:00]	<TheFearow>	Cbrown asked me some questions
[2007-07-09T04:36:39+00:00]	*** TheLetterE doesnt want to worry about it
[2007-07-09T04:36:43+00:00]	<TheFearow>	so I answered, i can easily wait
[2007-07-09T04:36:44+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	OK
[2007-07-09T04:36:58+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Thats fine, feel free to idle here :)
[2007-07-09T04:37:18+00:00]	<TheFearow>	:)
[2007-07-09T04:37:41+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	And I see you're getting an account too Daniel?
[2007-07-09T04:37:46+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	:)
[2007-07-09T04:38:00+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	Yeah
[2007-07-09T04:38:06+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	Chair of MedCom traditionally does
[2007-07-09T04:38:17+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	cos we're the backup host if MedComBot dies
[2007-07-09T04:38:31+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Thats good
[2007-07-09T04:38:33+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	if we lose that bot...well, we're fucked.
[2007-07-09T04:38:53+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	I know
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[2007-07-09T04:39:00+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	also going to use it for some Wikinews stuff
[2007-07-09T04:39:20+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Cbrown made a comment under your request, I can tell you that replication lag is a thing of the past.
[2007-07-09T04:39:25+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	trawl pages created seven days ago, look for certain conditions, textdump to be sorted
[2007-07-09T04:39:31+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	TheLetterE: yes, I know :)
[2007-07-09T04:39:40+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	!replag
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[2007-07-09T04:39:43+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	TheLetterE: we both know :-P
[2007-07-09T04:39:56+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Just thought I should clear it up :D
[2007-07-09T04:39:57+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	I had made the request when we were updating and installing
[2007-07-09T04:40:03+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	Daniel and I are buds anyway :-P
[2007-07-09T04:40:09+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Ah OK
[2007-07-09T04:40:10+00:00]	*** Daniel-Bryant waves at Cbrown1023
[2007-07-09T04:40:30+00:00]	*** TheLetterE wonders if Daniel is from Australia.
[2007-07-09T04:40:47+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Daniel&oldid=142626024
[2007-07-09T04:40:52+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	read for yourself
[2007-07-09T04:40:55+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Hehe, I am too :P
[2007-07-09T04:41:21+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Adelaide is far from me
[2007-07-09T04:41:23+00:00]	*** Cbrown1023 waves back
[2007-07-09T04:41:27+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Well, sortof
[2007-07-09T04:41:43+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	I'm from Brisbane
[2007-07-09T04:41:59+00:00]	<amidaniel>	Damn aussies :)
[2007-07-09T04:42:08+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	:P
[2007-07-09T04:42:28+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	amidaniel: I requested for VP the other day :D
[2007-07-09T04:42:50+00:00]	<amidaniel>	TheLetterE: Good luck :) The list is backlogged to all hell, and no one's really working on th project at all
[2007-07-09T04:43:14+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Aww :(
[2007-07-09T04:43:23+00:00]	*** amidaniel personally wishes people would just stop using the software and switch to [[m:WikiMonitor]], yet it hasn't caught on :(
[2007-07-09T04:43:40+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	amidaniel: I cleared the list out
[2007-07-09T04:43:42+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Is that better?
[2007-07-09T04:43:43+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	took me an hour
[2007-07-09T04:44:04+00:00]	<amidaniel>	Daniel-Bryant: Ohh .. thank you :D
[2007-07-09T04:44:12+00:00]	*** amidaniel gives Daniel-Bryant a big box of cookies :)
[2007-07-09T04:44:17+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	amazingly, I didn't reject that many people
[2007-07-09T04:44:21+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	normally my going rate is 50%
[2007-07-09T04:44:34+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	using automated tools to revert non-vandalism, blocks, etc.
[2007-07-09T04:44:45+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	not enough edits, only been active a month
[2007-07-09T04:44:48+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Need approval for WikiMonitor?
[2007-07-09T04:44:51+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	but it was really, really high
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[2007-07-09T04:45:05+00:00]	<amidaniel>	TheLetterE: Nope
[2007-07-09T04:45:05+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	TheLetterE: you're approved for Vp
[2007-07-09T04:45:16+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	as of +1min
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[2007-07-09T04:45:21+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Daniel-Bryant: Thanks :)
[2007-07-09T04:45:22+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	(ie. when I load up VP)
[2007-07-09T04:45:39+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Leave me a note on my talk page, I usually forget about that stuff :)
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[2007-07-09T04:45:43+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	ha ha
[2007-07-09T04:45:48+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	i was just about to ask you that :)
[2007-07-09T04:45:51+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	:P
[2007-07-09T04:46:04+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	I use AWB, but I forget about other programs
[2007-07-09T04:46:09+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	such as VP
[2007-07-09T04:46:16+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	But i'll use it a bit more
[2007-07-09T04:46:19+00:00]	<amidaniel>	Wow, I haven't use AWB in over a year, I think
[2007-07-09T04:46:19+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	:)
[2007-07-09T04:46:45+00:00]	*** TheLetterE goes to download https://amidaniel.com/pub/WikiMonitor/WIKIMON_upd007.zip
[2007-07-09T04:46:51+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	amidaniel: I can't get it to work on enwn since my name change
[2007-07-09T04:46:59+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	I got them to change my name in the approval list
[2007-07-09T04:47:06+00:00]	<amidaniel>	TheLetterE: You need to nab the 006 one too
[2007-07-09T04:47:07+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	but for some reason the "Start" (3) screen is blank
[2007-07-09T04:47:12+00:00]	<amidaniel>	I'll ever abetter install system eventually
[2007-07-09T04:47:14+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	amidaniel: OK
[2007-07-09T04:47:17+00:00]	<amidaniel>	Daniel-Bryant: AWB?
[2007-07-09T04:47:21+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	yeah
[2007-07-09T04:47:24+00:00]	<amidaniel>	Hmm
[2007-07-09T04:47:34+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	worked fine prior to it.
[2007-07-09T04:47:38+00:00]	<amidaniel>	Odd
[2007-07-09T04:47:39+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	(the name change)
[2007-07-09T04:47:47+00:00]	<amidaniel>	I presume you updated the access list et al.?
[2007-07-09T04:47:50+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	yeah
[2007-07-09T04:48:02+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	had to get someone to do it, but yes.
[2007-07-09T04:48:07+00:00]	<amidaniel>	Huh .. I dunno .. go scream at Bluemoose (if he's still around) I guess
[2007-07-09T04:48:17+00:00]	<amidaniel>	Daniel-Bryant: You're an admin on enwiki though, aren't you?
[2007-07-09T04:48:23+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	nope
[2007-07-09T04:48:33+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	accredited reporter, but not admin
[2007-07-09T04:48:41+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	i was told to apply, but haven't got around to it
[2007-07-09T04:48:59+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	I'm possibly going to be an admin soon
[2007-07-09T04:49:35+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	Daniel-Bryant: #awb
[2007-07-09T04:49:40+00:00]	<amidaniel>	Daniel-Bryant: Really?! I thought you were :)
[2007-07-09T04:49:55+00:00]	<amidaniel>	"acredited reporter" <-- is that what they call enwikinews admins?
[2007-07-09T04:49:58+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	nope
[2007-07-09T04:50:13+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	that's what they call people who get issued Wikinews press passes
[2007-07-09T04:50:20+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	yea
[2007-07-09T04:50:24+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	it's.... awkward
[2007-07-09T04:50:30+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	you're gonna have to look it up :)
[2007-07-09T04:50:30+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	indeed.
[2007-07-09T04:50:35+00:00]	<Daniel-Bryant>	brb in 10 mins.
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[2007-07-09T04:50:48+00:00]	<amidaniel>	"Wikinews press passes"?
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[2007-07-09T04:50:57+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	heh
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[2007-07-09T04:51:20+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	[[n:WN:AN]] or something
[2007-07-09T04:52:47+00:00]	<amidaniel>	Gahh .. wikinews has an arbcom too?
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[2007-07-09T07:51:04+00:00]	<Neko-at-Kinmu>	heh
[2007-07-09T07:51:15+00:00]	<Neko-at-Kinmu>	staff has only level 10 access? :P
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[2007-07-09T09:05:24+00:00]	<Filnik>	Hello
[2007-07-09T09:07:37+00:00]	<valhallasw>	morning
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[2007-07-09T09:25:25+00:00]	<Filnik>	Hi valhallasw :)
[2007-07-09T09:26:11+00:00]	<valhallasw>	:)
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[2007-07-09T11:23:12+00:00]	<TheLetterE>	night
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[2007-07-09T12:05:02+00:00]	<Adambro_>	!replag
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[2007-07-09T12:10:03+00:00]	<Adambro_>	ooh! wow!
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[2007-07-09T12:35:40+00:00]	<elian>	hiho
[2007-07-09T12:37:22+00:00]	<elian>	is interiot around here sometimes? under which nick?
[2007-07-09T12:38:54+00:00]	<dungodung>	he does come online sometimes, but I haven't seen him recently
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[2007-07-09T12:39:04+00:00]	<dungodung>	and he's usually just interiot
[2007-07-09T12:39:40+00:00]	<elian>	dungodung: thanks :-)
[2007-07-09T12:39:46+00:00]	<dungodung>	np
[2007-07-09T12:39:53+00:00]	<dungodung>	hey, elian, are you coming to taipei?
[2007-07-09T12:42:25+00:00]	<elian>	no
[2007-07-09T12:42:38+00:00]	<elian>	dungodung: you are going?
[2007-07-09T12:42:55+00:00]	<dungodung>	elian: yes :)
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[2007-07-09T14:01:04+00:00]	<bainer>	so, at pfctdayelise's suggestion, I'm putting together an app for Facebook which will let people put the Commons picture of the day on their profiles. would the scripts for this be an appropriate project to store on the toolserver?
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[2007-07-09T14:22:13+00:00]	<chuck>	yarrow?
[2007-07-09T14:28:03+00:00]	<RobertTs>	teh new sever
[2007-07-09T14:28:10+00:00]	<RobertTs>	!replag
[2007-07-09T14:28:10+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 1s [-1s in 8297s]; s2: 1s [0s in 8297s]; s3: 4s [0]
[2007-07-09T14:29:41+00:00]	<chuck>	cool
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[2007-07-09T14:49:44+00:00]	<hojjat>	All, I might be totally wrong, but I think I was able to get the sources of others' tools from http://tools.wikimedia.de/websvn/
[2007-07-09T14:50:03+00:00]	<hojjat>	At the moment, it doesn't list any files in people's folders
[2007-07-09T14:50:07+00:00]	<hojjat>	What's up?
[2007-07-09T14:51:12+00:00]	<hojjat>	All?
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[2007-07-09T14:51:45+00:00]	<anaconda>	http://tools.wikimedia.de/websvn/filedetails.php?repname=robchurch&path=%2Fconfig%2Fcache.sql&rev=0&sc=0
[2007-07-09T14:53:08+00:00]	<hojjat>	anaconda, thank you for the link, though I'm not sure it was to me
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[2007-07-09T15:32:32+00:00]	<chuck>	!replsg
[2007-07-09T15:32:35+00:00]	<chuck>	!replag
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[2007-07-09T15:35:02+00:00]	<ST47>	:D
[2007-07-09T15:35:39+00:00]	<chuck>	that's pretty damn good
[2007-07-09T15:48:32+00:00]	<twincest>	* Cbrown1023 pokes twincest
[2007-07-09T15:48:34+00:00]	<twincest>	hi?
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[2007-07-09T15:52:09+00:00]	<chuck>	lol
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[2007-07-09T15:58:19+00:00]	<RobertTs>	seanw: no
[2007-07-09T15:58:27+00:00]	<RobertTs>	seanw: it won't remove mysql_
[2007-07-09T15:58:37+00:00]	<seanw>	Groovy, thanks.
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[2007-07-09T16:03:02+00:00]	<twincest>	Cbrown1023: did you want something?
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[2007-07-09T16:08:58+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	hmm... I don't remember why I poked you before
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[2007-07-09T16:09:27+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	Hello all
[2007-07-09T16:09:35+00:00]	<twincest>	evening
[2007-07-09T16:09:51+00:00]	<Betacommand>	!replag
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[2007-07-09T16:10:32+00:00]	<valhallasw>	Cbrown1023: poking fetish?
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[2007-07-09T16:17:03+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	twincest: The textformat of our database is normal utf8, right?
[2007-07-09T16:17:11+00:00]	<twincest>	kinda
[2007-07-09T16:17:20+00:00]	<twincest>	the database fields are marked as Latin-1, but they contain UTF-8 data
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[2007-07-09T16:18:04+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	would it be a problem to change the marking to uft8?
[2007-07-09T16:18:39+00:00]	<twincest>	yes
[2007-07-09T16:18:48+00:00]	<twincest>	mysql can only represent the Unicode BMP
[2007-07-09T16:18:54+00:00]	<twincest>	other characters are destroyed
[2007-07-09T16:19:03+00:00]	*** symode09 wanders the origin of the username twinces and wanders if it is meant to be dirty
[2007-07-09T16:19:14+00:00]	<twincest>	symode09: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twincest
[2007-07-09T16:21:28+00:00]	*** symode09 was correcy
[2007-07-09T16:21:31+00:00]	<symode09>	**correct
[2007-07-09T16:25:10+00:00]	<twincest>	i didn't realise php4 was even installed
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[2007-07-09T16:31:26+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	twincest: See positiv: Then you will not miss it :)
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[2007-07-09T16:37:36+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	twincest: Any news about the user-database-sync between zedler and yarrow?
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[2007-07-09T16:41:43+00:00]	<hojjat>	Hey all.
[2007-07-09T16:42:01+00:00]	<hojjat>	Does any body know why interiot's codes are not available on the SVN any more?
[2007-07-09T16:42:29+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	Ask interiot
[2007-07-09T16:42:55+00:00]	<hojjat>	Where to find him?
[2007-07-09T16:43:25+00:00]	<hojjat>	(And to be more accurate, almost all of the account folders on the SVN are empty) (exception is rob church's)
[2007-07-09T16:44:54+00:00]	<hojjat>	I'm going to email interiot anyways
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[2007-07-09T16:56:08+00:00]	<RobertTs>	hojjat: mine isn't
[2007-07-09T16:56:41+00:00]	<twincest>	DaBPunkt: user databases will never be synced
[2007-07-09T16:56:45+00:00]	<twincest>	DaBPunkt: i created separate databases
[2007-07-09T16:56:50+00:00]	<twincest>	DaBPunkt: i'll look at syncing commons though
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[2007-07-09T17:21:39+00:00]	<twincest>	!replag
[2007-07-09T17:21:40+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 0s [-1s in 405s]; s2: 1s [-1s in 405s]; s3: 9s [0]
[2007-07-09T17:21:44+00:00]	<twincest>	9s :(
[2007-07-09T17:22:28+00:00]	<ST47>	:(
[2007-07-09T17:22:40+00:00]	<ST47>	!replag
[2007-07-09T17:22:40+00:00]	<ST47>	!replag
[2007-07-09T17:22:40+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 1s [0]; s2: 7s [+6s in 61s]; s3: 2s [-7s in 61s]
[2007-07-09T17:22:40+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 1s [0s in 0s]; s2: 7s [0s in 0s]; s3: 2s [0s in 0s]
[2007-07-09T17:22:48+00:00]	<ST47>	mmm
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[2007-07-09T17:40:58+00:00]	*** Misza13 praises mysql for having a group_concat aggregate function \o/ \o/ \o/
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[2007-07-09T17:47:42+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	interiot's tools aren't working
[2007-07-09T17:47:44+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	I think that's what I wanted to tell you, twincest
[2007-07-09T17:47:46+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	*I rememberd becauise of tha tconvo above)
[2007-07-09T17:47:51+00:00]	<twincest>	mail interiot then
[2007-07-09T17:49:00+00:00]	*** White_Cat licks twincest
[2007-07-09T17:49:32+00:00]	*** twincest is now know as mary-kate
[2007-07-09T17:49:48+00:00]	<mary-kate>	hm, someone already registered this nick :(
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[2007-07-09T17:52:23+00:00]	*** DaBPunkt is now know as DaB|Essen
[2007-07-09T17:57:38+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	lol, twincest
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[2007-07-09T18:09:13+00:00]	<Misza13>	Cbrown1023: http://tools.wikimedia.de/~misza13/count.py (omg! shameless self-promotion!)
[2007-07-09T18:09:29+00:00]	<twincest>	misza is a freak and wrote his own python edit counter
[2007-07-09T18:09:35+00:00]	<twincest>	even though mine is already python :)
[2007-07-09T18:09:49+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	heh
[2007-07-09T18:09:56+00:00]	<Misza13>	I didn't know about yours when I started writing mine :P
[2007-07-09T18:10:02+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	thanks Misza :)
[2007-07-09T18:10:10+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	and I didn't know river had one
[2007-07-09T18:10:12+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	O_O
[2007-07-09T18:10:22+00:00]	<twincest>	you two never heard of Kate's Tool?
[2007-07-09T18:10:27+00:00]	<twincest>	[[WP:KT]]!
[2007-07-09T18:10:48+00:00]	<Misza13>	you mean *the* original counter?
[2007-07-09T18:10:52+00:00]	<twincest>	yes!
[2007-07-09T18:11:20+00:00]	<Misza13>	then I have :P
[2007-07-09T18:11:41+00:00]	<Misza13>	those were ancient times...
[2007-07-09T18:11:53+00:00]	<Misza13>	and then the Great Replag came...
[2007-07-09T18:11:56+00:00]	<twincest>	my current one is basically the same code with a new layout :)
[2007-07-09T18:12:05+00:00]	<Misza13>	and Special:Contribs coutners emerged...
[2007-07-09T18:12:06+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	oh yes
[2007-07-09T18:12:09+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	I remember that....
[2007-07-09T18:12:13+00:00]	*** Cbrown1023 loves Kate's tool
[2007-07-09T18:12:21+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	I just don't think it still works
[2007-07-09T18:12:21+00:00]	<twincest>	also, kate.wikipedia.org :D
[2007-07-09T18:12:23+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	:-/
[2007-07-09T18:12:24+00:00]	<twincest>	that was awesome
[2007-07-09T18:12:27+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	O_O
[2007-07-09T18:12:28+00:00]	<twincest>	cross-wiki watchlists!
[2007-07-09T18:12:48+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	wow
[2007-07-09T18:12:50+00:00]	<bainer>	Misza13: all I get is 404.
[2007-07-09T18:13:18+00:00]	<Misza13>	:P
[2007-07-09T18:13:32+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	same
[2007-07-09T18:13:34+00:00]	<Misza13>	/~misza13/cgi-bin/count.py
[2007-07-09T18:13:42+00:00]	<Misza13>	I keep forgetting that cgi-bin bit
[2007-07-09T18:13:55+00:00]	<twincest>	you know, i really like that we are preserving the tradition of cgi-bin
[2007-07-09T18:13:58+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	heh
[2007-07-09T18:14:01+00:00]	<twincest>	so many sites now don't use it
[2007-07-09T18:14:26+00:00]	<Misza13>	I suppose I could use mod_rewrite to mask it :P
[2007-07-09T18:14:42+00:00]	<twincest>	DaB|Essen: are you running dist-upgrade on hemlock?
[2007-07-09T18:14:52+00:00]	<twincest>	root 6051 22502 0 17:46 pts/21 00:00:00 apt-get dist-upgrade
[2007-07-09T18:14:59+00:00]	<Misza13>	:P
[2007-07-09T18:15:31+00:00]	<Misza13>	!uptime
[2007-07-09T18:15:31+00:00]	<replagbot>	18:15:31 up 29 days, 6:58, 28 users, load average: 14.11, 10.69, 8.90
[2007-07-09T18:17:14+00:00]	<symode09>	heya!
[2007-07-09T18:17:34+00:00]	<symode09>	what licences are allowed on the toolserv?
[2007-07-09T18:17:44+00:00]	<twincest>	symode09: must be open source
[2007-07-09T18:17:50+00:00]	<twincest>	symode09: other than that doesn't matter
[2007-07-09T18:18:02+00:00]	<twincest>	which is kinda funny since we run on proprietary software, heh
[2007-07-09T18:18:05+00:00]	<twincest>	but there you go
[2007-07-09T18:18:09+00:00]	<symode09>	xD
[2007-07-09T18:18:11+00:00]	<Misza13>	:>
[2007-07-09T18:18:11+00:00]	<symode09>	kool (gnu is ok?)
[2007-07-09T18:18:11+00:00]	<twincest>	symode09: you don't have to release source immediately
[2007-07-09T18:18:18+00:00]	<twincest>	symode09: but you should do when its finished
[2007-07-09T18:18:30+00:00]	<twincest>	GPL is fine
[2007-07-09T18:18:49+00:00]	<Luxo>	What can the replagbot otherwise still? :)
[2007-07-09T18:18:54+00:00]	<symode09>	koolness, i am in business
[2007-07-09T18:18:57+00:00]	<Luxo>	!help
[2007-07-09T18:19:01+00:00]	<Luxo>	:S
[2007-07-09T18:19:17+00:00]	<Misza13>	!whatcanreplagbotdo?
[2007-07-09T18:19:23+00:00]	<Misza13>	!top
[2007-07-09T18:19:24+00:00]	<replagbot>	PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 23576 interiot 18 2 50864 22m 1908 S 55 0.3 0:01.37 /usr/bin/perl wanna
[2007-07-09T18:19:39+00:00]	<Misza13>	lol
[2007-07-09T18:19:53+00:00]	<Misza13>	it's borken and yet it made tothe top on a random query
[2007-07-09T18:20:24+00:00]	<Misza13>	WP suffers from severe editcountitis
[2007-07-09T18:20:35+00:00]	<twincest>	yes
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[2007-07-09T18:22:35+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	re
[2007-07-09T18:22:39+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	twincest: dist-upgrade done
[2007-07-09T18:22:43+00:00]	<twincest>	k
[2007-07-09T18:23:58+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	Misza13: your count doesn't show deleted?
[2007-07-09T18:24:27+00:00]	<Misza13>	nope, Vasilliev has a detailed tool for that
[2007-07-09T18:24:42+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	linky?
[2007-07-09T18:24:45+00:00]	<Misza13>	queries on the archive table are very non-efficient
[2007-07-09T18:25:11+00:00]	<Misza13>	http://tools.wikimedia.org/~vvv/deletedcontribs.php
[2007-07-09T18:25:33+00:00]	<erwin85>	Does anyone know if interiot's planning to fix his tool then?
[2007-07-09T18:25:34+00:00]	*** Cbrown1023 huggles Misza
[2007-07-09T18:25:39+00:00]	<Misza13>	I might add one counter (deleted contribs total) but grouping them by namespace or month is out of the question
[2007-07-09T18:25:41+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	erwin85: does he know they're borken?
[2007-07-09T18:25:54+00:00]	<Misza13>	I doubt he does
[2007-07-09T18:26:07+00:00]	<erwin85>	According to the Dutch village pump he does.
[2007-07-09T18:26:55+00:00]	<Misza13>	then he doesn't care and the end result is same
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[2007-07-09T18:29:30+00:00]	<ST47>	!replag
[2007-07-09T18:29:30+00:00]	<replagbot>	s1: 1s [0s in 45s]; s2: 2s [-6s in 45s]; s3: 3s [+2s in 45s]
[2007-07-09T18:29:43+00:00]	<twincest>	stv: what changed?
[2007-07-09T18:29:51+00:00]	<Luxo>	!help
[2007-07-09T18:30:06+00:00]	<Luxo>	:S make a help-function ;)
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[2007-07-09T18:30:24+00:00]	<stv>	replagbot: help
[2007-07-09T18:30:25+00:00]	<replagbot>	help: !replag (s[1-3]), !uptime, !top
[2007-07-09T18:30:38+00:00]	<Luxo>	ah :)
[2007-07-09T18:30:58+00:00]	<Misza13>	>:)
[2007-07-09T18:31:00+00:00]	<Luxo>	!top
[2007-07-09T18:31:01+00:00]	<replagbot>	30024 interiot 18 2 45084 17m 1908 R 83 0.2 0:00.56 /usr/bin/perl wannabe_kate
[2007-07-09T18:31:03+00:00]	<Misza13>	!replag 24
[2007-07-09T18:31:08+00:00]	<Misza13>	!replag s4
[2007-07-09T18:31:12+00:00]	<Misza13>	>:)
[2007-07-09T18:32:14+00:00]	<symode09>	:)
[2007-07-09T18:33:23+00:00]	<yrithinnd>	!uptime
[2007-07-09T18:33:23+00:00]	<replagbot>	18:33:23 up 29 days, 7:16, 27 users, load average: 17.14, 20.07, 16.94
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[2007-07-09T18:34:02+00:00]	<ST47>	yay
[2007-07-09T18:34:12+00:00]	<twincest>	heh 29 days
[2007-07-09T18:34:22+00:00]	<twincest>	must be the longest time yet Linux hasn't had a remote root exploit
[2007-07-09T18:34:23+00:00]	<twincest>	:D
[2007-07-09T18:34:40+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	haha ...
[2007-07-09T18:35:24+00:00]	<twincest>	i want to change to freebsd, in 7.0 they will have zfs
[2007-07-09T18:36:42+00:00]	<bainer>	what version of PHP do the toolservers run?
[2007-07-09T18:36:48+00:00]	<twincest>	5
[2007-07-09T18:36:57+00:00]	<bainer>	thanks
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[2007-07-09T18:41:50+00:00]	<valhallasw>	zfs?
[2007-07-09T18:42:07+00:00]	<twincest>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS
[2007-07-09T18:42:27+00:00]	<valhallasw>	zettabyte fi.. right, it actually is called that :D
[2007-07-09T18:43:13+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	valhallasw: zfs is the only thing, that is better on solaris ;)
[2007-07-09T18:43:19+00:00]	<valhallasw>	:D
[2007-07-09T18:43:19+00:00]	<twincest>	DaBPunkt: dtrace!
[2007-07-09T18:43:35+00:00]	<valhallasw>	but what's the main advantage?
[2007-07-09T18:43:35+00:00]	*** DaBPunkt waits for integration in the linux-kernel too
[2007-07-09T18:43:46+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	valhallasw: dynamic partion-size
[2007-07-09T18:43:54+00:00]	*** Connel is relieved that doesn't mean "zero file system"...though it will be, the first time someone hits an error.
[2007-07-09T18:43:59+00:00]	<twincest>	valhallasw: it's a combined filesystem and volume manager
[2007-07-09T18:44:03+00:00]	<valhallasw>	ah right
[2007-07-09T18:44:08+00:00]	<valhallasw>	so it's easy to add another disc
[2007-07-09T18:44:09+00:00]	<twincest>	valhallasw: filesystem grow dynamically, etc
[2007-07-09T18:44:10+00:00]	<valhallasw>	disk?
[2007-07-09T18:44:11+00:00]	<valhallasw>	heh.
[2007-07-09T18:44:14+00:00]	<twincest>	on-disk compression, checksums
[2007-07-09T18:44:20+00:00]	<twincest>	per-filesystem quotas
[2007-07-09T18:44:31+00:00]	<twincest>	extremely cheap to create filesystem - so every user's $HOME can be a filesystem
[2007-07-09T18:44:38+00:00]	<valhallasw>	:o
[2007-07-09T18:44:55+00:00]	<valhallasw>	but.. why would that be an advantage? :P
[2007-07-09T18:45:10+00:00]	<twincest>	easier to manage
[2007-07-09T18:45:21+00:00]	<twincest>	set compression for the filesystem that stores source code
[2007-07-09T18:45:21+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	valhallasw: you can define a maximum-size for every partion
[2007-07-09T18:45:21+00:00]	<valhallasw>	rm -rf not good enough? :P
[2007-07-09T18:45:24+00:00]	<twincest>	oh - snapshots!
[2007-07-09T18:45:33+00:00]	<twincest>	real snapshots, with proper FS consistency
[2007-07-09T18:45:35+00:00]	<valhallasw>	DaBPunkt: doesn't quota work?
[2007-07-09T18:45:38+00:00]	<twincest>	each user can snapshopt his own home directory
[2007-07-09T18:45:48+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	the only thing missing at the moment at zfs is encrytion
[2007-07-09T18:45:56+00:00]	<twincest>	encryption is being worked on :)
[2007-07-09T18:46:01+00:00]	*** valhallasw again does not see the need for snapshots
[2007-07-09T18:46:06+00:00]	<twincest>	valhallasw: imagine backups
[2007-07-09T18:46:09+00:00]	<valhallasw>	yes
[2007-07-09T18:46:10+00:00]	<twincest>	you snapshot on monday
[2007-07-09T18:46:11+00:00]	<twincest>	backup it
[2007-07-09T18:46:21+00:00]	<twincest>	snapshot on tuesday - backup the differences to monday
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[2007-07-09T18:46:42+00:00]	<valhallasw>	hrm
[2007-07-09T18:46:44+00:00]	<twincest>	zfs root - snapshot, install a new kernel, oops you broke your system, rollback your / to the last working system
[2007-07-09T18:47:14+00:00]	<twincest>	and the best thing is, all these features are -really- easy to use
[2007-07-09T18:47:22+00:00]	<valhallasw>	mkay
[2007-07-09T18:47:23+00:00]	<twincest>	compared to any other filesystem/volume manager
[2007-07-09T18:48:34+00:00]	<twincest>	downside of zfs - it's not always very fast
[2007-07-09T18:48:38+00:00]	<twincest>	e.g. it sucks a lot for MySQL
[2007-07-09T18:48:48+00:00]	<twincest>	(for general filesystem usage it's generally comparable or faster to other FSs)
[2007-07-09T18:49:58+00:00]	<valhallasw>	I still wonder why there is no MySQLfs
[2007-07-09T18:50:14+00:00]	<valhallasw>	it shouldn't be too hard to write a filesystem that is very well suited for databases
[2007-07-09T18:50:15+00:00]	<twincest>	mogilefs :)
[2007-07-09T18:50:32+00:00]	<twincest>	on the new toolserver i am using SAM-QFS for mysql
[2007-07-09T18:50:40+00:00]	<twincest>	it provides good performance, better than UFS
[2007-07-09T18:51:16+00:00]	<valhallasw>	ah
[2007-07-09T18:51:21+00:00]	<valhallasw>	mogilefs looks nice
[2007-07-09T18:51:56+00:00]	<valhallasw>	I might even go and use that on my own server :)
[2007-07-09T18:52:10+00:00]	<twincest>	it's not very useful on a single server, i think
[2007-07-09T18:52:58+00:00]	<valhallasw>	I'm going to use it from a second house ;)
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[2007-07-09T18:53:51+00:00]	<valhallasw>	but once there is a win32 version... I'm going to set it up
[2007-07-09T18:54:24+00:00]	<valhallasw>	very useful for backups :)
[2007-07-09T18:56:33+00:00]	*** twincest is now know as _mary_kate_
[2007-07-09T18:57:35+00:00]	*** symode09 noodles anyone?
[2007-07-09T18:58:04+00:00]	<valhallasw>	oi
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[2007-07-09T19:05:06+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	DaBPunkt: why aren't / and swap mirrored on hemlock?
[2007-07-09T19:05:41+00:00]	<valhallasw>	what's the use of mirroring swap?
[2007-07-09T19:05:58+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	_mary_kate_: swap is
[2007-07-09T19:06:16+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	is raid0, not raid1
[2007-07-09T19:06:19+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	Filename Type Size Used Priority
[2007-07-09T19:06:25+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	/dev/sda2 partition 1172736 1009488 0
[2007-07-09T19:06:25+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	/dev/sdb2 partition 1172736 1009704 0
[2007-07-09T19:06:30+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	that's not a mirror :D
[2007-07-09T19:06:56+00:00]	<OrgulloKmoore>	siebrand> ping?
[2007-07-09T19:07:13+00:00]	<siebrand>	OrgulloKmoore: pong
[2007-07-09T19:07:20+00:00]	<OrgulloKmoore>	They blocked commonsDelinker on es: because it was malfunctioning...are you aware?
[2007-07-09T19:07:35+00:00]	<siebrand>	OrgulloKmoore: yep. Made a few errors. Bryan is working on it.
[2007-07-09T19:07:39+00:00]	<OrgulloKmoore>	k
[2007-07-09T19:07:49+00:00]	<siebrand>	OrgulloKmoore: they are quite triggerhappy, obviously... and not telling me...
[2007-07-09T19:07:52+00:00]	<OrgulloKmoore>	I'm just telling you because they told me :-p
[2007-07-09T19:07:55+00:00]	<siebrand>	OrgulloKmoore: for how long?
[2007-07-09T19:08:10+00:00]	<OrgulloKmoore>	umm...not sure, but I'll unblock it as soon as you fix it
[2007-07-09T19:08:35+00:00]	<OrgulloKmoore>	(or as soon as you tell me that you're ready; i.e., you're not running it, or you're controlling it)
[2007-07-09T19:08:36+00:00]	<Bryan>	it's a strange error...
[2007-07-09T19:08:52+00:00]	<Bryan>	OrgulloKmoore: are we talking about http://es.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Banderas_de_los_Estados_de_Brasil&diff=prev&oldid=9945521 ?
[2007-07-09T19:08:57+00:00]	<siebrand>	Bryan: you're still using OrgulloKmoore replace syntax, aren't you?
[2007-07-09T19:09:08+00:00]	<Bryan>	well, not excactly
[2007-07-09T19:09:11+00:00]	<OrgulloKmoore>	no clue, Bryan
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[2007-07-09T19:09:32+00:00]	<Bryan>	siebrand: or what do you mean by replace syntax?
[2007-07-09T19:09:35+00:00]	<siebrand>	Bryan: that type of change has been made all over...
[2007-07-09T19:09:50+00:00]	<siebrand>	Bryan: that type of edit also happened with the old code base
[2007-07-09T19:10:15+00:00]	<Bryan>	ok. well, then I know where to look
[2007-07-09T19:10:16+00:00]	<siebrand>	as if a part of the filename is so similar, something gets mixed up
[2007-07-09T19:10:31+00:00]	<Bryan>	and only in galleries
[2007-07-09T19:10:46+00:00]	<siebrand>	Bryan: not sure about that..
[2007-07-09T19:13:01+00:00]	<valhallasw>	Bryan: check parser.py. it now correctly recognizes pagelinks, and such image links
[2007-07-09T19:13:24+00:00]	<Bryan>	valhallasw: including [[Image:test.jpg|With [[embedded]] links]] ?
[2007-07-09T19:13:28+00:00]	<valhallasw>	yes
[2007-07-09T19:13:42+00:00]	<valhallasw>	including [[i[[evil]]|link]]
[2007-07-09T19:13:49+00:00]	<valhallasw>	not templates, but that can be easily fixed
[2007-07-09T19:13:58+00:00]	<valhallasw>	i.e. it tokenizes templates, but does not parse them
[2007-07-09T19:14:47+00:00]	<valhallasw>	and the current version is very hacky
[2007-07-09T19:15:17+00:00]	<valhallasw>	and the lexer is not working correctly for the last character :p
[2007-07-09T19:15:27+00:00]	<valhallasw>	('', 'Image:test.jpg', [['With ', ('', 'embedded', ''), ' links']], '')
[2007-07-09T19:15:59+00:00]	<valhallasw>	(prepending [, title, [list of params], appending ])
[2007-07-09T19:16:27+00:00]	<valhallasw>	as I said, it's pretty hacky :p
[2007-07-09T19:17:45+00:00]	<valhallasw>	and it has not been thoroughly tested
[2007-07-09T19:18:04+00:00]	<valhallasw>	oh, crap. it doesnt support galleries :p
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[2007-07-09T19:22:23+00:00]	<valhallasw>	Bryan: but in theory, it should even be able to parse {{template|{| table parameter |}}} correctly
[2007-07-09T19:22:42+00:00]	<Bryan>	there is no correct syntax for that ;)
[2007-07-09T19:23:26+00:00]	<Bryan>	brilliant... utf & consoles
[2007-07-09T19:23:31+00:00]	<valhallasw>	if you want a seperate {, use a space behind it. or &;
[2007-07-09T19:24:08+00:00]	<valhallasw>	that all is more logical than using {{!}} because mediawiki does not understand the difference between a table and a template parameter
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[2007-07-09T19:28:48+00:00]	<mashiah>	!replag
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[2007-07-09T19:48:56+00:00]	<Bryan>	siebrand, OrgulloKmoore: fixed
[2007-07-09T19:52:24+00:00]	<siebrand>	Bryan: nice!
[2007-07-09T19:52:37+00:00]	<Bryan>	thanks to valhallasw :)
[2007-07-09T19:52:53+00:00]	<siebrand>	commit komt eraan?
[2007-07-09T19:52:57+00:00]	<Bryan>	siebrand: I exitted the old delinker instance, but it is still running
[2007-07-09T19:53:05+00:00]	<Bryan>	because of some heavy server lag
[2007-07-09T19:53:15+00:00]	<Bryan>	so I started a new instance in another screen
[2007-07-09T19:53:23+00:00]	<Bryan>	(that's where the two screens come from)
[2007-07-09T19:53:25+00:00]	<siebrand>	Bryan: yep. Ik neem aan dat replace pas uit de tabel wordt verwijderd als die helemaal is afgerond?
[2007-07-09T19:53:38+00:00]	<Bryan>	ja
[2007-07-09T19:54:01+00:00]	<siebrand>	Bryan: ik zit te twijfelen of ik 'm moet afschieten.
[2007-07-09T19:54:11+00:00]	<siebrand>	Ik vermoed dat alles 'on hold' staat.
[2007-07-09T19:54:11+00:00]	<Bryan>	laat maar draaien
[2007-07-09T19:54:46+00:00]	<Bryan>	bryan@hemlock:~/projects/delinker$ tail -n 3 /home/siebrand/pywikipedia/log.txt
[2007-07-09T19:54:47+00:00]	<siebrand>	ok.
[2007-07-09T19:54:48+00:00]	<Bryan>	[2007-07-09 19:54:34] Usage of Bandeira_de_Roraima.svg: {'en.wikipedia.org': [(2, u'Elmo12456/Sandbox_page/Flags_of_the_world_list', u'User:Elmo12456/Sandbox_page/Flags_of_the_world_list')]}
[2007-07-09T19:54:49+00:00]	<Bryan>	Changing page [[wikipedia:en:Butterfly]]
[2007-07-09T19:54:51+00:00]	<Bryan>	Pausing 5 seconds due to excessive database server lag.
[2007-07-09T19:54:52+00:00]	<Bryan>	etc
[2007-07-09T19:54:58+00:00]	*** siebrand nods.,
[2007-07-09T19:55:09+00:00]	<Bryan>	it will auto-exit once the queue is done
[2007-07-09T19:55:17+00:00]	<Bryan>	(at least I programmed it to do so)
[2007-07-09T19:55:29+00:00]	<siebrand>	ah, ok.
[2007-07-09T19:55:48+00:00]	<siebrand>	python.exe: 205 threads.
[2007-07-09T19:55:57+00:00]	<siebrand>	~200 edits on en.wp queued.
[2007-07-09T19:56:06+00:00]	<siebrand>	(imagecopy.py)
[2007-07-09T19:56:13+00:00]	<Bryan>	uh, lol
[2007-07-09T19:56:25+00:00]	<Bryan>	that's why one should never spawn unlimited threads ;)
[2007-07-09T19:56:55+00:00]	<siebrand>	peak memory: 58MB. Not that bad... Can have a few thousand more
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[2007-07-09T20:02:23+00:00]	<Bryan>	This makes me happy.
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[2007-07-09T20:50:59+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	I'm glad the toolserver db's don't suck anymore... I can run somewhat expensive queries without lagging it out.. thats how things were when it first went up.
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[2007-07-09T20:57:43+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	O_O you're that old?! :-P :-D
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[2007-07-09T21:12:13+00:00]	<siebrand>	Duesentrieb: any idea if/when CommonSense will be fixed for the s1 addition?
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[2007-07-09T21:41:32+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	siebrand: if/when the commons db is replicated to the second db server.
[2007-07-09T21:41:57+00:00]	<siebrand>	Duesentrieb: eew. It's not (yet)?
[2007-07-09T21:42:05+00:00]	<siebrand>	I thought everything was done...
[2007-07-09T21:44:28+00:00]	<Duesentrieb>	siebrand: commons is replicated to zedler. it's not replicated to yarrow (yet). It was not planned to replicated it to both servers - but I need it on both, to be able to join tables between the commons db and the wiki db (mainly to see which images used on a wiki are from commons, wich local, and which missing)
[2007-07-09T21:44:54+00:00]	<siebrand>	Duesentrieb: ah, like that...
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[2007-07-09T22:13:06+00:00]	<mashiah>	who can give me an explanation of situation with error 1213 (Deadlock detected) when I select from readonly db into my own one using 'SESSION TRANSACTION ISOLATION LEVEL READ UNCOMMITTED'. Where the deadlock may occur and why?
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[2007-07-10T12:01:35+00:00]	<Bryan>	!replag
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[2007-07-10T12:13:12+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	Why .login doesn't work?
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[2007-07-10T12:23:07+00:00]	<para>	.bash_profile does
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[2007-07-10T12:37:08+00:00]	<cary>	Okay, there's a tool that shows the active admins on a wikipedia project
[2007-07-10T12:37:14+00:00]	<cary>	Only I can't remember where it is
[2007-07-10T12:38:38+00:00]	<ST47>	Special:Listusers?
[2007-07-10T12:38:43+00:00]	<ST47>	Oh, active
[2007-07-10T12:38:43+00:00]	<cary>	noo
[2007-07-10T12:39:01+00:00]	<cary>	It shows what admins haven't used their tools in XX days
[2007-07-10T12:39:27+00:00]	<para>	I think it was http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gunther/adminaktivitaet.php?dbname=commonswiki_p but it's broken because gunther is inactive
[2007-07-10T12:40:19+00:00]	<Neko-at-Kinmu>	hmmm
[2007-07-10T12:40:29+00:00]	<Neko-at-Kinmu>	I sense a cary in seach of answers
[2007-07-10T12:40:59+00:00]	<cary>	para that looks good
[2007-07-10T12:41:03+00:00]	<cary>	garg
[2007-07-10T12:41:08+00:00]	<para>	cary: there's a cached version from march if that makes you happy ... http://web.archive.org/web/20070319131204/http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gunther/adminaktivitaet.php?dbname=commonswiki_p
[2007-07-10T12:41:17+00:00]	<cary>	Except I need idwiki
[2007-07-10T12:41:32+00:00]	<para>	oh right there's other wikis too than just commons
[2007-07-10T12:41:52+00:00]	<cary>	right :)
[2007-07-10T12:42:35+00:00]	<para>	I remember someone asking for gunther's tools here before, too... Someone should poke him
[2007-07-10T12:44:36+00:00]	<para>	cary: there's also a Duesentrieb tool but the toolserver admins broke them. http://tools.wikimedia.de/~daniel/WikiSense/ActiveUsers.php?wikilang=id&wikifam=.wikipedia.org&groups=sysop&tags=&cats=&order=-timestamp&max=100&order=-timestamp&format=html
[2007-07-10T12:45:11+00:00]	<cary>	I don't want broken tools
[2007-07-10T12:46:00+00:00]	<para>	_mary_kate_ to the rescue?
[2007-07-10T12:46:26+00:00]	<cary>	brb
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[2007-07-10T12:51:21+00:00]	<heinz>	!replag
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[2007-07-10T12:52:03+00:00]	<para>	http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Gunther is inactive so no wonder he didn't read the mailing list. what is done in these cases?
[2007-07-10T12:53:02+00:00]	<Bryan>	somebody could create one...
[2007-07-10T12:54:12+00:00]	<para>	isn't it silly to have to rewrite a nicely working tool just because the creator who intended it to be used by anyone, disappears?
[2007-07-10T12:54:40+00:00]	<para>	what's the status of stuff "submitted" to the toolserver anyway? licensing etc?
[2007-07-10T12:54:46+00:00]	<cary-office>	Maybe he's incapacitated
[2007-07-10T12:55:04+00:00]	<Bryan>	everybody should just use his svn
[2007-07-10T12:55:20+00:00]	<cary-office>	Anyway, his tool is great. I'm sorry it doesn't presently work
[2007-07-10T12:55:25+00:00]	<Bryan>	and yes, it is silly to rewrite, but it is probably the only solution right now
[2007-07-10T12:55:48+00:00]	<para>	couldn't an admin just restore a tool, if the users want it?
[2007-07-10T12:56:14+00:00]	<para>	unless it requires maintenance, of course
[2007-07-10T13:00:40+00:00]	<Neko-at-Kinmu>	?
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[2007-07-10T13:23:47+00:00]	<Bryan>	http://tools.wikimedia.de/~bryan/commons_admins.php
[2007-07-10T13:23:56+00:00]	<Bryan>	now in some readable form :)
[2007-07-10T13:24:33+00:00]	<ST47>	that's readable?
[2007-07-10T13:24:50+00:00]	<Bryan>	not yet
[2007-07-10T13:24:50+00:00]	<cary-office>	er
[2007-07-10T13:24:59+00:00]	<cary-office>	That's an array
[2007-07-10T13:25:06+00:00]	<cary-office>	you need to work on the php
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[2007-07-10T13:27:20+00:00]	<Neko-at-Kinmu>	cary-office you know arrays?
[2007-07-10T13:27:30+00:00]	<cary-office>	I know arrays
[2007-07-10T13:27:40+00:00]	<Neko-at-Kinmu>	good
[2007-07-10T13:27:46+00:00]	*** Neko-at-Kinmu traps cary-office in an array
[2007-07-10T13:27:54+00:00]	*** cary-office unsets cary-office
[2007-07-10T13:28:07+00:00]	<ST47>	suicide is bad.
[2007-07-10T13:28:08+00:00]	*** Neko-at-Kinmu destroys cary-office's data
[2007-07-10T13:28:16+00:00]	<Neko-at-Kinmu>	ST47 not really
[2007-07-10T13:28:19+00:00]	<Neko-at-Kinmu>	suicide is great
[2007-07-10T13:28:29+00:00]	<Neko-at-Kinmu>	if only it wasnt a terminal condition
[2007-07-10T13:29:12+00:00]	<Bryan>	what is the html entity for infinity?
[2007-07-10T13:29:38+00:00]	<ST47>	&inf;
[2007-07-10T13:29:38+00:00]	<Neko-at-Kinmu>	that exist?
[2007-07-10T13:29:40+00:00]	<ST47>	Maybe.
[2007-07-10T13:29:44+00:00]	<Neko-at-Kinmu>	oh like that
[2007-07-10T13:29:59+00:00]	<Neko-at-Kinmu>	Bryan why not use unicode?
[2007-07-10T13:30:23+00:00]	<Bryan>	because I don't know how to configure the terminal & stuff for that
[2007-07-10T13:30:31+00:00]	<Neko-at-Kinmu>	heh
[2007-07-10T13:30:41+00:00]	<Bryan>	and I don't have an editor that supports UCS2
[2007-07-10T13:30:49+00:00]	<Bryan>	you probably meant UTF-8 ;)
[2007-07-10T13:31:08+00:00]	<ST47>	it's ∞
[2007-07-10T13:31:33+00:00]	<Neko-at-Kinmu>	infin sounds like a french name
[2007-07-10T13:31:51+00:00]	*** cary-office array_shifts
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[2007-07-10T13:41:57+00:00]	*** Neko-at-Kinmu doesnt think cary-office is that fat
[2007-07-10T13:41:59+00:00]	<Neko-at-Kinmu>	not enough mass
[2007-07-10T13:42:39+00:00]	*** valhallasw estimated cary-office at 12 solar masses
[2007-07-10T13:43:48+00:00]	*** cary-office array_reduces
[2007-07-10T13:45:12+00:00]	*** valhallasw estimates cary-office at 11.8 soler masses
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[2007-07-10T13:47:46+00:00]	<ST47>	What's that tool that graphs interwikis from a certain article?
[2007-07-10T13:48:15+00:00]	<valhallasw>	interwiki-graph.py
[2007-07-10T13:48:23+00:00]	<valhallasw>	but it's not practically useable
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[2007-07-10T13:52:42+00:00]	<ST47>	:(
[2007-07-10T13:56:58+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	VasilievVV: .login is for csh. your shell is bash.
[2007-07-10T13:58:33+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	_mary_kate_: I already use bash_profile. Thanks
[2007-07-10T14:00:56+00:00]	<dungodung>	_mary_kate_: where's ashley?
[2007-07-10T14:07:32+00:00]	<ST47>	cd #pywikipedia
[2007-07-10T14:07:49+00:00]	<ST47>	no...
[2007-07-10T14:08:12+00:00]	<valhallasw>	ST47: ?
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[2007-07-10T14:55:52+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	My name is Michal Haile and I have found your website
[2007-07-10T14:55:52+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	http://www.tools.wikimedia.de http://www.tools.wikimedia.de/ while surfing. And
[2007-07-10T14:55:52+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	I would like to acquire
[2007-07-10T14:55:52+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	your site from you for appropriate financial compensation. If you are
[2007-07-10T14:55:53+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	willing to discuss, please let me know.
[2007-07-10T14:55:59+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	hm... how much should we ask?
[2007-07-10T14:56:51+00:00]	<ST47>	:)
[2007-07-10T14:57:13+00:00]	<ST47>	well, it is a wikimedia domain, tha'ts got to be worth a few thousand.
[2007-07-10T14:57:34+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	As much as he want
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[2007-07-10T15:01:23+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	lol
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[2007-07-10T15:02:02+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	_mary_kate_: how much you got? :-P
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[2007-07-10T16:02:26+00:00]	<Luxo|away>	!replag s2
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[2007-07-10T16:02:37+00:00]	<Luxo|away>	:)
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[2007-07-10T16:08:51+00:00]	<para>	_mary_kate_: I added time stamps and process numbers to my * * * * * running cronjob, and I now see that two different processes give output on the same second, even though there's only one job. how?
[2007-07-10T16:09:36+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	hmm, it's only running it once
[2007-07-10T16:10:10+00:00]	<para>	yea, the runlog only gets one entry every time
[2007-07-10T16:11:00+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	dunno
[2007-07-10T16:11:04+00:00]	<para>	hemlock didn't see any changes during the zedler reinstall, right?
[2007-07-10T16:11:12+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	no
[2007-07-10T16:11:26+00:00]	<para>	odd odd. I didn't get these errors before it
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[2007-07-10T16:21:31+00:00]	<para>	could php's mysql functions maybe fork to another process and therefore create two separate error mails?
[2007-07-10T16:23:01+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	unlikely
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[2007-07-10T16:26:47+00:00]	<para>	the script's exit() message comes from the process that cron started, but the mysql error from some other process. wonder what other useful info I could make it print other than the pid?
[2007-07-10T16:26:59+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	ppid
[2007-07-10T16:28:30+00:00]	<para>	I don't think that's available other than with manual forks .. or is it?
[2007-07-10T16:29:59+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	i don't know what that means
[2007-07-10T16:30:08+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	any process can call getppid()
[2007-07-10T16:30:23+00:00]	<para>	but that doesn't exist in php
[2007-07-10T16:30:37+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	http://uk.php.net/manual/en/function.posix-getppid.php
[2007-07-10T16:31:28+00:00]	<para>	hmm ok, thanks, I'll see what that gives
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[2007-07-10T16:59:13+00:00]	<ST47>	_mary_kate_, has anything been changed on toolserver in the last...24 hours or so?
[2007-07-10T16:59:29+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	couple of libraries get upgraded
[2007-07-10T16:59:42+00:00]	<ST47>	Are they listed anywhere?
[2007-07-10T17:00:42+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	libwww-mechanize-perl 1.30-2, libvorbisfile3 1.1.2.dfsg-2, libvorbisenc2 1.1.2.dfsg-2, libvorbis0a 1.1.2.dfsg-2
[2007-07-10T17:00:55+00:00]	<ST47>	Yep, that would do it.
[2007-07-10T17:00:56+00:00]	<ST47>	Thanks
[2007-07-10T17:04:20+00:00]	<White_Cat>	ST47 do you have toolserva ccess?
[2007-07-10T17:04:35+00:00]	<ST47>	Yes, I do.
[2007-07-10T17:04:39+00:00]	<White_Cat>	can you please give me the number of uploads and number of image deletions on both en.wiki abd commons
[2007-07-10T17:04:45+00:00]	<White_Cat>	preferably other wikis too
[2007-07-10T17:05:00+00:00]	<White_Cat>	I also would like a rate
[2007-07-10T17:05:05+00:00]	<ST47>	ok, and how do I do that?
[2007-07-10T17:05:25+00:00]	<White_Cat>	youd count the number of uploads in the past day
[2007-07-10T17:05:31+00:00]	<White_Cat>	should be kept on a log table
[2007-07-10T17:05:51+00:00]	<White_Cat>	the exact answer is "wakarimasen" (I dont know)
[2007-07-10T17:06:13+00:00]	<ST47>	yeah...
[2007-07-10T17:06:27+00:00]	<ST47>	I need to upload WWW::Mech. Enjoy your day :)
[2007-07-10T17:06:47+00:00]	<White_Cat>	can anyone else provide this info
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[2007-07-10T17:08:16+00:00]	<para>	find gmaxwell, he had pretty graphs of that exactly
[2007-07-10T17:09:15+00:00]	<White_Cat>	he is MIA
[2007-07-10T17:09:39+00:00]	<White_Cat>	i need numbers not graphs :)
[2007-07-10T17:09:57+00:00]	<para>	he's been around. you can see vague numbers from graphs
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[2007-07-10T17:15:21+00:00]	<White_Cat>	somebody is asking them for a scientific conferance so
[2007-07-10T17:15:34+00:00]	<White_Cat>	I need the numbers as soon as possible :)
[2007-07-10T17:16:50+00:00]	<para>	someone would have to write some code for that
[2007-07-10T17:18:30+00:00]	<anaconda>	dungodung :-)
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[2007-07-10T18:04:16+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	fixed the edit counter :)
[2007-07-10T18:06:05+00:00]	<ST47>	:)
[2007-07-10T18:06:16+00:00]	<ST47>	And god killed a kitten.
[2007-07-10T18:11:03+00:00]	<valhallasw>	again?
[2007-07-10T18:11:05+00:00]	<valhallasw>	poor kitten :(
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[2007-07-10T18:23:53+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	i guess i should set up commons replication to yarrow
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[2007-07-10T18:50:05+00:00]	<Jack_Bauer>	hi ST47, ping
[2007-07-10T18:50:12+00:00]	<ST47>	pong
[2007-07-10T18:50:32+00:00]	<Jack_Bauer>	can you runs anytime interwiki bot, usen w:es as reference
[2007-07-10T18:50:46+00:00]	<Jack_Bauer>	using* (stupid english)
[2007-07-10T18:50:52+00:00]	<ST47>	Yeah, sure.
[2007-07-10T18:51:03+00:00]	<ST47>	I'be been bouncing around between wikis.
[2007-07-10T18:51:07+00:00]	<Jack_Bauer>	thanks, we have no user with flag on w:en
[2007-07-10T18:51:10+00:00]	<ST47>	Do you mind where I start at?
[2007-07-10T18:51:13+00:00]	<Jack_Bauer>	ohh, fantastic
[2007-07-10T18:51:22+00:00]	<Jack_Bauer>	A :P
[2007-07-10T18:51:33+00:00]	<ST47>	:P
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[2007-07-10T18:51:45+00:00]	<Jack_Bauer>	:**
[2007-07-10T18:52:02+00:00]	<ST47>	How many articles do you have in eswiki
[2007-07-10T18:52:39+00:00]	<Jack_Bauer>	few time ago, some users complain cos, they translate articles than we have with other name :( and have no iw
[2007-07-10T18:52:41+00:00]	<Jack_Bauer>	250K
[2007-07-10T18:53:06+00:00]	<ST47>	OK, running :D
[2007-07-10T19:01:39+00:00]	<para>	_mary_kate_: finally got some ppid numbers: the php mysql error comes from some process whose pid and ppid are totally different from the php process that writes to the logfile. makes no sense
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[2007-07-10T20:28:50+00:00]	<valhallasw>	is it possible to pipe time's output to stdout?
[2007-07-10T20:28:59+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	er
[2007-07-10T20:29:03+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	what?
[2007-07-10T20:29:13+00:00]	<valhallasw>	like 'time > log'
[2007-07-10T20:29:32+00:00]	<valhallasw>	the -p switch should write to stderr, but I fail in fetching it
[2007-07-10T20:30:34+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	/usr/bin/time 2>&1
[2007-07-10T20:31:10+00:00]	<valhallasw>	hmm
[2007-07-10T20:31:12+00:00]	<valhallasw>	thanks
[2007-07-10T20:31:41+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	(time is a builtin in many shells with odd behaviour)
[2007-07-10T20:31:52+00:00]	<valhallasw>	as it doesn't work too well :)
[2007-07-10T20:32:08+00:00]	<valhallasw>	ah well
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[2007-07-10T23:21:06+00:00]	<DaBPunkt>	!replag
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[2007-07-10T23:24:41+00:00]	<Jack_Bauer>	!replag
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[2007-07-11T00:48:44+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	!replag
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[2007-07-11T00:48:51+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	:-D
[2007-07-11T00:48:57+00:00]	*** Cbrown1023 hugles _mary_kate_
[2007-07-11T00:49:12+00:00]	<TheLetterE-Away>	No need to check anymore ;P
[2007-07-11T00:49:34+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	is en-wiki still s1?
[2007-07-11T00:50:08+00:00]	<TheLetterE-Away>	Yep
[2007-07-11T00:50:24+00:00]	<TheLetterE-Away>	see http://tools.wikimedia.de/~e/replag/
[2007-07-11T00:50:27+00:00]	<TheLetterE-Away>	:D
[2007-07-11T00:51:12+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	I just wasn't sure if it was changed
[2007-07-11T00:51:21+00:00]	<TheLetterE-Away>	Oh okay :)
[2007-07-11T00:52:42+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	but in case I hadn't known, that would have been helpful, thanks
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[2007-07-11T03:50:35+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	Cbrown1023_sleep: s1 is _only_ enwiki (its very big)
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[2007-07-11T04:19:10+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	hemlock will reboot shortly (kernel upgrade)
[2007-07-11T04:28:35+00:00]	<Cbrown1023_sleep>	_mary_kate_: that's what it used to be, so that's what I thought. :) I just wasn't sure if you moved anything around due to the new hardware :-/
[2007-07-11T04:29:04+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	the cluster<->db assignments are the same as the WMF servers use
[2007-07-11T04:29:48+00:00]	*** Cbrown1023_sleep sees now :)
[2007-07-11T04:29:50+00:00]	<Cbrown1023_sleep>	thanks
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[2007-07-11T04:58:54+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	I'm assuming the reboot of hemlock is intended ? ;)
[2007-07-11T04:59:13+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	no. i meant to type 'w', but the 'shutdown -r +10' key is right next to the w key
[2007-07-11T04:59:18+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	heheh
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[2007-07-11T04:59:48+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	Well I've actually seen (and rescued) an accidental timed shutdown before.. (shutdown on the wrong box)
[2007-07-11T04:59:58+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	oh, we've done that lots :)
[2007-07-11T05:00:12+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	kyle accidentally ctrl-alt-del'd zwinger while ssh'd to another host
[2007-07-11T05:00:26+00:00]	<OrgulloKmoore>	what?
[2007-07-11T05:00:34+00:00]	<OrgulloKmoore>	My name is Kyle, are you talking about me?
[2007-07-11T05:00:43+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	no, kyle anderson, our old colo tech
[2007-07-11T05:00:48+00:00]	<OrgulloKmoore>	oh, ok
[2007-07-11T05:00:54+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	_mary_kate_, Ugh. I've done ctrl-alt-del on the wrong box before.. then I started disabling it on all my systems.
[2007-07-11T05:01:47+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	I had a fun one on a Solaris 2.5.1 box once..
[2007-07-11T05:02:01+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	Someone had done something which wedged the console.. the box was up fine, however....
[2007-07-11T05:02:33+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	That night they tried to reboot it in a maint window to fix the console...
[2007-07-11T05:02:44+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	but it didn't reboot, so they left it for higher sysgods to worry about later.
[2007-07-11T05:03:19+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	I came in the next day, found the console wedged.. hopped on, and piped the output of 'reset' to the device... Tada unwedged!
[2007-07-11T05:04:13+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	Except the shutdown was still running, aparently blocked waiting on the wedged console that I unwedged. System dropped off at a pretty inopportune time.
[2007-07-11T05:04:54+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	The real fun came later.. the highest people in the org demanded an explination of the outage in extreme detail.
[2007-07-11T05:05:16+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	For some reason they had a hard time believing that I shouldn't be fired after "and then Greg typed reset ..."
[2007-07-11T05:05:24+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	;)
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[2007-07-11T05:05:34+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	heh :)
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[2007-07-11T05:09:03+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	and it's up.
[2007-07-11T05:09:45+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	Joy to the twincest kernel, 15 minutes old and already forking like mad.
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[2007-07-11T05:18:35+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	i should look at kexec one day, hemlock takes longer to POST than the kernel does to boot
[2007-07-11T05:19:36+00:00]	<gmaxwell>	There are a bunch of Opteron boards supported by LinuxBios... but I'd doubt there are many sunboxes among them. ;)
[2007-07-11T05:23:20+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	heh
[2007-07-11T05:25:55+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	the old boards (like zedler has) were actually oem'd.. but i think the newer ones are more custom
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[2007-07-11T06:49:17+00:00]	<Tangotango>	What's the equivalent of "more" or "less" in DOS?
[2007-07-11T06:49:23+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	more
[2007-07-11T06:49:35+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	or iirc, type/p
[2007-07-11T06:49:38+00:00]	<Tangotango>	I get "Bad command or file name" :(
[2007-07-11T06:50:09+00:00]	<Tangotango>	Nope, /p doesn't work either... I'm trying to get the command line help for winnt.exe
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[2007-07-11T07:15:34+00:00]	*** Neko-at-Kinmu thinks dos is far too old
[2007-07-11T07:17:55+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	hmm, more definitely worked in DOS
[2007-07-11T07:17:58+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	maybe it's not in NT's cmd.exe
[2007-07-11T07:19:36+00:00]	<Tangotango>	I tried it on Windows Me's DOS, maybe that's why :P
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[2007-07-11T07:30:18+00:00]	<valhallasw`dour>	Tangotango: me's dos is just dos7
[2007-07-11T07:30:25+00:00]	<valhallasw`dour>	that should have 'more'
[2007-07-11T07:38:52+00:00]	<Brownout>	uhhhm, this extension (http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1699) is available for sysops only, but there are ready made tools on TS, I find this rather strange...
[2007-07-11T07:39:28+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	whether or not normal users should be able to see deleted contribs is not really decided either way
[2007-07-11T07:39:32+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	esp. now we have oversight
[2007-07-11T07:40:18+00:00]	<Brownout>	so what's the rationale enabling this special page only to sysops?
[2007-07-11T07:40:25+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	caution probably
[2007-07-11T07:42:07+00:00]	<Brownout>	I agree, but when we have the same informations accessible from an easy TS form...
[2007-07-11T07:42:19+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	ask the author of the extension :)
[2007-07-11T07:43:45+00:00]	<Brownout>	my point (don't kill me) is that sometimes TS users have access to too much infos
[2007-07-11T07:45:10+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	Configuring network interfaces...if-up.d/mountnfs[ext]: lock /var/run/network/mountnfs exist, not mounting
[2007-07-11T07:45:10+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	if-up.d/mountnfs[ext]: lock /var/run/network/mountnfs exist, not mounting
[2007-07-11T07:45:10+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	if-up.d/mountnfs[zedler]: lock /var/run/network/mountnfs exist, not mounting
[2007-07-11T07:45:10+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	done.
[2007-07-11T07:45:13+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	what does that mean?
[2007-07-11T07:45:23+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	Brownout: no, i made the decision that having archive is not a problem
[2007-07-11T07:46:13+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	it is quite deliberate; if you think its wrong, that's a different issue
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[2007-07-11T07:47:37+00:00]	<Brownout>	this is very IMHO, obviously, but actually I think there's a good reason only sysops can have that kind of reports
[2007-07-11T07:48:06+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	i guess the foundation should comment
[2007-07-11T07:48:32+00:00]	<Brownout>	what about access to deleted revisions? AFAIR it was in discussion to allow that too
[2007-07-11T07:49:05+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	they don't exist yet, but it will be possible when they do
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[2007-07-11T08:17:14+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	https://wikitech.leuksman.com/view/Yarrow - can somebody fix it and put a category?
[2007-07-11T08:25:10+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	what's wrong with it?
[2007-07-11T08:25:28+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	"yarrow is the toolserver enwiki database server."
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[2007-07-11T08:29:16+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	changed
[2007-07-11T08:29:44+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	thanks
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[2007-07-11T09:39:25+00:00]	<Filnik>	Hello
[2007-07-11T09:40:26+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	Did anybode see Interion last days?
[2007-07-11T09:40:34+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	*Interiot
[2007-07-11T09:41:26+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	he hasn't been around in a while
[2007-07-11T09:44:30+00:00]	<Herbys_working>	is that why the edit count tool is not working?
[2007-07-11T09:44:37+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	dunno
[2007-07-11T09:44:40+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	use mine, it works :)
[2007-07-11T09:44:47+00:00]	<Herbys_working>	link?
[2007-07-11T09:45:00+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	tools.wikimedia.de/~river/cgi-bin/count_edits
[2007-07-11T09:45:40+00:00]	<Herbys_working>	thanks _mary_kate_ will go try it out in a mo
[2007-07-11T09:46:03+00:00]	<Herbys_working>	while I'm here the gunther admin activity is a dead tool - anyone know anything or got another?
[2007-07-11T09:47:25+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	_mary_kate_: yours doesn't support UTF-8 names
[2007-07-11T09:47:33+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	it used to. provide example
[2007-07-11T09:47:50+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	ru:User:ВасильевВВ
[2007-07-11T09:48:31+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	http://tools.wikimedia.de/~river/cgi-bin/count_edits?user=%D0%92%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%92%D0%92&dbname=ruwiki_p < looks fine to me
[2007-07-11T09:50:29+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	Thanks
[2007-07-11T09:50:53+00:00]	*** VasilievVV gonna ack admin to replace tools in MediaWiki:Sp-contributions-footer
[2007-07-11T09:51:03+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	*ack->ask
[2007-07-11T09:51:25+00:00]	<Herbys_working>	_mary_kate_ - tool may not be happy with FF - I have some stray html stuff
[2007-07-11T09:51:59+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	Herbys_working: looks okay in 2.0.0.4. could you be more specific?
[2007-07-11T09:52:00+00:00]	<Herbys_working>	also does not show admin activity?
[2007-07-11T09:52:35+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	ah, the JS stuff
[2007-07-11T09:52:41+00:00]	<para>	Herbys_working: gunther hasn't been around since 2006 ... what should be done with his tools?
[2007-07-11T09:53:04+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	para, which tools?
[2007-07-11T09:53:11+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	_mary_kate_: /cgi-bin/mkusers
[2007-07-11T09:53:11+00:00]	<Herbys_working>	para - the tools is useful for getting rid (!!) of inactive admins
[2007-07-11T09:53:16+00:00]	<para>	VasilievVV: admin activity and some others
[2007-07-11T09:53:17+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	yes, that is the JS thing
[2007-07-11T09:53:21+00:00]	<Herbys_working>	_mary_kate_ I'll mail you with the output?
[2007-07-11T09:53:28+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	Herbys_working: it's ok, i see the problem
[2007-07-11T09:53:39+00:00]	<Herbys_working>	_mary_kate_ using NoScript
[2007-07-11T09:53:49+00:00]	<Herbys_working>	but enabled on toolserver
[2007-07-11T09:54:08+00:00]	<para>	Herbys_working: yea, agreed. they've been made inactive now as the author is inactive. but what's the next step?
[2007-07-11T09:54:52+00:00]	<Herbys_working>	para - kinda of here to see if anyone could help - Siebrand suggested it to me
[2007-07-11T09:55:23+00:00]	<Herbys_working>	Can any admin access gunther's work?
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[2007-07-11T09:56:03+00:00]	<para>	so _mary_kate_, what's the status of tools "submitted" to the toolserver, are they for anyone to use and improve on, or are they copyrighted unless specifically gpl'd?
[2007-07-11T09:56:15+00:00]	*** Herbys_working thanks VasilievVV a lot!
[2007-07-11T09:56:42+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	para: GPL'd works are still copyrighted. we don't really enforce any particular license, although in theory your tools should probably be open source
[2007-07-11T09:57:26+00:00]	<para>	so it's a recommendation and not a requirement
[2007-07-11T09:57:35+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	Herbys_working: it's a wiki bot, but I can write PHP tool..
[2007-07-11T09:57:40+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	Herbys_working: better now?
[2007-07-11T09:57:55+00:00]	<para>	and tools by an inactive user are off limits then, unless they give permission
[2007-07-11T09:58:09+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	para: yes. which sucks a bit, maybe someone has a better solution
[2007-07-11T09:58:45+00:00]	<Herbys_working>	VasilievVV it would be useful to a number of wikis - I have a thing about inactive admins :-) and it hellps my arguments!
[2007-07-11T09:58:52+00:00]	<para>	some small print or something to agree to when applying for an account?
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[2007-07-11T09:59:01+00:00]	<Herbys_working>	_mary_kate_ trying now
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[2007-07-11T09:59:57+00:00]	<Herbys_working>	hey _mary_kate_ good and much quicker than interiot!
[2007-07-11T10:00:15+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	mine is the original edit counter, all others are inferior imitations :D
[2007-07-11T10:00:20+00:00]	<para>	All sources should be free. That doesn't mean that you have to publish your code if it isn't ready and looks terrible, but when you're ready and the tool works, you have to clean up the code and put it in your subversion-repository on hemlock.
[2007-07-11T10:00:22+00:00]	<Herbys_working>	admin playing would be good too tho :-)
[2007-07-11T10:00:32+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	para: yeah but in practice no-one cares
[2007-07-11T10:00:44+00:00]	<Herbys_working>	I always like "originals" :-)
[2007-07-11T10:01:23+00:00]	<Herbys_working>	I have a perverse joy in having more deletions than many folk have edits :-)
[2007-07-11T10:01:25+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	Herbys_working: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:VVVBot/M:AA#Administrators - last time I did such bot. (Coloring is made by Kalan)
[2007-07-11T10:01:44+00:00]	*** Herbys_working 's gone test!
[2007-07-11T10:01:51+00:00]	<Herbys_working>	testing then!
[2007-07-11T10:02:58+00:00]	<Herbys_working>	VasilievVV - options to get other wiki's?
[2007-07-11T10:03:45+00:00]	<Herbys_working>	+maybe why I am not there!!
[2007-07-11T10:04:02+00:00]	*** Herbys_working feels unloved!
[2007-07-11T10:08:21+00:00]	<para>	oh, Bryan was working on rewriting the admin activity tool yesterday, too
[2007-07-11T10:09:11+00:00]	<Herbys_working>	VasilievVV - any idea why I'm not on the list? (Herbythyme)
[2007-07-11T10:09:39+00:00]	<Herbys_working>	para - I've left a message on Bryan's commons page
[2007-07-11T10:10:49+00:00]	<para>	wonder if anyone's tried to contact gunther? :)
[2007-07-11T10:14:58+00:00]	<Herbys_working>	VasilievVV - looks like May onward admins are missing from your list?
[2007-07-11T10:15:09+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	Herbys_working: when did you become admin?
[2007-07-11T10:15:13+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	it says at the top that it was last updated in april
[2007-07-11T10:15:44+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	Yeah. It because that bot was awful AWB plugin
[2007-07-11T10:16:05+00:00]	<Herbys_working>	ok - one of these days I will read 1st and post later....
[2007-07-11T10:16:42+00:00]	<Herbys_working>	However as I nebie here - thanks for the kind reception, it's appreciated
[2007-07-11T10:18:47+00:00]	<para>	maybe the inactivity 403 could be made into an email sending contact form instead? not many people are ready to hunt for the wikiname of an inactive toolserver user
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[2007-07-11T10:21:04+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	"Dieser Benutzer ist bis auf weiteres inaktiv." from his userpage
[2007-07-11T10:23:49+00:00]	<para>	the username and wikiname isn't always the same, and it might be hard to find the right wiki. The account request list is the only link, and tool users might not even know of its existence
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[2007-07-11T10:25:44+00:00]	<rhododendron>	hello
[2007-07-11T10:27:44+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	hmm, people are complaining that "editcountitis" should be "editcountotis"
[2007-07-11T10:27:53+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	fucking nerds :P
[2007-07-11T10:30:43+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	para: seehttp://tools.wikimedia.de/~leon/toolserver/
[2007-07-11T10:32:52+00:00]	<para>	linked on the meta toolserver page, good good
[2007-07-11T10:50:01+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	_mary_kate_: why does your tool writes "Unknown namespace 100"?
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[2007-07-11T10:50:16+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	because it doesn't know what the name of that namespace is
[2007-07-11T10:50:43+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	In Wikipedia it usually is portal namespace
[2007-07-11T10:50:52+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	often, yes
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[2007-07-11T10:51:38+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	Maybe read it from toolserver.namespace?
[2007-07-11T10:52:00+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	maybe later, i don't feel like working on it right now
[2007-07-11T10:59:03+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	para: you can also mail username@ts.wikimedia.org
[2007-07-11T11:01:06+00:00]	<para>	updated meta
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[2007-07-11T11:28:29+00:00]	<ValentinValls>	hello
[2007-07-11T11:29:38+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	hi
[2007-07-11T11:30:03+00:00]	<ValentinValls>	for a few days, i dont find de database frwiki_p ?
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[2007-07-11T11:30:18+00:00]	<ValentinValls>	is something move ?
[2007-07-11T11:30:39+00:00]	<BrokenArrow>	is there a way to have the tstoc back?
[2007-07-11T11:31:13+00:00]	<ValentinValls>	hello _mary_kate_, hello BrokenArrow :)
[2007-07-11T11:31:32+00:00]	<BrokenArrow>	hi
[2007-07-11T11:37:17+00:00]	<ValentinValls>	!replag
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[2007-07-11T13:04:05+00:00]	<Adambro>	What would be the process for getting an account on the toolserver?
[2007-07-11T13:05:13+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	[[m:Toolserver/New_accounts]]
[2007-07-11T13:05:32+00:00]	<Adambro>	ta
[2007-07-11T13:06:24+00:00]	<Adambro>	how long will that process take?
[2007-07-11T13:06:39+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	if you hurry it up
[2007-07-11T13:06:47+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	you might get an account by Thursday
[2007-07-11T13:06:50+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	(tomorrow)
[2007-07-11T13:07:00+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	if not... then there's not set time
[2007-07-11T13:07:02+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	:)
[2007-07-11T13:07:09+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	it's probably not gonna be too long
[2007-07-11T13:07:17+00:00]	<Adambro>	okay, pretty straightforward task I'm wanting to do
[2007-07-11T13:16:47+00:00]	<Adambro>	thanks for your advice Cbrown1023, I've outlined my request now and hope that is satisfactory http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Toolserver%2FNew_accounts&diff=625905&oldid=624654
[2007-07-11T13:18:04+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	:-D no problem :)
[2007-07-11T13:22:14+00:00]	<_mary_kate_>	why dont you just work with magnus to add ogg support?
[2007-07-11T13:22:57+00:00]	<Adambro>	I wasn't wanting to create extra work for him
[2007-07-11T13:24:11+00:00]	<para>	you could just edit his sources locally and then propose a nice patch
[2007-07-11T13:24:43+00:00]	<Adambro>	ahh yes, perhaps I should look at doing that
[2007-07-11T13:27:38+00:00]	<Adambro>	hmm, actually, it might be working now, well, to a point at least
[2007-07-11T13:28:32+00:00]	<Adambro>	strange, i can probably make do with how it is actually
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[2007-07-11T14:43:01+00:00]	<bainer>	hello, how does one go about getting an account on the toolserver?
[2007-07-11T14:44:51+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	[[m:Toolserver/New accounts]]
[2007-07-11T14:45:02+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	_mary_kate_: we need a bot for this :-P
[2007-07-11T14:45:31+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	(btw, that link was for bainer) :)
[2007-07-11T14:45:40+00:00]	<bainer>	cheers
[2007-07-11T14:45:54+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	np :)
[2007-07-11T14:50:46+00:00]	*** VasilievVV has changed the topic to: Wikimedia Toolserver :: Status: hemlock - up; Zedler - up; yarrow - up :: New accounts:[[m:Toolserver/New accounts]] :: Users: [[m:Toolserver/For_users]] :: Logs: /mnt/aux0/archiv/irc.log.txt or http://tools.wikimedia.de/~robert/irc.log.html :: Don't ask to ask, just ask :: Pastebin: http://tools.wikimedia.de/~swhitton/pastebin
[2007-07-11T14:51:01+00:00]	*** VasilievVV has changed the topic to: Wikimedia Toolserver :: Status: hemlock - up; Zedler - up; yarrow - up :: New accounts: [[m:Toolserver/New accounts]] :: Users: [[m:Toolserver/For_users]] :: Logs: /mnt/aux0/archiv/irc.log.txt or http://tools.wikimedia.de/~robert/irc.log.html :: Don't ask to ask, just ask :: Pastebin: http://tools.wikimedia.de/~swhitton/pastebin
[2007-07-11T14:51:08+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	Now it's OK
[2007-07-11T14:53:06+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	heh
[2007-07-11T14:53:17+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	they're still gonna ask
[2007-07-11T14:53:20+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	and you know it :-P
[2007-07-11T14:53:36+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	I know
[2007-07-11T14:54:02+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	but I appreciated your effort :)
[2007-07-11T14:54:24+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	I can do a bot, just say a pattern for such requests :)
[2007-07-11T14:54:50+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	heh, yeah
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[2007-07-11T15:00:14+00:00]	<bainer>	so, out of interest, what are my chances of being approved: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Toolserver/New_accounts#User:Thebainer
[2007-07-11T15:00:44+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	:-/
[2007-07-11T15:00:46+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	probably
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[2007-07-11T15:14:54+00:00]	<White_Cat>	hmm
[2007-07-11T15:15:02+00:00]	<White_Cat>	which images are reccomended for our use
[2007-07-11T15:15:05+00:00]	<White_Cat>	svgs or pngs?
[2007-07-11T15:15:14+00:00]	<White_Cat>	on license templates
[2007-07-11T15:16:29+00:00]	<Luxo>	svg is mostly better...
[2007-07-11T15:17:00+00:00]	<Dodek>	svg can be easily converted to png, while it's not so easy to make a svg from a png
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[2007-07-11T15:30:51+00:00]	<White_Cat>	Luxo / Dodek performancewise
[2007-07-11T15:31:08+00:00]	<White_Cat>	issue was brought up on http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators/Requests_and_votes/WOPR
[2007-07-11T15:31:39+00:00]	<Luxo>	png. svg, MW generate a png...
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[2007-07-11T15:42:22+00:00]	<White_Cat>	which png would be more optimised?
[2007-07-11T15:42:39+00:00]	<White_Cat>	assume they are used on 1,500,000+ pages so even a minor difference matters
[2007-07-11T15:43:12+00:00]	<bainer>	depends what software was used to create the PNG
[2007-07-11T15:43:25+00:00]	<White_Cat>	mediawiki of course :)
[2007-07-11T15:43:28+00:00]	<White_Cat>	commons license templates
[2007-07-11T15:44:08+00:00]	<bainer>	I thought you meant a user-uploaded PNG versus a PNG converted from an SVG by MW
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[2007-07-11T15:45:52+00:00]	<White_Cat>	yes
[2007-07-11T15:45:56+00:00]	<White_Cat>	thats what I ment
[2007-07-11T15:46:03+00:00]	<White_Cat>	oh
[2007-07-11T15:46:07+00:00]	<White_Cat>	I misuderstood you :D
[2007-07-11T15:46:15+00:00]	<White_Cat>	consider the ones we have on commons
[2007-07-11T15:46:20+00:00]	<White_Cat>	gfdl logo for example
[2007-07-11T15:46:46+00:00]	<White_Cat>	http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Heckert_GNU_white.svg vs http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Heckert_GNU_white.png
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[2007-07-11T15:48:12+00:00]	<bainer>	well, you can test it yourself by looking at the size of the pictures.
[2007-07-11T15:48:13+00:00]	<bainer>	the full size of the PNG version is 40kb
[2007-07-11T15:48:57+00:00]	<bainer>	whereas the 480px thumbnail that I see on the image description page is 91kb
[2007-07-11T15:49:36+00:00]	<bainer>	the comparable size thumbnail of the SVG version that I see is 63kb
[2007-07-11T15:50:23+00:00]	<bainer>	so in this case, the best for size is the SVG, followed by the PNG at native resolution, followed by the PNG thumbnail of the SVG, followed by the thumbnail of the PNG
[2007-07-11T15:52:56+00:00]	<White_Cat>	thanks
[2007-07-11T15:53:32+00:00]	<bainer>	I don't know if that's true for every case. but I suspect that most of the time you're better off with an SVG
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[2007-07-11T16:31:29+00:00]	<White_Cat_Zzz>	bainer
[2007-07-11T16:31:30+00:00]	<White_Cat_Zzz>	http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Heckert_GNU_white.svg
[2007-07-11T16:31:41+00:00]	<White_Cat_Zzz>	can you tell me on how many pages that image is used on commons alone
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[2007-07-11T16:33:35+00:00]	<bainer>	White_Cat: not without counting the file links. CheckUsage only goes up to 100
[2007-07-11T16:34:16+00:00]	<White_Cat>	thats fine
[2007-07-11T16:34:18+00:00]	<bainer>	I would guess ~470
[2007-07-11T16:34:24+00:00]	<White_Cat>	I see
[2007-07-11T16:34:31+00:00]	<bainer>	just under 16 pages at about 30 lines per page
[2007-07-11T16:34:33+00:00]	<White_Cat>	http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators/Requests_and_votes/WOPR#Comments
[2007-07-11T16:34:59+00:00]	<White_Cat>	I am trying to use that statistic as a yummy means of self experssion
[2007-07-11T16:35:52+00:00]	<White_Cat>	it is a performance issue :)
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[2007-07-11T16:36:28+00:00]	<bainer>	keep in mind that that's all due to [[commons:Template:GFDL]].
[2007-07-11T16:37:24+00:00]	<White_Cat>	yes
[2007-07-11T16:37:39+00:00]	<White_Cat>	you can tell me the number of pages linking to that
[2007-07-11T16:37:54+00:00]	<White_Cat>	I want to orphan the gfdl png
[2007-07-11T16:38:14+00:00]	<White_Cat>	bainer your input there would be most appriciated
[2007-07-11T16:39:40+00:00]	<bainer>	I would suggest that if you're just going to do categorisation you avoid discussing PNG/SVG :)
[2007-07-11T16:41:28+00:00]	<Bryan>	I don't know which one is more dangerous
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[2007-07-11T16:42:22+00:00]	<Bryan>	even newimage-patrol/deleting-copyvios is less dangerous than both categorization and image superseeding
[2007-07-11T16:48:45+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	Who needs admins activity tool?
[2007-07-11T16:48:46+00:00]	<VasilievVV>	http://tools.wikimedia.de/~vvv/adminstats.php
[2007-07-11T16:49:19+00:00]	<White_Cat>	bainer well
[2007-07-11T16:49:24+00:00]	<White_Cat>	I do want to do both
[2007-07-11T16:49:32+00:00]	<White_Cat>	since both are necesary and useful
[2007-07-11T16:50:13+00:00]	<Bryan>	I believe I created something on http://tools.wikimedia.de/~bryan/commons_admins.php
[2007-07-11T16:50:20+00:00]	<Bryan>	though that is only commons, currently
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[2007-07-11T16:51:48+00:00]	<bainer>	White_Cat: well, I would think that the number of image-related edits the bot will be making to protected templates will be quite small, and something that could easily be done by hand. same for adding/removing categories to protected templates
[2007-07-11T16:52:04+00:00]	<bainer>	I support changing to SVGs of course
[2007-07-11T16:52:17+00:00]	<White_Cat>	there are a lot of protected images on commons
[2007-07-11T16:52:23+00:00]	<White_Cat>	not just templates
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[2007-07-11T17:01:32+00:00]	<vishwin60>	I would also rather support changing to SVGs, but it's not that worth it
[2007-07-11T17:01:50+00:00]	<vishwin60>	if it ain't broke, don't fix it
[2007-07-11T17:01:53+00:00]	<White_Cat>	vishwin60 well
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[2007-07-11T17:02:08+00:00]	<White_Cat>	for 100,000 images
[2007-07-11T17:02:21+00:00]	<White_Cat>	thats a 231 MB difference
[2007-07-11T17:02:36+00:00]	<vishwin60>	but we should not be worrying about server space and such
[2007-07-11T17:02:36+00:00]	<White_Cat>	provided images are used once and only once
[2007-07-11T17:02:45+00:00]	<White_Cat>	vishwin60 it isnt server space
[2007-07-11T17:02:51+00:00]	<White_Cat>	its bandwidth
[2007-07-11T17:02:59+00:00]	<White_Cat>	and we should worry about those if it is dire
[2007-07-11T17:03:02+00:00]	<vishwin60>	we shouldn't be worrying about bandwidth
[2007-07-11T17:03:05+00:00]	<vishwin60>	either
[2007-07-11T17:03:11+00:00]	<White_Cat>	a single image is used in that many pages
[2007-07-11T17:03:25+00:00]	<White_Cat>	license images are used in over 2 million pages
[2007-07-11T17:03:28+00:00]	<vishwin60>	it's still way too trivial to even warrant this
[2007-07-11T17:03:41+00:00]	<White_Cat>	thats your opinion of course
[2007-07-11T17:03:44+00:00]	<vishwin60>	although I'd rather use SVG
[2007-07-11T17:03:45+00:00]	<White_Cat>	as for recategorization
[2007-07-11T17:04:23+00:00]	<White_Cat>	it is really annoying to hunt for them
[2007-07-11T17:04:34+00:00]	<White_Cat>	I will have to work on them one by one
[2007-07-11T17:04:47+00:00]	<White_Cat>	and I rather not
[2007-07-11T17:04:57+00:00]	<White_Cat>	that defeats the purpose of the bot
[2007-07-11T17:05:13+00:00]	<vishwin60>	if you are warranting an admin status for your bot for mainly this trivial task, then withdraw it now
[2007-07-11T17:05:39+00:00]	<White_Cat>	I dont take orders
[2007-07-11T17:05:51+00:00]	<vishwin60>	I know, that's your call
[2007-07-11T17:05:52+00:00]	<White_Cat>	bots always preform trivial tasks
[2007-07-11T17:06:05+00:00]	<White_Cat>	they arent allowed to preform complicated tasks
[2007-07-11T17:06:08+00:00]	<vishwin60>	this, however, is too trivial
[2007-07-11T17:06:15+00:00]	<White_Cat>	thats your opinion
[2007-07-11T17:06:25+00:00]	<White_Cat>	I strongly suggest you adjust your tone
[2007-07-11T17:06:40+00:00]	<White_Cat>	dont ever demand things :)
[2007-07-11T17:06:45+00:00]	<vishwin60>	hmm
[2007-07-11T17:06:59+00:00]	<White_Cat>	I know that wasnt your intention :)
[2007-07-11T17:07:07+00:00]	<vishwin60>	yeah
[2007-07-11T17:07:26+00:00]	<vishwin60>	just strongly opposed to something like this, unless it was CommonsDelinkerHelper
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[2007-07-11T17:07:40+00:00]	<vishwin60>	now we're having another netsplit?!
[2007-07-11T17:07:43+00:00]	<White_Cat>	this is like the commonsdelikerhelper
[2007-07-11T17:07:56+00:00]	<White_Cat>	it delinks categories and not images
[2007-07-11T17:08:01+00:00]	<White_Cat>	same type of edits
[2007-07-11T17:08:05+00:00]	<White_Cat>	infact same block of code
[2007-07-11T17:08:05+00:00]	<Cbrown1023>	vishwin60: I think that was a joke
[2007-07-11T17:08:06+00:00]	<vishwin60>	CommonsDelinkerHelper actually does something *useful*
[2007-07-11T17:08:17+00:00]	<White_Cat>	recategorization is useful
[2007-07-11T17:08:26+00:00]	<vishwin60>	that's another thin
[2007-07-11T17:08:27+00:00]	<vishwin60>	g
[2007-07-11T17:08:38+00:00]	<White_Cat>	this bot will be working on categories
[2007-07-11T17:08:41+00:00]	<White_Cat>	primarily
[2007-07-11T17:08:50+00:00]	<vishwin60>	if it's categories, then the admin isn't needed
[2007-07-11T17:08:54+00:00]	<White_Cat>	it is
[2007-07-11T17:08:57+00:00]	<White_Cat>	pages are protected
[2007-07-11T17:09:04+00:00]	<White_Cat>	the bot cant edit
[2007-07-11T17:09:24+00:00]	<White_Cat>	give me a mediawiki account that can edit protected pages and I'd be fine with it
[2007-07-11T17:09:45+00:00]	<White_Cat>	right now only admins can preform that
[2007-07-11T17:09:54+00:00]	<White_Cat>	which I happen to be one on commons
[2007-07-11T17:10:21+00:00]	<White_Cat>	I can run the bot on my account just as well... I want to seperate it for transparancy
[2007-07-11T17:10:42+00:00]	<vishwin60>	how many protected cats are there anyway?
[2007-07-11T17:11:02+00:00]	<White_Cat>	there are lots of protected images
[2007-07-11T17:11:21+00:00]	<vishwin60>	oh I thought you meant cats
[2007-07-11T17:11:23+00:00]	<White_Cat>	every image on any main page on any wiki is often protected on commons
[2007-07-11T17:11:35+00:00]	<White_Cat>	vishwin60 recategorization requires the editing of image description pages :)
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